Can't blame him if he does. He has been treated abysmally IMO, losing the hooking spot to a guy who is wholly unsuited to the role ( unless from the bench for a shorter duration ) .....and epitomised by spending a whole match uselessly and inexcusably on a bench.

From what I've seen of McShane, Burrow is a better starting option at the moment, that's not me saying Burrow should be the starter. The hooking position is I believe our weak spot.

As for McShane losing the hooking spot, it was never is to lose as he's yet to earn it.

Hope I proved wrong about McShane and he turns out to be Star performer for Leeds.

I myself am surprised he hasn't been given the opportunity to solidify a starting role from round one but I am sure a long hard season will see him get his chances.......he just has to ensure he takes them.

I guess Burrow has looked better in pre/early season training sessions in McDermotts eyes

If he does, I'll willingly hold the door open for him so it doesn't hit him on the way out.

Not fair ... I DO like some of the fancy coloured boots that the players seem to wear these days...

Think its more to do with the fact that Hood could be in front of Mcshane, which in pre-season I would also agree.

That might be ... But then that's surely even more reason to give the lad a starting spot ....at least until Hood is fit again. Why select him to do nothing but sit on a bench for 80 minutes ?

Hood is fit again and was on standby for the squad at wigan

Then this nonsense of using Burrow as a starting hooker definitely has to stop.

Perhaps, unbeknown to us mere mortals who think we're a coach, the coach was doing it for a reason and decided that because the forwards were getting beaten, there was no point risking some of our youngsters that may prove pivotal the following week? Or maybe there's a conspiracy.....

Keep the faith eh !

So much better to risk non pivotal players like Burrow then, by keeping them on for the full 80 ?

I personaly belief that Mc didn't think Mcshane quiet ready for Manly and therefore elected to run with Burrow until after WCC giving him time to prepare. If it comes off all well and good, not lost a lot if it doesn't. Personaly think its a waste of talent but I also thought the coach was not up to it so what do I know.Mc Shane will get his chance and for me is still well in front of Hood.

McShane didn't get on at Wigan because Smith got injured and we ran out of substitutions under the new rules. True story, our coach said so.

We have only played 2 games! I am sure McShane has a lot more patience than you appear to have and will take his opportunity when it comes. I guess he also he has been kept quite busy with his work and doesn't have the same spare time as you to dwell on such things. How many threads have you posted on this same selection topic now?

Are you stalking me now ?

If an employee with a different skills set to mine in a different role, but yet was still favoured and sent on a lucrative rewarding job I was contracted to do with the appropriate labelled title, no I wouldn't have the patience. to hang around.

Even if that skill set, while slightly different, was still offering away to fulfill the role using a different methodology, you were still being paid so the "lucrative" part was irrelevant and you were aware that the role would need filling on an ongoing basis for several years, during which time you were satisfied that you would be considered for it, and the time so far had been, in fact, a very tiny percentage of the length of your tenure?

Up to you I suppose.

Maybe that or maybe some other reason. Whatever the reason it simply isn't good enough.

For years now we've had to put up with the likes of Tony Smith, Brian McLennan and now McDermott making atrocious decisions, selecting the wrong players in the wrong positions, demoralising the players and generally presiding over the destruction of the club.

It's not as if any of them have found a winning formula is it.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. Nantwich is only worried because in his eyes McShane will be past his prime by the end of the year and we should get the best out of him him before he has to make way for someone a bit younger.

Certainly not



Interesting analogy Nantwich. But perhaps a more realistic one would be the following:

You (as you have introduced yourself into the senario) as a largely unproven junior employee with limited senior experience as yet, who has been employed by the market leading company as an assistant distribution manager. The previous excellent senior distribution manager has moved abroad for personal reasons leaving a vacancy.

The company has decided not to advertise the post externally but give the opportunity to yourself and a promising junior to compete and prove you can step up to the plate and become the senior distribution manager on merit. To encourage you further the company has printed you a new business card with the title of distribution manager but on the understanding that this does not guarantee that the job is yours full time just yet.

However there is a big important and previously arranged negotiation to undertake and the company has decided to ask one of its most experienced and senior excecutives from another department, but with good experience of distribution management, to head up this forthcoming deal.

If your reaction to this situation is to head for the door then I would suggest you are not the sort of character that this company is looking for. If your reaction is to buckle down and prove to the boss that he has to give you the job on merit then you are demonstrating that you have the character to become successfull in your future career.

Maybe he'd prefer him to be moved to second-row when JJB goes to stand-off.

Hopefully he'll get a chance at Leeds eventually if not then the club have treated the player terribly, He was in very good form last year after a consistent run of games the Castleford game was a particular stand out performance IMO.

So why give him the number 9 shirt?

It's a squad number these days, not a positional number.