Can i ask how do you know for a fact?
Did you go and ask him??

To be perfectly honest the debate had expanded to a point where even I were losing interest in it.



It felt OK at the time but it turned out we were watching a donkey race. The '82 Kangaroo tour demonstrated how the game should be played and it's been catch up ever since.

However as no-one has remotely argued for there being another complete ban on overseas trained players in SL I'm not sure it's a point worthy of discussion here.

The short-term overseas fix employed by anxious, impatient club chairmen and CEOs ever since '84 has had both merits and de-merits but it's always been a question of getting the balance right. The RFL have tried and tried again by lowering the overseas quota but the numbers still increase. I only hope they have more success now with the positive quotas compelling clubs to invest in their youth structures and/or seek to buy British when in the market for new players.

The removal of the threat of relegation should help the clubs in bringing through homegrown talent.
We've only brought in one overseas player, Delaney, this year after Eastwood & Buderus last.
Compare that with Bradford who've brought in 3, Orford, L'Estrange & Hall.

Eastwood was an intended signing for 2009 but without the neccessary clearance I doubt Leeds were able to register him with the RFL at any stage that year. Without a RFL registration can he be described as a Leeds signing in 2009? Hetherington stated that Leeds weren't paying him and that his three year contract was deferred 12 months starting in 2010.

I'm no authority on Bradford playing rostas but didn't they release Jeffries, Morrison, Tadulala and Solomona to acquire Orford, L'Estrange and Hall so their 'overseas trained' position was reduced in 2010 (before the RFL blanket exemptions were applied after Gene won his appeal of course.)

I doubt Jeffries, Morrison and Tadulala count as overseas trained.

I also note Wakefield was the destination for two of those players. Wakefield were a club cited for as the catalyst for this new rule when their relegation decider contained virtually no English players.

Quote ="G1"I doubt Jeffries, Morrison and Tadulala count as overseas trained.'" Just to muddy who is and isn't exempt read John Kear's comment here news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 368351.stm Quote ="G1"I also note Wakefield was the destination for two of those players. Wakefield were a club cited for as the catalyst for this new rule when their relegation decider contained virtually no English players.'" Wakefield are getting to grips with the year on year RFL reductions (they are up to 16 players in their 25 man squad (as far as I can see) using the BBC's English born and bred yardstick.

Quote ="G1"I doubt Jeffries, Morrison and Tadulala count as overseas trained.'" Just to muddy who is and isn't exempt read John Kear's comment here news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 368351.stm Quote ="G1"I also note Wakefield was the destination for two of those players. Wakefield were a club cited for as the catalyst for this new rule when their relegation decider contained virtually no English players.'" Wakefield are getting to grips with the year on year RFL reductions (they are up to 16 players in their 25 man squad (as far as I can see) using the BBC's English born and bred yardstick.