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| People named Xanadu, Shangri La and Laputia. Doesn't mean they exist. Or ever will.
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| It doesn't mean they don't or wont either...
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| Quote ="tigerman1+1"£35 and a s egg..........if they want a song thrush I think theirs a nest in the tree outside my works but they will have to wait now till next season, if not will a dozen free range eggs do.'"
Havent heard that one for ages!!
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| Quote ="tigerbaz"Had a few beers this afternoon watchin the diggers on our new ground
drive down newmarket lane everyday to work not much happening down there pal.
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I think you will find that the diggers were working on a piece of land that will become available for commercial purposes. At this moment that land is provisionally ear marked for Castleford Tigers proposed new stadium. That situation can change at the drop of an hat! That is an uncomfortable fact that many on here will not accept.
No matter how many diggers you see buzzing around that particular piece of land, it will be nothing to do with the construction of the proposed new stadium. No construction can legally start without FULL planning permission. Can anyone tell us why after all this time of waiting this hasn't been put in?
It looks like a case off a lack of funds that have brought the project to a virtual stand still. The recent developments or lack of developments of the sale of Weldon Rd have probably brought the situation to crisis point imho.
I'm not saying that Cas won't get there new ground all im saying is that things are not what RW and his followers on here make out. You have some serious obstacles ahead if you want to progress, it's time to see reality!
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| Quote ="deeHell" Can anyone tell us why after all this time of waiting this hasn't been put in?'"
Yes. But we can't be d when reading any of the news stories of recent weeks would enable you to find out for yourself.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I think you will find that the diggers were working on a piece of land that will become available for commercial purposes. At this moment that land is provisionally ear marked for Castleford Tigers proposed new stadium. That situation can change at the drop of an hat! That is an uncomfortable fact that many on here will not accept. '"
Wrong, the land is there for a stadium, hotel, swimming baths and a NHS drop in centre - all attached to the ground (with exception of the hotel of course).
Quote ="deeHell"No matter how many diggers you see buzzing around that particular piece of land, it will be nothing to do with the construction of the proposed new stadium. No construction can legally start without FULL planning permission. Can anyone tell us why after all this time of waiting this hasn't been put in?'"
Well done, the diggers are still flattening the land because if you never noticed, it was a hill (and still has a fair bit to go), full planning permission will go in once it's flattened I should imagine.
Quote ="deeHell"It looks like a case off a lack of funds that have brought the project to a virtual stand still. The recent developments or lack of developments of the sale of Weldon Rd have probably brought the situation to crisis point imho.'"
Captain state the obvious there's a lack of funds for one reason - the economy, which the local council have helped to bridge by giving both clubs land to secure loans against - funding gap...gone.
Quote ="deeHell"I'm not saying that Cas won't get there new ground all im saying is that things are not what RW and his followers on here make out. You have some serious obstacles ahead if you want to progress, it's time to see reality!'"
Richard Wright isn't making it out to be anything, the last statement he made on the clubs website said they're looking for architects and a lead engineer - the last step before full planning permission and foundations/construction, not anywhere has Richard Wright claimed that the stadium will be built over night, but it will be done before the next round of franchises.
But let's not let simple facts and published news articles get in the way of your rambling and conspiracy theories, eh?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"But let's not let simple facts and published news articles get in the way of your rambling and conspiracy theories, eh?'"
Or wishful thinking, for that matter...
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| Personally, I'm sick of all this fighting/arguing about whose stadium will be built first, where we both are with progress etc.
To me it is just the same as all the "rumours" going around about what players are coming/going.
With both situations I will believe what I see with my own eyes as and when it is OFFICIALLY announced, until then we are both in the same boat as far as I am concerned. We would both like a new stadium, we are both somewhere down the road towards getting one but how far we've got and how far is still to go is pure specualtion to all but a few people at either club.
Let's stop fighting over it and concentrate on supporting (hopefully) both our teams in the playoffs!
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Wrong, the land is there for a stadium, hotel, swimming baths and a NHS drop in centre - all attached to the ground (with exception of the hotel of course).
