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was reading their ashes misery on the smh site and saw this..
www.smh.com.au/photogallery/rugb ... 18nu9.html
not a bad team, nice to see Moz get on the bench, speaking of which i saw Gaz Ellis at the recently revamped BP garage in headingley earlier.
how would your SL team of the decade line up?
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was reading their ashes misery on the smh site and saw this..
www.smh.com.au/photogallery/rugb ... 18nu9.html
not a bad team, nice to see Moz get on the bench, speaking of which i saw Gaz Ellis at the recently revamped BP garage in headingley earlier.
how would your SL team of the decade line up?
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| Harris
Big lez
Jamie Lyon
Senior
Pryce
Trent Barrett
Shaun long
Moz
Cunningham
Graham
Peacock
Andy farrel
Sculthorpe
McGuire
Burgess
Ferner
Big joe Vagana
Coach: Tony Smith
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| Does SBW deserve his place in that team?
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| Quote ="flipper"Does SBW deserve his place in that team?'"
Don't think he played long enough to be considered imo.
I'd replace him with Thaiday tbh.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Harris
Big lez
Jamie Lyon
Senior
Pryce
Trent Barrett
Shaun long
Moz
Cunningham
Graham
Peacock
Andy farrel
Sculthorpe
McGuire
Burgess
Ferner
Big joe Vagana
Coach: Tony Smith'"
That line up has stacks of quality mate but when you just consider the last 10 years Harris would'nt get in imo and i'd have Radlinski at FB.
I'd also have Richards instead of Pryce on the wing.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"That line up has stacks of quality mate but when you just consider the last 10 years Harris would'nt get in imo and i'd have Radlinski at FB.
I'd also have Richards instead of Pryce on the wing.'"
I'd agree with you on Radlinski for FB. But I could undertand the poster getting Harris in, as you would have to say he should be in somewhere. But then you forget how time flies, and decade been after 2000, would probably mean you are right on discluding.
Interesting though on your SBW comment above saying not long enougth to warrant been picked, but you didn't pick up on the post about Burgess for Super League team. I would say Burgess surely didn't do enough in Super League to warrant been in the team of the decade. By contrast Ellis did though, and should have been in there.
The other poster is also right on Pryce also. Been one of the top players of the decade in the comp, so must be in somewhere.
Surely Fielden should be in any team though. He was clearly the best prop in Super League for a number of years before he went to Wigan.
It's quite a tough team to pick when you think about. Some very worthy players would miss out simply because of quality that a lot fans want to deride our competition for.
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| It would very much depend on whether you mean consistent performances over the whole decade (much harder to come by!), or had a stand out season or two during the decade.
I'd have to go for...
Radlinski
Richards
Senior
Lyon
Vainikolo
Harris
McGuire
Morley
Cunningham
Fielden
Peacock
Farrell (vc)
Sinfield (c)
Bench-
Sculthorpe
Graham
Long
Joynt
Also in the squad but missing out on game day (No particular order);
Wellens
Barrett
Briers
Ellis
Burgess (Sam)
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I'd agree with you on Radlinski for FB. But I could undertand the poster getting Harris in, as you would have to say he should be in somewhere. But then you forget how time flies, and decade been after 2000, would probably mean you are right on discluding.
Interesting though on your SBW comment above saying not long enougth to warrant been picked, but you didn't pick up on the post about Burgess for Super League team. I would say Burgess surely didn't do enough in Super League to warrant been in the team of the decade. By contrast Ellis did though, and should have been in there.
The other poster is also right on Pryce also. Been one of the top players of the decade in the comp, so must be in somewhere.
Surely Fielden should be in any team though. He was clearly the best prop in Super League for a number of years before he went to Wigan.
It's quite a tough team to pick when you think about. Some very worthy players would miss out simply because of quality that a lot fans want to deride our competition for.'"
Good call re-Burgess and Ellis my point re-Pryce was more about the wing position and imo Richards wins hands down.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"By contrast Ellis did though, and should have been in there.'"
