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| I know this is pretty left field but what do people think of Clarkson as a shout for hooker?
He is contracted to us and has turned Widnes down. Given he obviously doesn't want to go down the league, and I don't see another top 6 team likely to offer him a deal it looks like he will be coming back to us.
His defence has always been very good but has struggled to emulate the attacking play of a jjb or ablett at 2nd row. McD seems to favour the strong hooker who can double as an extra forward when Burrow comes on rather than the skilful ball playing hooker (see you later McShane).
He knows the club and the ethos, can't be on big money and wouldn't stifle Robbie Wards progression in the longer term.
Not sure if I'm talking myself into something silly though.
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| apparently he has agreed a deal with hull kr for next season
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| Terrible idea, and thankfully not one we're going to use.
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| Open secret he's off to Hull kr.
I'd stick with what we have and at least give ward a go, unless we have a real quality signing up our sleeve, and I don't include Lunt & bought on in that.
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"apparently he has agreed a deal with hull kr for next season'"
There you have it then.
Are we getting a transfer fee? Assume not
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| I think Aiton has shown the value of a proper hooker.we have a great pack and clearly want to offload.
We need a proper hooker . Not a SH forced there through injury or a SR that's not been good enough imo
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"I think Aiton has shown the value of a proper hooker.we have a great pack and clearly want to offload.
We need a proper hooker . Not a SH forced there through injury or a SR that's not been good enough imo'"
Many regard Houghton as a "proper hooker" because he has a high tackle count but his distribution on Friday was poor and played a part in their defeat. Hull fans regularly criticism him for bad options and passes. The distribution and dummy runs are more important than the tackling.
The modern 9 is expected to be up with every PTB on attack and make more tackles than the other forwards when on defense with the result that a bench place has to be tied up with a reserve 9. I do not see why the 9 cannot play the full 80 and make much fewer tackles but have the 4th bench spot filled with a high tackling forward. We expect too much from our 9s who are really halfbacks and not built for heavy tackling work.
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| Indeed. I still think if we had a proper hooker with Burrow to cover and R Ward as back up /games vs lower teams is much better than going with Burrow or Clarkson .
If that means Houghton I'd be ok with it though hopefully we could sign better.
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"Indeed. I still think if we had a proper hooker with Burrow to cover and R Ward as back up /games vs lower teams is much better than going with Burrow or Clarkson .
If that means Houghton I'd be ok with it though hopefully we could sign better.'"
IMO Clarkson is a non starter and Burrow is much better than R Ward from what I have seen. Not that many candidates about.
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| Clarkson played a few games as hooker last season/season before when we had injuries. I don't think he did too badly from memory and with a bit of work something possibly could have been made of him. But you can't take that kind of risk (make him the lead hooker and hope it works) with such a critical position.
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| Matt Ballin
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There isn't many other who are available
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| Quote ="Frosties."Matt Ballin
Beau Falloon
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There isn't many other who are available'"
Thought Ballin is now injured? And not sure Lunt is the answer now so.....?
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Thought Ballin is now injured? And not sure Lunt is the answer now so.....?'"
Yeah. Could be out for six to nine months. Shaun Lunt I'm led to believe is about to sign for Hull KR.
There is Heath Lestrange also..
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| No possible candidate from the championship?
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| there are a real lack of top class quality hookers about. I don't watch NRL so no idea who is available from there. i'm not sure who is good enough and available in the UK either.
I think if we want a quality hooker then GH will have to splash the cash
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| It is not known on Ballin until he has a scan tomorrow. Then it is six months, back just after start of season.
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| It has to be Beau Falloon if only for the name.
I do like the idea of Faux Balloon, pure comedy genius.
Who cares if he can play or not?
PS that may just be the extremely good bottle of Albarino I've just had with my dinner.
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| I'd take any of the players mentioned so far over what we have at the club at the minute.
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| If you are throwing in Clarkson as left field although he is signing for HKR thanks to JP.
What about Keinhorst?
Worth a try at some time maybe?
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Many regard Houghton as a "proper hooker" because he has a high tackle count but his distribution on Friday was poor and played a part in their defeat. Hull fans regularly criticism him for bad options and passes. The distribution and dummy runs are more important than the tackling.
The modern 9 is expected to be up with every PTB on attack and make more tackles than the other forwards when on defense with the result that a bench place has to be tied up with a reserve 9. I do not see why the 9 cannot play the full 80 and make much fewer tackles but have the 4th bench spot filled with a high tackling forward. We expect too much from our 9s who are really halfbacks and not built for heavy tackling work.'"
Summed Houghton up well there,we should have kept Heremia and let Houghton go.
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| Here's a left field one, assuming they don't get promoted.
Bob Beswick for a couple of years. Clever player, bit of a kicking game out of dummy half, good defender.
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| If we were going for a championship hooker then I'd rather have Adam Obrien from Bradford.
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| I'd prefer a genuine hooker. If we were to manufacture one then Keinhorst could be the best bet, mainly because he has good hands and seems to have a good rugby brain.
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| No way should we try to turn Clarkson into a hooker, we need a proper established one.
If he hasn't already signed for HKR then I would say it'd be a wise move now to bring him back to effectively take JJB's spot in the squad as it'll be hard to find a replacement for him for next year in the possible event that he retires or barely plays.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Matt Ballin
Beau Falloon
Shaun Lunt
There isn't many other who are available'"
beau falloon still has the cocaine dealing case hanging over him so is that worth a gamble? so has dave taylor and he has signed for catalan.
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