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| Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties - Try Assists
Leeds: 1359 - 186 (7.31) - 283 - 20 (93%) - 7 - 11
=blueHull: 1134 - 171 (6.63) - 280 - ? (??%) - 15 - 7
Webb: 102 - 21 (4.86) - 5 - 0 (100%) - 2 - 0 - 1 (Ablett)
Donald: 93 - 9 (10.33) - 0 - 0 (%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Smith: 109 - 9 (12.11) - 9 - 3 (75%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Senior: 100 - 12 (8.33) - 15 - 2 (88%) - 0 - 1 - 1 (Hall)
Hall: 103 - 10 (10.30) - 2 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Sinfield: 94 - 15 (6.27) - 21 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 1 - 2 (Smith X 2)
McGuire: 100 - 14 (7.14) - 17 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 1 - 3 (Senior X 2, Webb)
Leuluai: 58 - 7 (8.29) - 28 - 1 (97%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Buderus: 16 - 2 (8.00) - 14 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0 - 0
Peacock: 143 - 20 (7.15) - 26 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Jones-Buchanan: 25 - 4 (6.25) - 4 - 1 (80%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Kirke: 33 - 7 (4.71) - 22 - 4 (85%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Ablett: 60 - 8 (7.50) - 46 - 2 (96%) - 1 - 1 - 0
Diskin: 73 - 9 (8.11) - 26 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Lauitiiti: 121 - 16 (7.56) - 14 - 1 (93%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Bailey: 58 - 11 (5.27) - 22 - 3 (88%) - 2 - 2 - 0
Burgess: 71 - 12 (5.92) - 12 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Ablett's 46 tackles was the second highest by a Leeds player this season (best 51 - Sinfield V Harlequins)
Opta have gone a bit giddy awarding try assists to all bar Sinfield's ball steal for the last, making some of their earlier non awards all the more laughable.
Edit: Peacock's one missed tackle missed by me.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties - Try Assists
Leeds: 1359 - 186 (7.31) - 283 - 20 (93%) - 7 - 11
=blueHull: 1134 - 171 (6.63) - 280 - ? (??%) - 15 - 7
Webb: 102 - 21 (4.86) - 5 - 0 (100%) - 2 - 0 - 1 (Ablett)
Donald: 93 - 9 (10.33) - 0 - 0 (%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Smith: 109 - 9 (12.11) - 9 - 3 (75%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Senior: 100 - 12 (8.33) - 15 - 2 (88%) - 0 - 1 - 1 (Hall)
Hall: 103 - 10 (10.30) - 2 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Sinfield: 94 - 15 (6.27) - 21 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 1 - 2 (Smith X 2)
McGuire: 100 - 14 (7.14) - 17 - 1 (94%) - 0 - 1 - 3 (Senior X 2, Webb)
Leuluai: 58 - 7 (8.29) - 28 - 1 (97%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Buderus: 16 - 2 (8.00) - 14 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0 - 0
Peacock: 143 - 20 (7.15) - 26 - 0 (96%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Jones-Buchanan: 25 - 4 (6.25) - 4 - 1 (80%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Kirke: 33 - 7 (4.71) - 22 - 4 (85%) - 0 - 0 - 0
Ablett: 60 - 8 (7.50) - 46 - 2 (96%) - 1 - 1 - 0
Diskin: 73 - 9 (8.11) - 26 - 1 (96%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Lauitiiti: 121 - 16 (7.56) - 14 - 1 (93%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Bailey: 58 - 11 (5.27) - 22 - 3 (88%) - 2 - 2 - 0
Burgess: 71 - 12 (5.92) - 12 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 1 - 0
Ablett's 46 tackles was the second highest by a Leeds player this season (best 51 - Sinfield V Harlequins)
Opta have gone a bit giddy awarding try assists to all bar Sinfield's ball steal for the last, making some of their earlier non awards all the more laughable.'"
Good to see Kylie earning his "rest of the career" contract!!
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Good to see Kylie earning his "rest of the career" contract!!
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Considering he had the best metre per carry rate in our forwards and a decent tackle rate according to TVOC's stats there, that seems a very strange comment.
Although it does seem strange that Peacock didnt miss any tackles yet his tackle efficiency is only 96%
Quote ="tvoc"Peacock: 143 - 20 (7.15) - 26 - 0 (96%) - 0 - 1 - 0 '"
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| Quote ="BigRob"Considering he had the best metre per carry rate in our forwards and a decent tackle rate according to TVOC's stats there, that seems a very strange comment.
Although it does seem strange that Peacock didnt miss any tackles yet his tackle efficiency is only 96%
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He may be getting at the fact that he only had 7 carries, where as peacock took it up 20 times.
It would make more sense if Kylie took the ball up abit more meaning peacock would be fresher so he'd have more of an impact and judging by kylie's metres per carry stat, we should give him the ball more anyway.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan"He may be getting at the fact that he only had 7 carries, where as peacock took it up 20 times.
It would make more sense if Kylie took the ball up abit more meaning peacock would be fresher so he'd have more of an impact and judging by kylie's metres per carry stat, we should give him the ball more anyway.'"
True, or he could have said that both Bailey and Burgess need to make more metres when they have the ball and do more in defence, it just seems strange to me to pick out only Leuluai for criticism.
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| Quote ="BigRob"True, or he could have said that both Bailey and Burgess need to make more metres when they have the ball and do more in defence, it just seems strange to me to pick out only Leuluai for criticism.'"