Well done, the diggers are still flattening the land because if you never noticed, it was a hill (and still has a fair bit to go), full planning permission will go in once it's flattened I should imagine.
Captain state the obvious
there's a lack of funds for one reason - the economy, which the local council have helped to bridge by giving both clubs land to secure loans against - funding gap...gone.
Richard Wright isn't making it out to be anything, the last statement he made on the clubs website said they're looking for architects and a lead engineer - the last step before full planning permission and foundations/construction, not anywhere has Richard Wright claimed that the stadium will be built over night, but it will be done before the next round of franchises.
But let's not let simple facts and published news articles get in the way of your rambling and conspiracy theories, eh?'"
That is what the land is proposed for yes. If no funding is forthcoming the land will eventually be used by some other business venture. Like it or not that's the reality of business.
You have had 2 years since outline planning permission has gone in. Now you admit that you have had funding problems despite many posters on here denying it over the last two years. In the view of recent events regarding the WR site what makes you think them problems are at an end? Do you really think this council land loan will be enough to build yourself a stadium alone? It seems at the moment that is your only source of collateral you have to build your ground.
What RW has talked about recently he was talking about 2 years ago! He publicly stated in 2006 that completion date would be October 2008.
All is not what it seems to me!
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| Quote ="chissitt"It seems to me Folly that you will say anything bar your prayers. First of all I would like to thank you for involving me in your argument. Do not confuse me with that idiot wakey fan who is determined to wind you up and I dont mean Mr Brown either. I would like you please to show on here where I have ever said anything detrimental about the proposed new ground for Cas if so I will apologise otherwise I would be grateful if you would refrain from spreading untrue rumours about me. I Wont hold my breath for an apology for I fear you are neither big enough or man enough to admit your wrong. As a matter of interest you might take up journalism you should do well I'm sure there is some backwater rag will employ you, when you grow up that is.'"
Chissitt: I will clarify what I meant for you. I wasn't meaning just in relation to this thread, I meant in general. I will apologise for bringing you into this specific argument about the stadium - yes, I am man enough thanks - but generally, you have been having an ongoing "forum war" with tigerman 1+1 for the past few weeks which is becoming tiresome.
Anyway, once again apologies for bringing you into this.
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| We can all keep saying our house is bigger than your house etc.... but the reality is that we both have from now until mar/apr 2011 when applications for the next batch of franchises are to be sent in to produce the goods......
The RFL have stated clearly that they will not accept if, whens and maybe's this time so both clubs need to have bricks laid or we both face the threat from clubs in the championship taking our spot........
Both camps can point to progress but lets be brutally honest here we both still have a long way to go and time is running out and running out fast......
So lets look at this as clearly as we can.... if both clubs continue to go down the DIY track the likelyhood is that neither club or at the very least one of the clubs will not get their respective stadia....i would not speculate which as I have no idea except to say i do believe neither club will manage to make it before the deadline.... this leads to the discussion of a shared stadia which I personally see as the fastest and most secure way to ensure both clubs survival in SL
The council would be behind it and jointly I think the two clubs could raise enough finance to get a stadium built in time..... the point however is simply this...could the two clubs put aside their differences in the next few months and get this thing really moving or will they both continue to believe that shangrila can be achieved singularly and end up in the wilderness for years and years, wakey fans will remember those years and would feel very agrieved to lose all the good work done whilst they have been in SL simply because they could not share a patch of grass on alternate weekends and similarly for me as a Cas fan I hated NL1 and would never want to experience those feelings of what happens to us if we dont win the GF and get promoted
The truth is I support Cas Tigers and if they play their games at Cas Panthers, Westgate, Barnsley or Edinburgh I would be there because I support my team so if I could guarantee that Cas would stay in Sl by playing in a stadium that my local neighbours played in every alternative week then who cares ....
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| Quote The truth is I support Cas Tigers and if they play their games at Cas Panthers, Westgate, Barnsley or Edinburgh I would be there because I support my team so if I could guarantee that Cas would stay in Sl by playing in a stadium that my local neighbours played in every alternative week then who cares ....