I disagree. Not in a massively bad way, and I do think it is a very valid point, I would just slightly disagree and I think that it's Ellis' success since leaving SL that clouds the memory of how good he was in SL. Don't get me wrong, he is at this present moment in time one of (if not THE) best Second Rower in the game. But I really don't think prior to him leaving Leeds he would've been mentioned in the same pack as Farrell, Sculthorpe, Peacock & Morley. NOW he would. Totally agree. But I just think it's only because you know that he's become the player he has.
Imagine when he left Leeds that he fell of the face of the planet, and nobody ever heard of him again, he would've been remembered as a good player, but not enough to make it into a "Team of the decade". Not at that point.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I disagree. Not in a massively bad way, and I do think it is a very valid point, I would just slightly disagree and I think that it's Ellis' success since leaving SL that clouds the memory of how good he was in SL. Don't get me wrong, he is at this present moment in time one of (if not THE) best Second Rower in the game. But I really don't think prior to him leaving Leeds he would've been mentioned in the same pack as Farrell, Sculthorpe, Peacock & Morley. NOW he would. Totally agree. But I just think it's only because you know that he's become the player he has.
Imagine when he left Leeds that he fell of the face of the planet, and nobody ever heard of him again, he would've been remembered as a good player, but not enough to make it into a "Team of the decade". Not at that point.'"
I dissagree, Ellis was a great player when he left Leeds. He might well have added something else to his game since been in the NRL, but he immediately got Player of the year in his =#FF0000first year there, which says a lot about how good he was when leaving Leeds.
For me, Ellis would be ahead of Furner in the squad when judging their respective Super League careers only.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I dissagree, Ellis was a great player when he left Leeds. He might well have added something else to his game since been in the NRL, but he immediately got Player of the year in his =#FF0000first year there, which says a lot about how good he was when leaving Leeds.
For me, Ellis would be ahead of Furner in the squad when judging their respective Super League careers only.'"
Yeah fair point. I totally take that on board.
For me, if he were to make it onto the team sheet, it would have to be on the bench though. He wouldn't start over Peacock, Morley, Fielden (in prime), Sculthorpe, Farrell. IMO.
Again, he would NOW. But "Super League Ellis" wouldn't start over any of those. (IMO)
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| People always forget how good Lam was in his time at Wigan, he was robbed of MOS by Sculthorpes second awarding of it.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Yeah fair point. I totally take that on board.
For me, if he were to make it onto the team sheet, it would have to be on the bench though. He wouldn't start over Peacock, Morley, Fielden (in prime), Sculthorpe, Farrell. IMO.
Again, he would NOW. But "Super League Ellis" wouldn't start over any of those. (IMO)'"
I think it highlights more that we have had real quality players in our comp, and sometimes that is not appreciated because of all the mythical @rse licking to the Aussie Comp.
One of the best players I have seen in the Super League era, and he only played for one season (I think) was David Fairleigh at Saints. I thought the guy was awsome, and on quality alone would always be one of my first choices for best teams. But again he only did one year.
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| So the revised team
Radlinshki
Big lez
Jamie Lyon
Senior
Richards
Trent Barrett
Shaun long
Moz
Cunningham
Graham
Peacock
Andy farrel
Sculthorpe
McGuire
Pryce
Ellis
Fielden
Coach: Tony Smith
How's that?
I've taken on board what people have said but Im not sure about Richards(a few good seasons and one very good season) surly sl must have had a better winger than Richards? Carney? And it seems Fielden has garbage as much as he has been quality.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Coach: Tony Smith
How's that?'"
Like him or loathe him but I think Noble has to be the coach of the last decade in Super League. His record more than stacks up to any.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Like him or loathe him but I think Noble has to be the coach of the last decade in Super League. His record more than stacks up to any.'"
I don't want that team playing 5 drives and a kick!
His rugby league is shocking to watch. Since super league quality has spread out noble has faded away to the point where nobody wants him in sl. Where as ts has got better and turned another also ran into a top team.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"His rugby league is shocking to watch. Since super league quality has spread out noble has faded away to the point where nobody wants him in sl. Where as ts has got better and turned another also ran into a top team.'"
I am not so sure what Noble achieved last year was fading. He took a bunch of nobodies with a near whole team from scratch to the play offs. At Wigan too, he took a near relegation fodder side and built it back up laying the foundations for what the new coach achieved this year. He certainly made some daft and baffling decisions, and me personally I don't like the guy, but his record can not be ignored.
