i was at the match last night and i didnt see what happened at the end of the match when mags got injured, i was too busy watching the ref and what was happening with richards and donald. i watched the incident back on telly today and sky seem to stop the playback as a player runs across field and lifts his foot. you can clearly see danny lift his hands up as though he is saying no dont, but not seeing what happened last night and not seeing anything on sky i was just woundering if anyone did actually see what happened?

Whoever this is, its very good.

he injured himself stretching out to grab carmont. he was rolling around in agony before anyone got to him. i was right in front of where it happened, riddell came over to him and basically stood over him giving him a mouthfull, and that was it. as a wigan fan i have to say that anyone in maguire's position would have done the same it is part and parcel of professional sport. unfortunately for him it has cost him dear, and i can't believe the hatred over the last 24 hours wishing the lad's career is over etc, it was a great game that could have gone either way, just wish people would move on. good luck to him he has been great for you this season.

A proper fan. Take a bow.

Liar. He tripped over a bog brush. But you been a Wiganer, of course it was his own fault.

Video proof here is anyone needs it www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 19,00.html About 30 seconds in you can see his knee go while he is pulling carmont back

Video proof here is anyone needs it www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 19,00.html About 30 seconds in you can see his knee go while he is pulling carmont back

so what's your version, riddell jumped on his leg, then tomkins ,then the rest of the team! he grabbed carmonts shirt and overstretched himself, no more to it than that. if it wasn't his fault who's fault was it? the poster asked if anyone saw what happened and i answered him.

Finally a Wigan fan with a a bit of sense. Of course anyone in the same position would do what McGuire did, it's something I've seen countless times. What most Wigan fans seem to be forgetting is that they still had 50 yards to travel and with the cover that Leeds had, I really don't think they'd have scored anyway.

Being.

Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Video proof here is anyone needs it www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 19,00.html About 30 seconds in you can see his knee go while he is pulling carmont back'" What the hell in Hemmings going on about? "Sam Tomkins to be fair to him is showing concern"? I know Eddies getting on a bit and his eyes might not what they used to be but it's not ST but Tommy L and secondly he does not look like he is showing concern.

Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Video proof here is anyone needs it www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 19,00.html About 30 seconds in you can see his knee go while he is pulling carmont back'" What the hell in Hemmings going on about? "Sam Tomkins to be fair to him is showing concern"? I know Eddies getting on a bit and his eyes might not what they used to be but it's not ST but Tommy L and secondly he does not look like he is showing concern.

Quote ="Austin 3:16" Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Video proof here is anyone needs it www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 19,00.html About 30 seconds in you can see his knee go while he is pulling carmont back'" What the hell in Hemmings going on about? "Sam Tomkins to be fair to him is showing concern"? I know Eddies getting on a bit and his eyes might not what they used to be but it's not ST but Tommy L and secondly he does not look like he is showing concern.'" I agree with you Austin!! It looks like he's going over to chin him and not to show concern.

Quote ="Austin 3:16" Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Video proof here is anyone needs it www.skysports.com/video/clips/0, ... 19,00.html About 30 seconds in you can see his knee go while he is pulling carmont back'" What the hell in Hemmings going on about? "Sam Tomkins to be fair to him is showing concern"? I know Eddies getting on a bit and his eyes might not what they used to be but it's not ST but Tommy L and secondly he does not look like he is showing concern.'" I agree with you Austin!! It looks like he's going over to chin him and not to show concern.

I saw piggy riddell run over and tower very threatingly and menacingley over the prone mcguire.

Then i saw mcguires body spasm as if in terrible pain and piggy riddell ran off.

UNfortunatly you can't see exactly what happens.

Mcguire appeared to be running to catch the slow moving carmont.

But then, his knee buckled, instinctivly he grabbed onto carmont to save himself ligament damage, carmont, seeing all this unfold with the eyes in the back of his head, began running like a man possesed, laughing like a homicidal maniac.

Mcguire was than dragged along like a rag doll, his ligaments been shattered from the resulting force. Hearing his ligaments buckle, carmont goes to ground.

Do you think it is possible he could feel something was badly wrong before he grabbed Carmont? If so it is then logical to grab Carmont as McGuire knew his season was over anyway.

Seriously dude, its time to move on. Oh. Being and shanter are sooooo june.

Bluey was a bit cringe worthy there. McGuire cheated and got injured. These unfortunate things happen.

I saw what happened. He dragged Carmont back and fell over, obviously due to his injury. Piggy ran over (Not Tomkins) and stood over him telling him exactly what he thought of his actions. At no point did Piggy touch him. If Mcguire got up I think Piggy may have chinned him though.

Piggy never moved from the scene. If you look at the photos on this site he's still there when Eastwood and Delany come over. Nothing in it from a Wigan player at all.

Who did the physio push away?

If Riddle had made half the effort to support the break as he did to intimidate an injured player Richards might have had another option.

I've never seen him run so fast or so far.

Slopping out time at Nandos?

The thought crossed my mind but in reality I think the injury was caused by McGuire hyper-extending his knee after he grabbed Carmont.

After watching that clip on the skysports website a couple of times I think it was a bit of both.

Danny has his hand on Carmont early on then his leg seems to crumple but its only as he goes down that he really commits to dragging Carmont down.

I wouldn't have thought it's quite as SaintJames descirbes it more that Danny knows he's going down and doesn't want Carmont to get away unmarked so decides that the best option is to risk giving away the penalty.

One other thought on the video - is it just me or does Richards almost stop playing entirely to call for a penalty...not the smartest of moves

It was like watching jason vorhees run over to massacre a victim. Not a pretty sight.

Hopefully it'll be looked into.

I've watched the incident on sky using the slo mo, the damage to McGuire has already occurred when Riddell runs over to him, but, Riddell appears to stand on McGuires left foot with his right one.
I can't say that I understand the furore over the shirt pulling it happens in almost every game. Its very dissapointing that supporters are glad that a player is injured.
Please dont bother to correct my spelling or grammer, I'm not bothered.

Thinks Richards slows down to try and look to pass for Carmont, only to find him not there.

Pretty sure Mcguire was taking Carmont out before his knee buckled, he had his hand on his shirt pulling him back then DM clips the back of Carmonts heel and thats when his leg goes.

Good luck to the lad for his recovery, shocking way to end a quality season.