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| Facts that are facts, yes. Wakefield fans with an idiosyncratic hatred of other clubs and a bizarre need for reassurance that the projects of those clubs aren't going ahead simply making things up from 'bloke on forum' or 'bloke from pub' or 'bloke in my head' no.
It's very simple to claim to be well connected: I am best mates with Ted Richardson and Richard Wright, I know they're coming together to form a franchise club playing out of Barnsley as the South Yorkshire Trinity WildTigers, but they don't want to announce it until they've ratified it all with the RFL.
Simple solution: concentrate on Wakefield. Cas fans can concentrate on Cas. We can take the facts that are publicly available, rather than publishing hearsay. How's that?
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| Yeah but isn't that poster a shareholder in CTRLFC?
Yes i do "hate" Cas, and i wouldn't say its just Trin fans who have "idiosyncratic hatred of other clubs", our clubs/fans feed from this.
Why should i concentrate on Wakefield? That is my paramount interest but I have become very interested in some of the issues involved with stadium planning and development and keep a keen eye on both developments.- Both have problems but both can be resolved.
I still however stand by the prediction that WTW and CT will be playing out of The Wakefield Community Trust Stadium in 2012.
If the funding isn't there then a contract with the developers means sweet FA.
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| Fair dues, stand by your prediction. Trying to belittle other projects won't make them come true and unfortunately you're going to have to hold it in for at least another year before you're able to wet your pants.
I have no idea who 'Gloria' is, and frankly don't care. There are lots of minor shareholders in Cas, and they're not privy to all goings on in the organisation. A lot of companies give employees share options, do you think that gives them access to discussions in the board room? Of course not, and I doubt that's any difference at Cas or Wakey.
As for why you should concentrate on Wakey. You don't have to, I'm just guessing by your urgency to cream your pants over a Cas failure you'll do yourself mental and physical harm by caring so much and concocting trails of conspiracy theories in the run up to something actually happening.
Take this advice: be interested in how stadiums are built, issues regarding planning, design and whatever else, and be an interested onlooker. Take your information from published facts from official sources and add two and two together to make four. That way you'll learn more about the issues. And if you need information that isn't available online, go to the holders of that information rather than posting on a messageboard where nobody knows any more than you do in some attempt to stir up further conspiracy theories and misinformation.
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| Don't listen to a thing "Gloria" says it's just a petty minor shareholder who hates RW and is doing everything he can to get him out of the club, it's pathetic in all honesty.
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| Quote ="DJ KYLE THOM"Thing is, when xscape/freeport (junction32 outlet) got built with all the factories etc - the locals were promised a huge park with fishing lakes, water sports and lots more. Although some have taken jobs from it, what about the rest of us who have had to put up with a stupid amount of traffic ever since?
Also, what more has been done regarding the new swimming baths/surfworld place that's to be built up there?
All these things being built, lots of taxes for WMDC and what are we getting back?'"
You think that part of the xscape development included factories?
You think the council built xscape?
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| Didn't waystone say a few weeks back that the work will start spring 2011.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Didn't waystone say a few weeks back that the work will start spring 2011.'"
Yes, but because the Wakefield fans say it won't, it won't ok? you should know that ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Yes, but because the Wakefield fans say it won't, it won't ok? you should know that
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Oh yeah forgot about the wakey fans.
They seem to know everything about out stadium. oh well.
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| Christ i am getting fed up with all this stadium bickering. It will almost be a relief when next July comes around and both clubs know their fate. I still wouldn't be surprised if neither of us get what we want and Toulouse sneak in.
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| Quote ="pyeman"You think that part of the xscape development included factories?
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That'll be the coking works, obviously ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"
I never claimed we are ahead (yet) but come September when we get the nod for the outline bid the full bid will go in straight away, i believe your aiming for a Sept submission too. So on that basis the race will be tied and it will come down to funding. If the money is in place it will be built, if it's not it won't. Simples.
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I hope you get your stadium but I think you're being naive if you think the Council will say yes without referral anywhere else.
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Christ i am getting fed up with all this stadium bickering. It will almost be a relief when next July comes around and both clubs know their fate. I still wouldn't be surprised if neither of us get what we want and Toulouse sneak in.'"
