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| Reading his posts, mainly on the Wakey forum, he is obviously a Whino fan involved in the construction industry. He may be hoping for a few nice contracts to bid for if GH and more importantly NM go ahead.
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| Quote ="Fully"I understand it to be a reserved matters application.
Start date is April with build time 40 odd weeks.'"
Thanks fully, if all goes to plan that means contracts could be signed prior to the application being submitted to the RFL and certainly before the July announcements.
That would put you in and playing in the new ground mid 2012 season, which sounds a good shout.
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| Quote ="Glassblower"It appears I understood it more than than you thought. That said the delays are nothing to celebrate about, I will only be happy sat in the GH Stadium.'"
I was totally right though and it was most certainly the answer... it was not the answer Wakefield or I hoped for but as I eluded to, the 22nd and the 28 days (although I know they requested and extension beyond that) was important!
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| Quote ="Towns88"IA, what does it matter to you?'"
Just interested to know what the details and current proposed time frames were as, given I am in the construction industry, it is useful to know this sort of information for my network, but as I work in a smaller more niche market sector (but growing!) within the industry, it is just for givers gain reasons really!
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| Quote ="Gazemous"If we listen to Richard Wright, we'll be playing in it sometime around 2008.'"
Quote ="Gazemous"Best bet is to wait and see. FPP is meant to be a formality, I guess it'll happen if it happens.'"
It is formality and will probably just be handled under delegated powers (unless there is something that has changed or conditions that are not being discharged fully... which I doubt). The biggest discussion on GH is likely to centre around the materials choices and the number of urinals... no more!
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| Quote ="bigalf"Reading his posts, mainly on the Wakey forum, he is obviously a Whino fan involved in the construction industry. He may be hoping for a few nice contracts to bid for if GH and more importantly NM go ahead.'"
I learnt yesterday that there is a board, unlike RL Fans in general I am pleased to say, where your comments would go down a storm judging by what I have briefly seen and clearly I am revelling in minor celebrity status... now I know I have one... on board I didn't even know existing! They would love you over there!!! That said, maybe I am being harsh on you, at least you have the minerals to post this comment here...
I could answer you (and you will find it already if you look) but I suspect you don't really care? If you do, PM me and I will tell you all you need to know.
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| This is sad and I would hate to be in the Wakey fans position right now! After the scenes of celebration on look north when they recieved the go ahead from the council some of them seemed to think it was a done deal but all the while there were those on the outside warning that this would be called in by Pickles and so it has. The Wakey BOD cant honestly expect their fans to believe that this is a suprise to them after all of the opposition from various quarters not to mention the misgivings from other fans or did they honestly think that because their future depends on better facilities that the powers that be would turn a blind eye to the green belt issue and complaints from residents and Leeds city council? From an outsiders point of view it looks as though this was a huge roll of the dice from the Wakey BOD.
This is not the end of the road for Wakey as they can still ground share with barnsley (or dare I say Cas) and meet the RFL criteria that way I suppose but Whatever the plan B is they better get moving fast.
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Share is the wrong word. That implies input from both sides to meet a common mutually beneficial goal not Wakey jumping on the bandwagon at the last minute because their own plans went belly up.
Nope i'm affraid if Wakey want to use GH (once built) they would be doing so as paying tennants and have no input on anything and receive no revenue from other events, catering van payments etc it would be ground hire and that is all. That's all they would get from Barnsley after all.
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Share is the wrong word. That implies input from both sides to meet a common mutually beneficial goal not Wakey jumping on the bandwagon at the last minute because their own plans went belly up.
Nope i'm affraid if Wakey want to use GH (once built) they would be doing so as paying tennants and have no input on anything and receive no revenue from other events, catering van payments etc it would be ground hire and that is all. That's all they would get from Barnsley after all.
