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| Quote ="rhinoms"Not a good sign when yer team are arguing among themselves,westerman was well p#ssed off.
2nd half we blew you away and although you've had a decent season and can still make the play-offs mcgoldrick is a waste of space and how hudson is your captain is beyond me.
P.s What number was ryan boyle in the reserve match???'"
Number 8.Short blonde hair.Decent size about him
We got there for the start of the second half and he played the full 40.Not sure about his game time in the 1st half.
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| *SIGH*
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Yup that's it, one heavy defeat, sack the coach. Are we Norwich City or something? Just ignore the fact that we're still in the top 8 - miles ahead of where any average coach would have taken us.
You forget, Leeds are champions, the only thing we hold is the wooden spoon'"
One heavy defeat???? have you seen our points difference...call it the 3 worst defeats of any team in SL this year!!!!
Out of 12 teams..we just happen to have all 3 worst scores!!! wake up and smell the coffee....somethings wrong, very wrong!!
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| Quote ="the_grobs"One heavy defeat???? have you seen our points difference...call it the 3 worst defeats of any team in SL this year!!!!
Out of 12 teams..we just happen to have all 3 worst scores!!! wake up and smell the coffee....somethings wrong, very wrong!!'"
Well if for you the table is decided on scoring points difference, then I guess there is an issue. Personally, I'll concentrate on the final figure in the table, the one that puts us ahead of seven other teams in the table - something we haven't had since 2000...
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Well if for you the table is decided on scoring points difference, then I guess there is an issue. Personally, I'll concentrate on the final figure in the table, the one that puts us ahead of seven other teams in the table - something we haven't had since 2000...'"
Whilst I do agree that league position is the most important thing it is always gutting/embarrasing/frustrating to be on the end of a thrashing. Still, at least yours was only at Leeds. Went from Leigh to Barrow 2 weeks ago an we lost 74 - 6!
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| Quote ="NormyCasTiger"*SIGH*
Widders at 6 aswell 0.o'"
The reason we died on our backsides against Hull KR in the second half was because goldy at stand off was none existant. Chase was marked out of the game which created gaps on the field for other people that even I could have got through.
You have to give TM some credit for spotting this and trying to do something about it but Googie at stand off???? Come on! He has a good turn of pace for a forward but not for a stand off!
Wouldn't it have been better to play Westy at standoff, move Hudson to loose and play Netherton at hooker? Or..... get Brierley on the pitch!
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| Your lot didn't really turn up last night and, coupled with a horrific refereeing display by Thaler, it didn't make for good watching.
Scoreline pretty much tells the tale, although is rather flattering to Leeds as there were at least 4 of their scores which came from decisions that just made me speechless. That'd still make about 10 scores to 2 though, but I'd probably be rather pi$$ed off if I were a Cas fan both with the team that gave up in the second half, and with Thaler's ineptitude.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Well if for you the table is decided on scoring points difference, then I guess there is an issue. Personally, I'll concentrate on the final figure in the table, the one that puts us ahead of seven other teams in the table - something we haven't had since 2000...'"
Keep in mind that mid table is pretty tight and our final position in the table could well be decided on points difference.
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| I'm glad I didn't go last night.
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| Quote ="the_grobs"Keep in mind that mid table is pretty tight and our final position in the table could well be decided on points difference.'"
A draw against Wigan would be as good as a win for us because our points difference is so shocking!
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| Quote ="yougengis"Your lot didn't really turn up last night and, coupled with a horrific refereeing display by Thaler, it didn't make for good watching.
Scoreline pretty much tells the tale, although is rather flattering to Leeds as there were at least 4 of their scores which came from decisions that just made me speechless. That'd still make about 10 scores to 2 though, but I'd probably be rather pi$$ed off if I were a Cas fan both with the team that gave up in the second half, and with Thaler's ineptitude.'"
suppose refs are why your bag of sh*te are near bottom too
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Do Hull KR fans hate Leeds or are Cas there second team, you guys seem more upset than we do
Thanks for your support though.'"
As a Rovers fan i'd have to say yes you are my 2nd team only because the wife supports you and it makes my life a whole lot easier .
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| Top and bottom of it was that we were absoloutely aweful and Leeds are coming into form for the run-in. We have to write it off as a bad day at the office and move on.
Leeds were far too fast for us, and although in the first half our forwards stood up to them, our backs were so weak and slow. Wainwright showed to me why people think he doesn't deserve a contract as he was constantly out of position and McGuire only had to run along the line, he was drawn in, the ball would go out to Smith or Donald and they had a 2 man overlap.
Senior was on form, Hall against Ford was never a fair match up as other than pace, Ford showed again he was out of his depth unfortunately, he made far too many errors for a Super League player. I know it is harsh to single out a particular player as everyone was shocking, as the number of errors coming from our own line was pathetic.
However credit to Leeds, they played very well, and although by the end of the game they didn't need to do too much to score, some of their handling was absolute class and the speed of play was outstanding.
You never know, this may either bring out a good response for the run in as they should be determined to put it right for the fans from the players or they may capitulate and our season could be over. Either way, I really hope tonight showed we need to improve the squad next year, and it won't be acceptable to just bring in a couple of average players as seems to be the case, we need to bring in several quality players to even think of competing.
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| Quote ="The Doctor"Top and bottom of it was that we were absoloutely aweful and Leeds are coming into form for the run-in. We have to write it off as a bad day at the office and move on.
Leeds were far too fast for us, and although in the first half our forwards stood up to them, our backs were so weak and slow. Wainwright showed to me why people think he doesn't deserve a contract as he was constantly out of position and McGuire only had to run along the line, he was drawn in, the ball would go out to Smith or Donald and they had a 2 man overlap.
