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| Another game to tick off before the St. Helens game, reckon we will send a good squad over there. Don't think McGuire, Ferres, Ward will be risked or Galloway.
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With us playing Doncaster on Sunday I'd think that Smith, Oledzki, JJR, Aston, Ormondroyd will play in that game.
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| I thought it was already said Ward and Ferres won't make Saints game? And Galloway out till after Easter?
Please put Moon to stand off and Sutcliffe to centre.
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| Any reason no Ablett in your team?
Cameron Smith didn't feature against Hunslet so maybe injured I'm guessing.
McDermott said Ward is ahead of Ferres in terms of recovery and could feature vs Fev.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I thought it was already said Ward and Ferres won't make Saints game? And Galloway out till after Easter?
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Please put Moon to stand off and Sutcliffe to centre[/u.'"
not you too. moon was awful at stand off last year. leave him where he's best
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| Quote ="tad rhino"not you too. moon was awful at stand off last year. leave him where he's best'"
I don't agree tad, not from a team perspective. And certainly an improvement on Sutcliffe.
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| I don't agree with that either. Sutcliffe is in a key period. he needs to find a position and get a run in it
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I don't agree with that either. Sutcliffe is in a key period. he needs to find a position and get a run in it'"
Exactly. Centre is that position. Pivot is not that position.
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| but moon isn't a half either
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| Moon in the halves & Sutcliffe at centre both might work and I can see the idea of picking them there........but are we in a position to go several games trying them there to find out? Not really.
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| Still think Sutty would make a good loose forward. Can also see while people think he might play centre.
Far too early to right him off as a half though. Very few command that position at his age.
Just need to be careful we don't turn him into Lee Gaskell.
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| moon was tried at 6 last year in a couple of games and was awful. he's a quality centre. leave him there. I also like sutty as a 13, but I would like to see ward there too
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| Quote ="tad rhino"moon was tried at 6 last year in a couple of games and was awful. he's a quality centre. leave him there. I also like sutty as a 13, but I would like to see ward there too'"
He was tried in one game, and the team responded better. Sutcliffe has had what? 60 games there? And still awful. This is a friendly where we need all options and scenarios tried. Give it a go.
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| Moon was tried at half back in the NRL and was found wanting - hence his move to the centres - why re-discover what has already be unearthed. Pointless IMO.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He was tried in one game, and the team responded better. Sutcliffe has had what? 60 games there? And still awful. This is a friendly where we need all options and scenarios tried. Give it a go.'"
1st of all when did he play 60 games at SO? He's moved around between 6 BR C & FB since he broke through.
Last year he played the 1st 3/4mths without an injury re-hab & virtually no pre-season either behind a battred rudderless pack.
Also when he has played 6 he wasn't awful in every one either you'd think he was the worse player in SL the way some have a go at him.
Moon is a better Centre than a 6 that's a given imo plus Sutty has had good games at 6 he just needs a sustained injury free run there with a cinsistent partner at 7 & a regular 9.
The Coaches need to male a call on his position & keep him there preferably at 6 or 13.
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| spot on. his performances at 6 in early 2015, especially the saints away game, were exceptional.
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| I don't see the value of moon at 6 as he's not exactly known for creating space for his wing let alone providing structure from stand off. Sutcliffe though isn't showing any signs of bringing that to role either, great carrier of the ball and could well end up as a back row or centre. Interesting to hear mcdermotts comments about needing to make the shirt his own (sounded like he's not happy that he is at the minute). Big decisions to make for the club going forwards considering the spine of the team.
Personally I'd look for a half to partner Lilley for the long term future and have ward/Sutcliffe somewhere in the back row.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"1st of all when did he play 60 games at SO? He's moved around between 6 BR C & FB since he broke through.
Last year he played the 1st 3/4mths without an injury re-hab & virtually no pre-season either behind a battred rudderless pack.
Also when he has played 6 he wasn't awful in every one either you'd think he was the worse player in SL the way some have a go at him.
Moon is a better Centre than a 6 that's a given imo plus Sutty has had good games at 6 he just needs a sustained injury free run there with a cinsistent partner at 7 & a regular 9.
The Coaches need to male a call on his position & keep him there preferably at 6 or 13.'"
He has played 90 games. Can't have played more than 20 at fullback, and he hasn't really played back row at all. I was been generous when I said 60, but it was a guess.
I agree Moon is a better centre, but he also likely a better stand off than Sutcliffe. Unless there's another option? Because the friendly is where it should be tried.
Whatever the outcome, two or three years down the line, Sutcliffe will be a centre in the game.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Moon was tried at half back in the NRL and was found wanting - hence his move to the centres - why re-discover what has already be unearthed. Pointless IMO.'"
Tbf that's the NRL when he was around 21. SL with several more years of experience and couple of hundred games under him is a different thing.
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| but he's still not a 6
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| Quote ="tad rhino"but he's still not a 6'"
Maybe, maybe not.
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| going to be a 6 he would have played there, consistently, long before now.
i'm with seth. lets find a long term partner for lilley. let lilley sit and dictate and find a quality running half to partner him
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| Quote ="tad rhino"going to be a 6 he would have played there, consistently, long before now.
i'm with seth. lets find a long term partner for lilley. let lilley sit and dictate and find a quality running half to partner him'"
Sutty needs 30 games at 6 to prove himself but he will have to make do with playing when the undropable mags is injured.
So I think we'll see 15 games apiece with mags injuries meaning neither 6 will get settled
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| Moon's the best centre we have by a long way. He grafts, gets involved when things aren't going our way, makes important breaks out of nothing, the very opposite of the centre on the other side.
I really wouldn't contemplate moving him into the halves.
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| I think we might be alright with Sutcliffe at 6 and Lilley at 7. You've got a runner and an organiser. Though I do agree Sutcliffe needs to do more of the "other" half back work than just running.
I do also wonder whether a long term option might be Golding and Lilley in the halves with Sutcliffe at full back.
Agree with Les Norton on Moon. He's a cracking centre and I'd keep him there if at all possible.
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| I think Moon is a good player who happens to play centre rather than a good centre. The reason I wouldn't mind seeing him move is because I think he could do so much more like the two tries he helped set up in the 2015 CCFinal by popping up over on the right hand side and his try in the GF. Think restricting him to just the left edge is a bit of a waste and he can be a threat across the pitch instead of one part of it.
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