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| Quote ="baztiger"eusa_liar.gif'"
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| Quote ="toastymcb"If they denied that try for that reason then surely from this point on every video referee decision should start with the play the ball to see if it was played correctly?'"
Yes. As the rules are stated.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"You ought to get that lanced.
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| The frustrations continue!! We need better standards and greater consitency in our match officials. 2 weeks ago, the Thaler and Smith became the key talking point in what should have been a cracking game against the Wolves. Here we are, two weeks on, Bantham and Ganson have again become the key talking point for tonights game.
Hull KR's final try will stay in many rugby fans minds for many a year.....at what point is a player no longer in control of the ball? For how long, in time or distance, can a ball travel forward and a player still be regarded as in control of the ball? Have these set a new precedence for future rulings of the game? or just further examples of how inconsistant the standards of our match officials are....again as Cas's expense?
Rugby league fans deserve better!!!
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| Quote ="baztiger"i will when you go to Specsavers
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My mince pies are working fine, hand on the ball, pressure, try, get over it.
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| Quote ="the_grobs"The frustrations continue!! We need better standards and greater consitency in our match officials. 2 weeks ago, the Thaler and Smith became the key talking point in what should have been a cracking game against the Wolves. Here we are, two weeks on, Bantham and Ganson have again become the key talking point for tonights game.
Hull KR's final try will stay in many rugby fans minds for many a year.....at what point is a player no longer in control of the ball? For how long, in time or distance, can a ball travel forward and a player still be regarded as in control of the ball? Have these set a new precedence for future rulings of the game? or just further examples of how inconsistant the standards of our match officials are....again as Cas's expense?
Rugby league fans deserve better!!!'"
Rovers were on the other end of it at Wigan, O'Loughlin juggled the ball over the line after reaching back for the ball after being stood in an offside position, it happens, get over it, best of luck for next week, in fact I hope you win.
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| Feel for you guys - that last decision was scandalous, the RFL needs to sort out the officiating because it is getting poorer.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Had pressure on the ball, it's called a try.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"My mince pies are working fine, hand on the ball, pressure, try, get over it.
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=#8000FFShame by the rules of the game for it not to be a knock on he had to REGAIN possession before putting it down for a try, downward pressure is for a loose ball in the in goal area from a defensive error or kick - not your own knock on.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"I'm right though aren't I.
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no, it was never ever a try, even the player himself gave himself up when he slapped the ground in disgust when he missed the ball.
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| He didn't knock on. I've not read anything yet about the forward pass for one of Ainscough's tries, you remember, the one which also involved a blatant obstruction. Move on, Cas lost.
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"no, it was never ever a try, even the player himself gave himself up when he slapped the ground in disgust when he missed the ball.'"
Oh so now he missed the ball altogether? Typical Hull fan,thick as pig cack.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Rovers were on the other end of it at Wigan, O'Loughlin juggled the ball over the line after reaching back for the ball after being stood in an offside position, it happens, get over it, best of luck for next week, in fact I hope you win.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"He didn't knock on. I've not read anything yet about the forward pass for one of Ainscough's tries, you remember, the one which also involved a blatant obstruction. Move on, Cas lost.
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That wasn't obstruction. The man had already gone through and your man was already committed, hence try given.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Oh so now he missed the ball altogether? Typical Hull fan,thick as pig cack.'"
not just me saying he KNOCKED ON
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"He didn't knock on. I've not read anything yet about the forward pass for one of Ainscough's tries, you remember, the one which also involved a blatant obstruction. Move on, Cas lost.
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NO OBSTRUCTION, cant go to screen for forward pass,
see thread on VT fans from various clubs saying Watts try never was,
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| Quote ="baztiger"go fishing on your own board
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To be fair, I'm not fishing, I've said Cas were the better of the two teams on the night, and that Bentham had a poor game.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"He didn't knock on. I've not read anything yet about the forward pass for one of Ainscough's tries, you remember, the one which also involved a blatant obstruction. Move on, Cas lost.
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=#8000FFOk, while we're bringing up other decisions in the game:
Cockayne knocking the ball out of Ainscough's arms into touch + Ainscough tackled in the air by Welham - Hull KR head & feed - WRONG
Dobson knocks on an up & under, makes a break gets a good 70 yard - play on - WRONG
Watts incorrect play the ball & obstruction - try given - WRONG
Welham offside for Cockayne try - try given - WRONG
Newton elbows Higgins in the face - Hull KR penalty - WRONG
Ainscough disallowed try with no conclusive evidence - No try - WRONG
Oh and there was no obstruction on any Cas try, just dummy runners - big difference.
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"NO OBSTRUCTION, cant go to screen for forward pass,
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I know full well that they can't go to the VR for a forward pass, but I'd like to think a ref would consult with his assistant, who had obviously seen it, before passing the decision to the VR.
A bit like Silverwood picked up on the black and whites forward pass at the last televised derby game, you'll remember that won't you.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFOk, while we're bringing up other decisions in the game:
Cockayne knocking the ball out of Ainscough's arms into touch + Ainscough tackled in the air by Welham - Hull KR head & feed - WRONG
Dobson knocks on an up & under, makes a break gets a good 70 yard - play on - WRONG
Watts incorrect play the ball & obstruction - try given - WRONG
Welham offside for Cockayne try - try given - WRONG
Newton elbows Higgins in the face - Hull KR penalty - WRONG
Ainscough disallowed try with no conclusive evidence - No try - WRONG
Oh and there was no obstruction on any Cas try, just dummy runners - big difference.'"
Quite a biased slant to your observations there don't you think?
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"I know full well that they can't go to the VR for a forward pass, but I'd like to think a ref would consult with his assistant, who had obviously seen it, before passing the decision to the VR.
A bit like Silverwood picked up on the black and whites forward pass at the last televised derby game, you'll remember that won't you.
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the derby game between us is IRRELEVANT,
what matters is not the fact that Cas got beat the fact they got "done" by an atrocious video ref decision. END OF
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"the derby game between us is IRRELEVANT,
what matters is not the fact that Cas got beat the fact they got "done" by an atrocious video ref decision. END OF'"
This game to a Hull fan is also irrelevant, in fact what are you doing here?
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| Just food for thought. In normal play, if a man looses control of the ball in a forward direction....yet recovered it just as it hit the ground...that's a knock on isn't it?? Perhaps in the field of play is different from the try scoring area....who knows??
Plenty of positives there Cas, plenty of season ahead yet! C'mon Cas!!!
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Quite a biased slant to your observations there don't you think?'"
=#8040FFNo seems by the letter of the law, all of them are correct, like (both teams) should have been penalised far more for offisde & holding down. Or in one case, Bentham telling a Hull KR player to "watch those knees" in the tackle when again, by the laws of the game use of the knees is a penalty and card not a warning on the run.
Quote ="the_grobs"Just food for thought. In normal play, if a man looses control of the ball in a forward direction....yet recovered it just as it hit the ground...that's a knock on isn't it?? Perhaps in the field of play is different from the try scoring area....who knows??'"
=#8000FFYes it would be a knock on in open play, and by the rules of the game is still a knock on in the in goal area because losing possession and then touching the ball with the side of your hand at the SAME TIME it hits the floor, is a knock on.
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