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| CONGRATULATIONS WOLVES
and to David (Serge)...
if ever there was an example of the halves/pivots setting the platform with direction and inspiration that was the game (plan) to show it.....
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| I loved the comment 'Briers is a loser... he always has been a loser ... .... ... but today he's a winner'
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| I'm very happy for Briers. He's been our favourite panto villain for years, and he's getting a chance at Wembley at long last. It was nice when he dedicated it to his deceased brother too. Fari play to him.
And once again, Brian Noble fails when it counts aginast Tony Smith.
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| I've been watching cricket all day. And I completely forgot about this game. Completely.
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| Quote ="Bang"I've been watching cricket all day. And I completely forgot about this game. Completely.'"
You missed a belter!
And a new addition to the Steve Ganson hall of fame!
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"And once again, Brian Noble fails when it counts aginast Tony Smith.'"
What you mean like the 2005 Grand Final...
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| Well done Wire - though the Pies were going to sneak it back for a short time but the Wolves did well to see it to the end.
Just goes to show what a decent coach can do.
So who doesn’t want Hudds to make it through tomorrow?
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| What do you reckon should go into the Ganson hall of fame?
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| Quote ="The Joker®"What you mean like the 2005 Grand Final...'"
Ah, but Bradford had to cheat us to beat us that season.........
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"What do you reckon should go into the Ganson hall of fame?'"
That shiocking not-forward-at-all pass for one of Wigan's in the second half. He was dead level with it. How he didn't give it is anyone's guess.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Well done Wire - though the Pies were going to sneak it back for a short time but the Wolves did well to see it to the end.
Just goes to show what a decent coach can do.
So who doesn’t want Hudds to make it through tomorrow?'"
All Rhinos fans should want Saints to go through to the CC final. Then we can beat the stuffing out of them the week after the final and secure top spot in SL.
Congratulations to Warrington. Where next for Nobby?
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"That shiocking not-forward-at-all pass for one of Wigan's in the second half. He was dead level with it. How he didn't give it is anyone's guess.'"
I thought there were a couple,plus the pies were never onside in their own 20.
Well played wolves!
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| I'll want St Helens to win their semi final (as that will clearly be the best result for Leeds) but it won't stop me supporting Huddersfield during the game tomorrow.
I'll be hoping for a close tense arm wrestle either way.
Well done to Warrington today. I well remember the feeling of getting back to Wembley after a sixteen year wait in 1994 and it was the greatest feeling without winning a trophy.
Warrington's first final in nineteen years to look forward to will be quite something. Congratulations to them and especially their ex Leeds contingent.
On to the final and Warrington will be after their first Challenge Cup since the 1973/74 season. Tony Smith's first season in charge, a club waiting a lifetime inbetween dinks. It has a familiar feel to it.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"CONGRATULATIONS WOLVES
and to David (Serge)...
if ever there was an example of the halves/pivots setting the platform with direction and inspiration that was the game (plan) to show it.....
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Interesting that - when the Wigan forwards dominated in the first 20 minutes you never saw either Warrington half back as soon as Noble replaced Coley and Tomkins the Warrington forwards took control and that was that until Noble brought Coley back and hey presto no sight of the Warrington half backs - simple really half backs cannot operate behind a beaten set of forwards - touchee
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Interesting that - when the Wigan forwards dominated in the first 20 minutes you never saw either Warrington half back as soon as Noble replaced Coley and Tomkins '"
It wasn't Tomkins it was Prescott and he really needs to sort out that first carry.
Warington (Smith) did a number on Palea'aesina today. I don't know why every team don't do the same.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Interesting that - when the Wigan forwards dominated in the first 20 minutes you never saw either Warrington half back as soon as Noble replaced Coley and Tomkins the Warrington forwards took control and that was that until Noble brought Coley back and hey presto no sight of the Warrington half backs - simple really half backs cannot operate behind a beaten set of forwards - touchee'"
Adrian Morley > Wigan forwards (and Leuluai at one point)...
Chesney from Corrie needs to get rid of that attitude problem ASAP when things aren't going his way. King showed him up like a right tool at the end of the first half there.
Congratulations Warrington on winning a very entertaining game.
(bar the first 20 minutes of the second half, that is... shocking handling from both sides)
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| Quote ="tvoc"It wasn't Tomkins it was Prescott and he really needs to sort out that first carry.
Warington (Smith) did a number on Palea'aesina today. I don't know why every team don't do the same.'"
I agree they isolated him and constantly ran at him - simply doesn't have the stamina to make two tackles in a set
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Interesting that - when the Wigan forwards dominated in the first 20 minutes you never saw either Warrington half back as soon as Noble replaced Coley and Tomkins the Warrington forwards took control and that was that until Noble brought Coley back and hey presto no sight of the Warrington half backs - simple really half backs cannot operate behind a beaten set of forwards - touchee'"
touche indeed...
interesting that you feel a teams forwards can dominate even if it lasts only 20 minutes... the game lasts 80 minutes you know.
From where I sat the lasting dominating force in that game where the Wires halves working to imput an excellent game plan from TS.
If this myth about forward domination and halves taking their lead from them where true coaches would be redundant and we would only see boring repetitive matches not the excitment seen today.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"
So who doesn’t want Hudds to make it through tomorrow?'" All genuine Leeds fans.
Saints having the extra fixture is the best thing we could hope for.
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| It's a shame King versus Tompkins wasn't allowed to run to it's natural conclusion. It would have been hilarious.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Ah, but Bradford had to cheat us to beat us that season.........'"
And cheats never beat do they dude. We know cause we play fair and square. Willy nilly. 1st the worst 2nd the best 3rd the one with the hairy chest. Ip dip dog.
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| I mentioned in the preview thread this week how Tomkins was beginning to annoy me already.
You can see why Noble had been reluctant to throw Tomkins in week in, week out. There's some talent there but a bit too much attitude going with it at the moment.
No doubt Warrington were giving him a serve, any coach would be missing a trick not to.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"touche indeed...
interesting that you feel a teams forwards can dominate even if it lasts only 20 minutes...
the game lasts 80 minutes you know.
From where I sat the lasting dominating force in that game where the Wires halves working to imput an excellent game plan from TS.
If this myth about forward domination and halves taking their lead from them where true coaches would be redundant and we would only see boring repetitive matches not the excitment seen today.
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The scoring resulted in sway of forward domination between the two sides whichever side had the forward domination - if the Warrington halves were so dominant how did Wigan manage to score so many points?
All sides look for the forwards to domainate to lay the platform once that happens the backs can then fire - the 2007 GF was classic example of that - the forwards beat Saints up and then in the 2nd half the backs took them to the cleaners.
You cannot win a game no matter how dominant your halves are if you forwards get beat up
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| Quote ="tvoc"I mentioned in the preview thread this week how Tomkins was beginning to annoy me already.
You can see why Noble had been reluctant to throw Tomkins in week in, week out. There's some talent there but a bit too much attitude going with it at the moment.
No doubt Warrington were giving him a serve, any coach would be missing a trick not to.'"
King really embarrassed Tomkins today - his defensive frailties were exposed for all to see - somebody needs to deal with his attitude too
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| The thing with Forwards and Halves is that the Forwards need the direction of a scrum half (and hooker) to look good and the halves need the progression up the field (to keep the opposition on the back foot) to give them room to bring the backs into the game.
Neither Forwards nor Halves can do it on their own, that's why its a team game...
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