Senior was on form, Hall against Ford was never a fair match up as other than pace, Ford showed again he was out of his depth unfortunately, he made far too many errors for a Super League player.
However credit to Leeds, they played very well, and although by the end of the game they didn't need to do too much to score, some of their handling was absolute class and the speed of play was outstanding.
You never know, this may either bring out a good response for the run in from the players or they may capitulate and our season could be over. Either way, I really hope tonight showed we need to improve the squad next year, and it won't be acceptable to just bring in a couple of average players as seems to be the case, we need to bring in several quality players to even think of competing.'"
Agree with every word.
I was impressed when Ford chased back and almost caught Hall (i think??) i think i was about the only one applauding
I doubt we will see much of a response regards recruitment, they'll just see it as a bad day at the office and think what we have is enough..... When clearly it isn't
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| Quote ="yougengis"Your lot didn't really turn up last night and, coupled with a horrific refereeing display by Thaler, it didn't make for good watching.
Scoreline pretty much tells the tale, although is rather flattering to Leeds as there were at least 4 of their scores which came from decisions that just made me speechless. That'd still make about 10 scores to 2 though, but I'd probably be rather pi$$ed off if I were a Cas fan both with the team that gave up in the second half, and with Thaler's ineptitude.'"
Cas didn't turn up for one match......your lot have been AWOL all season.
If we had a choice we'd play you every week
Simply a bad day at the office for Cas....it happens....Good luck with the play offs Tigers
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| Quote ="The Doctor"Top and bottom of it was that we were absoloutely aweful and Leeds are coming into form for the run-in. We have to write it off as a bad day at the office and move on.
Leeds were far too fast for us, and although in the first half our forwards stood up to them, our backs were so weak and slow. Wainwright showed to me why people think he doesn't deserve a contract as he was constantly out of position and McGuire only had to run along the line, he was drawn in, the ball would go out to Smith or Donald and they had a 2 man overlap.
Senior was on form, Hall against Ford was never a fair match up as other than pace, Ford showed again he was out of his depth unfortunately, he made far too many errors for a Super League player. I know it is harsh to single out a particular player as everyone was shocking, as the number of errors coming from our own line was pathetic.
However credit to Leeds, they played very well, and although by the end of the game they didn't need to do too much to score, some of their handling was absolute class and the speed of play was outstanding.
You never know, this may either bring out a good response for the run in as they should be determined to put it right for the fans from the players or they may capitulate and our season could be over. Either way, I really hope tonight showed we need to improve the squad next year, and it won't be acceptable to just bring in a couple of average players as seems to be the case, we need to bring in several quality players to even think of competing.'"
great and fair report. all joking aside you lot have improved a great deal on last season and you can't ask for more than that. get a few more players in and try and improve next season. it's a slow journey,one step at a time. it could take another 4 or 5 seasons for you to challenge for the top 4 but i'm in no doubt you will get there. just be patient
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| Quote ="tad rhino"
it could take another 4 or 5 seasons for you to challenge for the top 4 but i'm in no doubt you will get there. just be patient'"
We might not be in SL in 4/5 years time
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| Quote ="poppys mum"We won't be in SL in 4/5 years time
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Edited for accuracy. I'm fast losing all modes of faith and patience.
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| Quote ="12noon"Holiday i have no idea. Team selection we were missing players, but that team did sound a bit odd. Half time we had already lost, but we shouldn't just collapse like that. Unable to defend our 20 line sometimes. And the common denominator yeah you are probably right.'"
It's simple, Cas only touched the ball around 3 times in that 2nd half. No one can win with possession like that. Also Kylie was fantastic and ran your forward ragged with brutal defense.
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| Quote ="yougengis"Your lot didn't really turn up last night and, coupled with a horrific refereeing display by Thaler, it didn't make for good watching.
Scoreline pretty much tells the tale, although is rather flattering to Leeds as there were at least 4 of their scores which came from decisions that just made me speechless. That'd still make about 10 scores to 2 though, but I'd probably be rather pi$$ed off if I were a Cas fan both with the team that gave up in the second half, and with Thaler's ineptitude.'"
It wasnt the ref that beat us, that was the worst we have played this season (you cant win a game if you knock on every time you get near you opponants line), but some of the descisions were certainly perplexing, going to watch the highlights before i comment too much.
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| Quote ="Oldham Rhino"Dean Widders - The new Mark Tookey
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| That just shouldn't have happened last night...but it did and it's unfathomable !
We were in relatively good form (apart from the HKR second half), we are in play off contention, points difference is critical, it was a local derby, there were 17,000 people there...and they threw the towel in !
It just doesn't make sense. On the whole team spirit has been good this year, there are times we have shown mental strength and all the good things that have happened this year, could have potentially been washed down the pan with an inept display and awful attitude shown by the players.
There's only one thing that can partly erase this debacle and that is to win against Wigan. If they fail to do that and show similar attitude problems, they will get 'crucified' next week. The season is in danger of fizzling out in the space of four games and send us all into a period of post-season disappointment. Any positivity that has been created this year, has been severely clouded with that 'performance' from the players.
My glass is half full, I'm positive, I do believe that BEFORE the Leeds game we had made substantial progress, we are still in with a shout of the play offs, but last night was very much out of character and aligns fears that there may be something more deep rooted.
There's no point us sulking, we can't do anything about our situation - the 17 players that play Wigan, Terry Matterson and the coaching staff have to close all doors this week, stick together and put the effort in against Wigan and get the 2pts. Defeat is not an option.
The players will get clapped off week in and week out if they give us effort. The attitude on offer yesterday from the players, will not be tolerated by supporters.
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