What he did at Bradford was a big achievement.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am not so sure what Noble achieved last year was fading. He took a bunch of nobodies with a near whole team from scratch to the play offs. At Wigan too, he took a near relegation fodder side and built it back up laying the foundations for what the new coach achieved this year. He certainly made some daft and baffling decisions, and me personally I don't like the guy, but his record can not be ignored.
What he did at Bradford was a big achievement.'"
5 drives and kick for an all star team? No thanks.
Since the comp has evened up noble has stopped winning trophies. It's easier to win lots of silver when you have the best players.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"5 drives and kick for an all star team? No thanks.
Since the comp has evened up noble has stopped winning trophies. It's easier to win lots of silver when you have the best players.'"
The first point accepted.
The scond point could quite easily be attributed to Tony Smith also. Only won with best players.
Remember Noble has been at a poorly run Wigan club and a team with no infrastructure at the Crusaders, over the last few years. Any coach would have struggled to improve on what he did do at those clubs.
It's completely accepted that as soon as he went Wigan won, and probably right to say they wouldn't have with him, but he still laid the foundations for that to happen, and completely changed around things at Wigan.
Far be it for me to defend Noble, because I dislike him, and I agree his rugby his boring. But I still think credit where credit is due for his achievements.
If Smith continues going forward with Wire like winning a GF with them, then it would only be right to start declaring him for coach of team of decade. And in anyway in four years time he would quite rightly have that title then.
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| i'd go with
radlinski
vainakolo
lyon
hape
albert
harris
lam
peacock
lowes
morley
ellis
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sinfield
barrie mac
vangana (joe)
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"So the revised team
Radlinshki
Big lez
Jamie Lyon
Senior
Richards
Trent Barrett
Shaun long
Moz
Cunningham
Graham
Peacock
Andy farrel
Sculthorpe
McGuire
Pryce
Ellis
Fielden
Coach: Tony Smith
How's that?
I've taken on board what people have said but Im not sure about Richards(a few good seasons and one very good season) surly sl must have had a better winger than Richards? Carney? And it seems Fielden has garbage as much as he has been quality.'"
Lose Pryce, move Graham to bench, Scully in SR and Sinfield at Loose.
You can't possibly have a "Team of the Past 10 years" and not include Sinfield.
4 Grand Finals
2 League Leaders Shields
2 World Club Challenges
Harry Sunderland Trophy
Since 2003 he's never been outside the top 4 Goal Kickers.
SL Dream Team in '05, '06, '08 & '09.
International Loose Forward of '09
I know Scully was a good but he can go at SR. Sinfield has to be in that squad.
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| Lancival Todd n'all don't forget.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Lancival Todd n'all don't forget.'"
Yep!! I always forget that because we lost. But true enough! Lance Todd too!
For me;
Radlinski (Nailed On)
Vainikolo (Nailed On)
Senior(Nailed On)
Lyon (Nailed On)
Richards (Debatable)
Half Backs are debatable from;
Long
McGuire
Harris
Paul
Briers
Barrett
Pryce
Morely (Nailed On)
Cunningham (Nailed On)
Peacock (Nailed On)
Farrell (Nailed On)
Sculthorpe (Nailed On)
Sinfield (Nailed On)
Bench-
Graham (Nailed On)
The other 3 bench spots can be debated at will with many suitable candidates.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Vainikolo (Nailed On)
Senior(Nailed On)
Lyon (Nailed On)
Richards (Debatable)'"
In all fairness, you say Lyon nailed on. What did he do 2 years here?
You also say Vainikolo nailed on. Don't dissagree. But I would argue Hape had a very very big influence on Vainikolo, and probably could claim just as much credit to that "nailed on" spot as Lyon.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"In all fairness, you say Lyon nailed on. What did he do 2 years here?
You also say Vainikolo nailed on. Don't dissagree. But I would argue Hape had a very very big influence on Vainikolo, and probably could claim just as much credit to that "nailed on" spot as Lyon.'"
that's probably why i put hape in just ahead of senior. i guess it's upto the poster's discression who gets in and who doesn't
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