You were doing ok until then
I think thats a bit far to go
But very well put
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| The truth is I support Cas Tigers and if they play their games at Cas Panthers, Westgate, Barnsley or Edinburgh I would be there because I support my team so if I could guarantee that Cas would stay in Sl by playing in a stadium that my local neighbours played in every alternative week then who cares ....
You were doing ok until then I think thats a bit far to go
But very well put
I do a lot of work up in Scotland most weeks so it would benefit me if we did play in Edinburgh.....
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| Quote ="Fully"Chissitt: I will clarify what I meant for you. I wasn't meaning just in relation to this thread, I meant in general. I will apologise for bringing you into this specific argument about the stadium - yes, I am man enough thanks - but generally, you have been having an ongoing "forum war" with tigerman 1+1 for the past few weeks which is becoming tiresome.
Anyway, once again apologies for bringing you into this.'"
If you think this ongoing forum war with tigerman11 is tiresome for you then please spare a thought for me having to defend myself from the bile and vitriol what spews from his mouth everytime I make a post. Paranoid is right I should be man enough to ignore it difficult as it may be. Btw thanks for the reply it is appreciated.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If you think this ongoing forum war with tigerman11 is tiresome for you then please spare a thought for me having to defend myself from the bile and vitriol what spews from his mouth everytime I make a post. Paranoid is right I should be man enough to ignore it difficult as it may be. Btw thanks for the reply it is appreciated.'"
Then it should be easy enough to overlook the tripe that is posted and instead to the responses from the sensible Cas fans.
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| OMG i havent even bothered replying to any of your pathetic posts on this subject and you still try and get a dig in, get a life you horn, my world doesnt revolove round you so please dont make yourself out to be some kind of saint in all this , dont come on a Cas site and expect EVERYONE to see your small minded, sarcastic posts about the club the fans etc etc and welcome you with open arms, your a troll nothing more and with that you should expect some dirt chucked back, if you dont like the name calling the replies, dont come on, i certainly dont twist your arm to come on here, just log off and stay on the waky site, its as simple as that, and it is exactly the same for me..simples really
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| And fully i will rehiterate i HAVENT posted anything concerning this thread directly towards chissit until now, infact i have had no real dealings in this thread except lighthearted posts and then you bring this up, why your the one on this thread playing post tennis with him NOT ME so why even bring me into the debate, wind yer neck in mate and leave me out of it thanks.......
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| Quote ="tigerman1+1"And fully i will rehiterate i HAVENT posted anything concerning this thread directly towards chissit until now, infact i have had no real dealings in this thread except lighthearted posts and then you bring this up, why your the one on this thread playing post tennis with him NOT ME so why even bring me into the debate, wind yer neck in mate and leave me out of it thanks.......'"
Er. Where in my post did I mention anything about this thread in relation to you? I said "forum war" which means every thread.
Quite frankly, you're both as bad as each other and should learn to ignore each other and stop ruining half-decent threads with your claptrap.
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| And once again your the one degenerating this thread because the last 3-4 posts would not have been posted if you hadnt spouted off,
[uI will apologise for bringing you into this specific argument about the stadium[/u - yes, I am man enough thanks - but generally, you have been having an ongoing "forum war" with tigerman 1+1 for the past few weeks which is becoming tiresome.
[uAnyway, once again apologies for bringing you into this. [/u
you didn’t bring him into it he posted on his own didn’t he...
and you apologise for bringing him into this????
I wonder if I will be given the same privilege I wont hold my breath
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| Er, no. And I'm not going to reply to you anymore on this thread.
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| a true man is one who can say sorry, im just sorry you cant. Dont ever reply to a post i ever make thats fine, any chance of mirroring that thought to chissit and we wont have the need for you putting needless posts derailing threads.
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| So you give no insults, cool and where have i ever posted you have to run anything past me before, jesus are you a politition because you seem to have a knack for lying. IF and only if you read the post again you will read that no-one twists your arm to come on here, if you cant take it dont dish it out, and as for my mother and father no they havent divorced but at least i can point my father out, unlike yourself.
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| Another thread turned into a slanging match, how long before this gets locked eh
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if people cannot post without insulting one another, it is locked and if they carry on they will be taking a time out from the forum
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