Not wanting to get dragged into your quarrel here, but isnt one the 'desirables' from the RFL for SL inclusion to have a good travelling support? Doesnt that make the television spectacle that bit more appealing?

As such, making excuses for Cats, Quins, Celts not bringing supporters because its too far and too expensive doesnt really wear. Just ask TB (who I applaud for his dedication) about the difference in atmosphere between todays game and those against the aformentioned teams.

'Fraid not...

For trying to derail a thread about a classic Cup game of RL and a great performance by Fax into an attack on a totally separate club.

ps: This makes you and everyone else who's shown contempt for the efforts of both sets of players last night - by using them as simply an excuse to attack another club -muppets too.

hth

The responses from some people on both boards is embarassing. With regards to that other club - what's done is done and i'm sick to death of everything that happens in RL these days coming back to them. I wish people would let them get on with it - post your diatribe after they've had three years in SL. As each week passes i want them to succeed. I want them to muzzle the rabid one-eyed Jacks who can't see further than the end of their club drive. Personally, i regard what the RFL have done as a wake up call to those lethargic clubs who bobble from one season to the next. Personally, i'd prefer P&R and the rewards that on-field success brings but like it or not, franchising is here and there are now other things that clubs must do and accept to progress, for the good of the game. I doubt very much that my own club would be progressing like they are doing without this impetus. Getting into SL is harder now - deal with it.

Actually old boy if you care to look at any post I have made on the game last night I have done nothing like show contempt, and I would for the next 20 years prefer to go to a game whether it be a cup tie or a league game with a team who bring a great away following like Fax did last night, if your happy to support expansion at the detriment of teams who can actually increase the overall crowd figures of the season, that’s fine. If you want to support a system that is supposed to increase the chance of local talent to come through but then allow a team made up of anything but. Then that’s ok. if your happy to travel to the south of France at least once a year (lets hope they don’t beat stains and we draw them away) and South Wales and London ok for you I suppose and then Scotland that’s fine but I know more who cant afford that than can, expansion at all costs, but not ours eh!, wait till the next franchise bid and a Scots team is brought in at our expense bet you will be as happy as Larry then... as I said explain to me what Celtic bring to SL that Fax couldn't. it wasn’t about derailing a thread I asked a simple question why were they Muppets and what do Celts bring that Fax couldn’t, as yet apart from your rantings and dummy spitting I am still awaiting a worthy response, maybe you could PM me with a reasoned answer to my question and we can keep the thread on track. Thank you TM1+1

dear boy

tbh on a thread about last night's game I'm only interested in talking about last night's game - and the fantastic contribution of Fax, both team and fans. I've no intention of talking about a club that wasn't involved in last night.

If you really want to know my views on expanding the game, or the licensing system, feel free to read my posts on any of the boringly immunerable tjreads rhere've been on the VT since 2005

We even did it this season, honeybunch.

Hardly arrogant. I was responding to the arrogance of one of your lot, who was wondering what Celtic brought to the SL. Like you brought great things in your first season back up. Not. So what that you beat us and Leeds once. We played you more than once, or don't you remember that? All other SL clubs saw Cas as the whipping boys last season and that's because they were. So I would suggest some of your fans get off their high horses and remember last season just for a moment and encourage the Crusaders to their first win. Personally, I'd love to see them succeed. Just as I wanted to see Cas succeed last year. It's good to have a competitive league.

Like i said before when we finised bottom we were just 2 pooints behind Hull FC that is just one win. We did it with local youngsters in the side and Celtic are doing it with 2nd rate aussies right or wrong? Do you see celtic getting anywhere near 15 points this year?

Listen, before digging ever deeper, check tb's location.

Then ask if he's a season ticket holder at Cas.

Then keep twaddling on about travel if you want to make yourself look even more idiotic.

I'd love to draw Catalans away - March was windy and chilly

London ok for you I suppose

Do you actually read the bits that you want to read, or are you that profoundly stupid that you do but it doesn’t happen to stick in your dense cranium the point im making is that I and my family cannot afford to travel those distances and I wouldn’t travel without them because RL is a family sport and im the only one without a season ticket due to the shifts I work, more families and smaller groups would travel to closer games, thus boosting away support and thus attendances through the year. I will not be accused of hijacking a thread of this kind Halifax were superb last night and deserve all the plaudits they are getting, and I will not respond to any other comments and hope the mod’s tell anyone else to do the same. Please PM me with the only question I asked what do Celtic bring to SL that Halifax cannot.....I await your well constructed arguments.

Still got mine as well (although for some reason i struggle to get in it now!!

)

Delboy66(aye of the tigers fanzine)

As much as I thought Halifax were superb and probably the better side, you also have to bear in mind that we scored more tries than you and missed most of the conversions, so we could say that we would have won by more if Dixon/Sherwin had kicked the extra 2 points.