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| At the risk of a public flogging by the haters here goes-
Yes let them come and SHARE GH would be a better stadium, our debts would be less, running costs shared and most of STILL at GH
Why not ( except for "i hate them i would rather watch them rot"icon_wink.gif not my words i am deffo pro Sharing
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| Quote ="binks"At the risk of a public flogging by the haters here goes-
Yes let them come and SHARE GH would be a better stadium, our debts would be less, running costs shared and most of STILL at GH
Why not ( except for "i hate them i would rather watch them rot"icon_wink.gif not my words i am deffo pro Sharing'"
Because the tight (skint) bleeders would never pay the rent?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Because the tight (skint) bleeders would never pay the rent?
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Exactly, not the best at paying bills on time so why have them at glasshoughton?
I would be worried if i was connected with Oakwell, or even Elland road (its the latest rumour thats popped up on their site)
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| What i'm a little confused about is that i thought Wakey had a plan B in place no matter what happened with NM so why is there so much speculation about what it is ?
Surely they can just announce it.
Good luck to them anyway, hope the can get sorted and a franchise agreed (obviously not at our expense !!)I think SL will be a worse place without either of us. I'm also not gonna count my chickens until FPP has been put in and granted and building started.
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| Quote ="WallTiger"What i'm a little confused about is that i thought Wakey had a plan B in place no matter what happened with NM so why is there so much speculation about what it is ?
Surely they can just announce it.
Good luck to them anyway, hope the can get sorted and a franchise agreed (obviously not at our expense !!)I think SL will be a worse place without either of us. I'm also not gonna count my chickens until FPP has been put in and granted and building started.'"
Yes I have to say I am thinking along those lines too while ever wakey are around and we have not started the build anything could still happen. I think we must get the planning in asap and at least get the pitch laid to show a start.
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| It'd be hilarious if Wakey came crawling over with a begging bowl after telling us where to go when we first proposed a ground share. If they can pay rent, or if they put enough finance into it, I'd accept it. I said that before. But if they turned round now and wanted in on our plans, we'd have to be in the driving seat.
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| Quote ="BD"It'd be hilarious if Wakey came crawling over with a begging bowl after telling us where to go when we first proposed a ground share. If they can pay rent, or if they put enough finance into it, I'd accept it. I said that before. But if they turned round now and wanted in on our plans, we'd have to be in the driving seat.'"
As nice as it would be I dont think it will ever happen, I dont think he wakey board will even consider the idea.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I was totally right though and it was most certainly the answer... it was not the answer Wakefield or I hoped for but as I eluded to, the 22nd and the 28 days (although I know they requested and extension beyond that) was important!
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...and has I said Wakefield (in my opinion) will not receive full planning permission.
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| Oh i say. The air of smugness coming from wakefield seems to have suddenly gone.
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| It means "please dont kick us out of sl rfl, we have a little bit of the funding sorted for the stadium," (even though our planning application has gone to the dogs)
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| Certainly have no idea why they feel people need this clarification. It's been widely publicised since it was first announced that the council weren't giving cash to either club.
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What could they possibly do that would develop it? Add a cover for 3 sides? We've got that at Wheldon Road, and despite it's character, we're all man enough to admit that it's not good enough even if we redeveloped it. Both grounds are old and decrepit, and staying in them is not a good option.
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What could they possibly do that would develop it? Add a cover for 3 sides? We've got that at Wheldon Road, and despite it's character, we're all man enough to admit that it's not good enough even if we redeveloped it. Both grounds are old and decrepit, and staying in them is not a good option.
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Had it not come from someone with tiger in there usser name i may have thought there could be some truth in it but as it stands i can't see that being true. I asked the question on the wakey board about this statement but it just looked as though it was going to escalate into another slanging match so i let it drop, but i have to say that the statement did seem very strange to me just for the simple fact of why make it at all ?.
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Had it not come from someone with tiger in there usser name i may have thought there could be some truth in it but as it stands i can't see that being true. I asked the question on the wakey board about this statement but it just looked as though it was going to escalate into another slanging match so i let it drop, but i have to say that the statement did seem very strange to me just for the simple fact of why make it at all ?.
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| But no-one answers the question of how they can stay when they have sold the ground.
If they can "buy-back" their stadium and find the resources to re-develop this has to be their best option.
At least if the worst does happen and they are relegated they still have a ground in Wakefield!
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