Very true. I think Bailey does really well in defence but lacks go forward. If he was more 'in their faces' with ball in hand he could be a really good prop. Burgess I think has potential but needs to improve his defensive game.
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| Quote ="BigRob"
Although it does seem strange that Peacock didnt miss any tackles yet his tackle efficiency is only 96%
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Just checking you're still awake. Good spot, I'll edit that one.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Just checking you're still awake. Good spot, I'll edit that one.'"
I just naturally assumed it was OPTA who had made the mistake, as I dont think I'd want to live in a world where tvoc gets his stats wrong. I'd be scared to go outside.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan"Very true. I think Bailey does really well in defence but lacks go forward. If he was more 'in their faces' with ball in hand he could be a really good prop. Burgess I think has potential but needs to improve his defensive game.'"
Yep id agree. Burgess obviously is only young and so I wouldnt want much pressure put on him and would like to see him rested for the odd game too. Bailey on the other hand is 25 now and to be honest I want to see more from him, especially when he has the ball.
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| I read Kylie's stats as a decent defensive effort too. should have time spent on the pitch really.
and yeah - it also indicates he made more impact all round than Kirke, Bailey and Burgess.
In fact it's just dumb to compare him to Peacock, there isn't a prop in Superleague who works harder than Peacock, whose contribution to the team is of a quite different nature to that provided by Kylie.
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| Quote ="BigRob"I just naturally assumed it was OPTA who had made the mistake, as I dont think I'd want to live in a world where tvoc gets his stats wrong. I'd be scared to go outside.'"
Unfortunately the mistake this time was all mine. I lift the totals from the SL website and the spreadsheet creates a game by game breakdown by player.
If it helps any it was only in the transfer from spreadsheet to forum that I screwed it up so hopefully you'll still believe.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan"...where as peacock took it up 20 times.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan" I think Bailey does really well in defence but lacks go forward. '"
It was noticeable that Bailey passed the ball before taking contact in the move for Senior's second try just as Peacock had done for Smith's first.
A new tactic for Leeds' props and one that proved pretty effective. That involvement wouldn't really show up in the stats though.
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| Kirke has been pretty ordinary ball in hand recently and these stats show an appalling lack of appetite for the ball.
Considering JJB's injury comparing Kirke with the allegedly lazy Lautiti shows hos little work Kirke does with the ball.
We do need another prop to take some of the work from Peacock. Kylie should definitely be making more carries than that.
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| The ultimate golden geek thread !
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| Some of us find stats interesting
Anyway thanks for posting them TVOC.
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| Quote ="G1"Kirke has been pretty ordinary ball in hand recently and these stats show an appalling lack of appetite for the ball. '"
I can also tell you that he missed more than 4 tackles in that game. I don't care what opta says.
Those 4 misses he is credited with are in the first 11 minutes of the game aswell. So no excuses for tiredness.
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| Those stats help show just how much we're overworking Peacock. Could come back to bite us at the business end of the season when we've tended to overwork/flay him even more...
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"The ultimate golden geek thread !
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Not like you to comment on a thread about rugby league.
Have a word with yourself will you.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Unfortunately the mistake this time was all mine. I lift the totals from the SL website and the spreadsheet creates a game by game breakdown by player.
If it helps any it was only in the transfer from spreadsheet to forum that I screwed it up so hopefully you'll still believe.
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Dont worry I've not lost the faith.
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A new tactic for Leeds' props and one that proved pretty effective. That involvement wouldn't really show up in the stats though.'"
Thats true, its something Mark O'Neill did during his brief stay at Leeds and was roundly criticised for and branded soft for not taking the ball in.
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| Quote ="G1"Kirke has been pretty ordinary ball in hand recently and these stats show an appalling lack of appetite for the ball.
Considering JJB's injury comparing Kirke with the allegedly lazy Lautiti shows hos little work Kirke does with the ball.
We do need another prop to take some of the work from Peacock. Kylie should definitely be making more carries than that.'"
Agreed. Although in Kirke's defence didnt he go off injured in the first half? Im sure I saw him go down and end up off the field.
But the point is still well made that Peacock needs some assistance, was good to see Ablett doing his bit in defence but we could do with Kirke, Bailey, Burgess & Leuluai picking up a bit more of the slack. Obviously having Eastwood would have helped here.
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| Quote ="BigRob"Agreed. Although in Kirke's defence didnt he go off injured in the first half? Im sure I saw him go down and end up off the field.
But the point is still well made that Peacock needs some assistance, was good to see Ablett doing his bit in defence but we could do with Kirke, Bailey, Burgess & Leuluai picking up a bit more of the slack. Obviously having Eastwood would have helped here.'"
kirke did indeed go off injured and spent some time off the pitch due to this.
Some people's assement of players' performances post match is just a joke.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Not like you to comment on a thread about rugby league.
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I'm not, I'm commenting on the ultimate golden geek thread
Who on earth, other than the players and coaching staff gives a flying one over the OPTA stats ?
Do you seriously let it affect your judgement, do you think less of Bailey because a stato thinks he's only 88% efficient ?
Its very much a "single man in overcoat sitting on his own in the tap room with a half all night" sort of thing to rave over
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"I'm not, I'm commenting on the ultimate golden geek thread
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And its not even July yet.
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| Quote ="TDR"kirke did indeed go off injured and spent some time off the pitch due to this.
Some people's assement of players' performances post match is just a joke.'"
Totally agree they have a very blinkered view and change their views from game to game. Look at some of the squad who are 'internationals' and should be setting the standard.
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