A block on the signing of overseas players for the next 10 years would be a sure fire way to get Cas in the top 8. This is why the club have no money , second rate Aussies on massive contracts , sucking the life out of Cas tigers.

to be fair....you guys are already thinking of next season.
Blame the RFL - nothing to play for. BUT Widnes, playing at home, and really would not like to finish bottom of the table (a pride thing). IF there was relegation, doubt the scoreline would have been 10-40.
KEEP THE FAITH.

Just when I think results can't get any worse, that pathetic display tops it tonight! I have always been willing to give Millward a chance, but the dross that is being served up is deteriorating on a week by week basis. If Millward can't get the team to play, then he should go now and let us get someone else in. What have we to lose? We can't get any worse than this!

I absolutely agree! Myself and my wife were just saying exactly the same. There are 4 Season tickets in our house, plus 50% of away games.....and frankly speaking, with the way the club is going I can't help thinking...I've got better uses for my time and money next year.

I havn't been on this Forum for some time but I so upset and gutted by what iv'e seen tonight that i have to vent my frustration somewhere and seeing as the wifes gone to bed sick of listening to me here I ended up.

Since I Started watching Cas in the mid 80s i do not remember a team with such a lack of passion for the shirt, ok we can blame the coach but alot of these lads are cas lads and should want to bleed for the club, i know if i was lucky enough to have the chance of wearing that shirt then i wouldn't be In such poor physical shape with my hands on my hips blowing out of my backside after only 10 minutes on the pitch especially in my late teens early twenties. Who the hell is responsible for the conditioning of these players?

I know i may be a little harsh on some as they do from time to time put in the big hit which makes them cult hero's in some peoples eyes but that isn't good enough. We seriously need a change at the top to stoke up the fire in these lads bellies again as we saw last year and parts of this that they can do it, the last thing we need is their heads turning ala clarke.

The reality is tonight we were well beaten by a team that would struggle to be in the top half of the championship which i am afraid we are heading if changes arn't made soon.

Rant over.


Lee

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Keep the faith?

Many of us have lost faith in Millward and the team, what a clown he is.

Whilst that set of players were completely useless, at least they put some effort in, especially towards the end of the season.

I thought after the performance away at London we couldn't get any worse. I was wrong.

Apologies to Wakefield fans who want to come on here and give us genuine banter, but saw the horrific scenes and choose to stay away from sticking the boot in.

Worse than 04 ? I'll never see a side that bad.

The bod, basil or even the tea lady has nothing to do with such a half d performance from the players (Orr, Huby, Jordy apart). Waste of space tonight. IF the rumours from some 'in the know' are to be believed and the players don't like millward that is not even half a reason to go out onto the pitch play like a bunch of U12's

Some members of the squad are showing themselves up to be weak on a regular basis and the blame for such a pathetic showing lies with them and nobody else !!!!

The 04 side were better :\

I'm tending to agree!! And our stats are certainly comparable to that of 2004.

Unfortunately I can't see us getting 12pts this season though!!

2004

Pld 28 W 6 D 0 L 22 PF 515 PA 924 PD −409 Pts12

I know alot of you fans don't seem to like Millward but he can only use the players available but as fans do you think the players last night are good enough for S/L and If they were all available to leave how may other clubs would take them on ? Fact is Cas are building for next season although they are not going to say that as they need people to keep watching this season

That's been our motto/excuse every year for god knows how long!!

Probably but the 2007 NL1 side definitely was......so I'm amazed that people are actually shocked by what happened last night. The Widnes 17 had better balance and better players most of whom were occupying their preferred/normal positions. Without Chase we will almost certainly finish below them.

But somebody has to be at the bottom end and in today's SL that will inevitably be the smallest (in terms of income/investment) ie US.

He has essentially the same squad that finished 9th last year with an injury count that went into the double digits and when it was fully fit was top 2 in the league so you can't blame the players for the coaches failings this year.

Ryan Hudson is not a second rate Aussie on a massive contract
Nick Youngquest has been one of our better players this season and I doubt he's on a massive contract
What do you have against overseas players? If they improve what we currently have, I don't care if they come from the moon!!!

He has essentially the same squad that finished 9th last year with an injury count that went into the double digits and when it was fully fit was top 2 in the league so you can't blame the players for the coaches failings this year.

Gronk. I take it from your post you don't like Millward. But as a supporter of your club do you think any other S/L club would sign most of that team that played last night and I take my hat off to your club for having the courage to suspend your best player when every man and his dog know you are not very good without him ( at the moment anyway)

am a loyal supporter but what ive seen latley at cas even im getting fed up with this team.no 1 seems to care about the club or the FANS any more.the passion seem to have gone.some of our players are on big money but you would not think so.last night if id had been in on my own id have turned the TV OFF .a club of our standing should be doing better than this.fans will be turning away from watching cas as they wont pay to come through the tunstils to watch the crap we are playing week after week.lets get rid of players who dont WONT to play for CAS any more and lets get some players WHO do want to PULL A CAS SHIRT ON and play for the Club and for US THE FANS.

Youngquest, Thompson, Huby, Emmitt, Milner & Snitch would all get regular game time at most other teams in the league Ferres has supposedly somehow got himself a deal at Huddersfield, Williams got some playing time at Warrington. Orr would probably get into a few teams still too despite his age.

Add in Chase & Clark that's 11 players (9 who played last night) who you could see getting into more Super League teams than they wouldn't get into.

Snitch? Are you serious. I took you for a knowledgeable poster Gronk but Snitch is just a powder puff tackling, penalty conceding machine. Williams looks over-weight (especially after he got caught by Patrick Ah-Van) and Orr is aonly good for 20 minute spells.

I cannot see most S/L clubs coming in for them except Milner. Huby been injured so give him time to get better again but come on If you say most clubs we will take Wigan ST Helen's and Warrington out and your saying the rest would be interested Lets face it from an outsider lookin in most of the players have not got a professional attitude and don't like been told what to do Millward will change that even if it means a full clear out and I can see it coming ( alot will depend and the clubs decision regarding chase outcome ). These some big changes coming in S/L stick together get better and dont give the RFL any excuse to move you

Surely there are better young local lads than some of the overseas players youv got. You may as well get shut and put some local lads in im sure they wouldnt do any worse

Who are our overseas players? McGoldrick has gone. Youngquest has been one of our better players (my god that is a worrying fact) & Grant Millington, that being said, he is atrocious, so i'll agree with you on that.

i believe hudson has a lot to offer and we could have done with him out there at times this year in the middle of our defence. I do understand he is on a big contract ......but not millwards doing.
Mcgoldrick & and chase must be taking up almost half of cas wage bill , hence small squad and when we get a few knocks we are screwed.
I have seen nothing from millington to suggest he his any better than most average english forwards , chubbs is better and massey is as effective as millington from what ive seen. Ryan boyle is doing a good job for salford and was solid in their win v wire the other night.
Younquest has pace but often doesnt deal with high kicks and his defence is poor. Jamie foster is out of favour at saints and would be a better option imo , he a goal kicker too and I bet he would be cheaper that younquest.
Nothing against overseas players , but i feel for a club in cas tigers position , ie we cant afford the top ones who have played international or origin, we should stay well clear as we do not get value for money.