I really hope you get a license and the new stadium end of !
But where are these plans your submitting ?? who has drawn them ?? how can they without knowing the conditions put on them at outline ?? im not being funny but please stop believing the spin ( and no i dont beleive all ours )
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| Quote ="binks"I really hope you get a license and the new stadium end of !
But where are these plans your submitting ?? who has drawn them ?? how can they without knowing the conditions put on them at outline ?? im not being funny but please stop believing the spin ( and no i dont beleive all ours )'"
Binksy im a Cas fan!
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| Quote ="pyeman"You think that part of the xscape development included factories?
You think the council built xscape?'"
No, the whole pit redevelopment promised jobs for the area and also the things i stated due to the extra traffic in the area.
The council are making a fortune in revenue from xscape and the shopping outlet, yet what have the locals got to show for it?
We've got a stupid amount of traffic in Glasshoughton now since the redevelopment and right at the top of my street, they've changed the entrance (ashton road) so that now i have to go into the edge of the traffic of asda.
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Erm, how is the council making revenue out of J32 and Xscape? They are both privately owned, not Council owned.
For example, Xscape is part of the X-Leisure Brand. PY Gerbeau is the company's Chief Executive.
And according to this site: www.realm.ltd.uk/junction-32/index.html, Junction 32 is owned by Hermes Real Estate.
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Erm, how is the council making revenue out of J32 and Xscape? They are both privately owned, not Council owned.
For example, Xscape is part of the X-Leisure Brand. PY Gerbeau is the company's Chief Executive.
And according to this site: www.realm.ltd.uk/junction-32/index.html, Junction 32 is owned by Hermes Real Estate.
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| Oh right, so the council don't charge business rates etc? I must be wrong then, forgive me for thinking that the council of the countries most visited attraction is making money from it.
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Quote ="Fully"Erm, how is the council making revenue out of J32 and Xscape? They are both privately owned, not Council owned.
For example, Xscape is part of the X-Leisure Brand. PY Gerbeau is the company's Chief Executive.
And according to this site: www.realm.ltd.uk/junction-32/index.html, Junction 32 is owned by Hermes Real Estate.'"
Business rates.
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Quote ="Fully"Erm, how is the council making revenue out of J32 and Xscape? They are both privately owned, not Council owned.
For example, Xscape is part of the X-Leisure Brand. PY Gerbeau is the company's Chief Executive.
And according to this site: www.realm.ltd.uk/junction-32/index.html, Junction 32 is owned by Hermes Real Estate.'"
Business rates.
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| I would have said go view the original plans at the shed thats still there from when xscape was being built but it's now a car wash. This is at the side of the xscape building down from advance/xcars. It stated all the things that wmdc were promising the locals and also the new housing area/lakes and loads more on the old prince of wales pit site.
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| Quote ="poppys mum"Oh yeah forgot about the wakey fans.
They seem to know everything about out stadium. oh well.'"
We only know what old gasbag tells us when he is on our board everyday waxing lyrical about it ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="DJ KYLE THOM"Oh right, so the council don't charge business rates etc? I must be wrong then, forgive me for thinking that the council of the countries most visited attraction is making money from it.'"
Fair enough, I apologise.
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| Has it been decided whether the stadium will be a phased build as previously mentioned or a complete build as initially proposed?
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Has it been decided whether the stadium will be a phased build as previously mentioned or a complete build as initially proposed?'"
Reading between the lines it will be a phased build.
Fully will know more about this.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Has it been decided whether the stadium will be a phased build as previously mentioned or a complete build as initially proposed?'"
I don't think Sandal Wild Cat has decided yet. Info will probably be [url=http://viewforum.php?f=33here[/url though.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Has it been decided whether the stadium will be a phased build as previously mentioned or a complete build as initially proposed?'"
from what i have been told it will be phased but the original build will be three sides with a capacity of 12k with the option to a 4th stand at a later date.im excited to see what they have come up with and tbh i dont think we are in a position to be too choosy and the quicker we all agree these plans are fine the better.
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