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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."This is exactly what has happened. JF is owed 2million, RW is owed 90k. Steve Ferres and Foz found a potential sponsor to the tune of 750k.SF explained to the board the sponsor would only part with the cash if it is to be used on developing the ground, signing players etc. They wouldn't part with the cash if the two directors were simply going to take the cash out. SF explained they could take the money out in time when the club was in a better place to do so. JF and RW weren't happy to do this. The rest we know. Don't ask me to name my source as I can't. But I can assure you this is correct. I don't blame either of them for leaving.'"
If this is true, it is disgaceful behaviour by JF and RW. Expecting the CEO and Commercial Manager to attract sponsors to the club in order to line their own pockets at this moment in time.
But , we will never know if it's true unless, as Tigerade says, the potential / lost sponsor blows the whistle on this bunch.
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| Quote ="bigalf"But , we will never know if it's true unless, as Tigerade says, the potential / lost sponsor blows the whistle on this bunch.
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Or when Foz blows the
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| Quote ="Tigerade"One thing for certain is we have dodged a bullet by not partnering with Eric France Metals. Wakey are 100K down on sponsorship money for this season and are now looking for a replacement sponsor. And we thought Probiz was dodgy.
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A bit of wishful thinking there old boy. Yes they have gone bust and they do owe us, but not 100k. The whole deal wasn't worth much more than that.
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| Quote ="vastman"A bit of wishful thinking there old boy. Yes they have gone bust and they do owe us, but not 100k. The whole deal wasn't worth much more than that.'"
Unfortunately Vasty, the club itself has been quoted saying that the collapse has left you with a six figure shortfall which could be anywhere upwards from £100,000. There were already rumours that you were heavily in debt again prior to EF going belly up. Tough times ahead for both our clubs by the looks of things.
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Of which some has already been paid.
Thats why it isn't 100k.
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Of which some has already been paid.
Thats why it isn't 100k.
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Quote ="Wildthing"
Of which some has already been paid.
Thats why it isn't 100k.'"
Ill believe ssn over you gadaffi, cheers
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Quote ="Wildthing"
Of which some has already been paid.
Thats why it isn't 100k.'"
Ill believe ssn over you gadaffi, cheers
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| The whole deal was circa 100K p.a. This deal was paid in monthly installments and the last 2 or probably now 3 i believe haven't been paid. So providing Wakey can get a replacement sponsor relatively quickly then the losses can be kept to a minimum. And as the EF deal wasn't actually that good there is a chance that some of the loss could be clawed back by securing a better overall deal.
Wakey have had wind of this for a while and AG has already intimated that talks have taken place on a replacement. Maybe Fozz has brought his contacts book with him.....
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| Quote ="Theboyem"The whole deal was circa 100K p.a. This deal was paid in monthly installments and the last 2 or probably now 3 i believe haven't been paid. So providing Wakey can get a replacement sponsor relatively quickly then the losses can be kept to a minimum. And as the EF deal wasn't actually that good there is a chance that some of the loss could be clawed back by securing a better overall deal.
Wakey have had wind of this for a while and AG has already intimated that talks have taken place on a replacement. Maybe Fozz has brought his contacts book with him.....
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If he had it will be no use to your lot, when you learn to read maybe.....
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| Quote ="Theboyem"The whole deal was circa 100K p.a. This deal was paid in monthly installments and the last 2 or probably now 3 i believe haven't been paid. So providing Wakey can get a replacement sponsor relatively quickly then the losses can be kept to a minimum. And as the EF deal wasn't actually that good there is a chance that some of the loss could be clawed back by securing a better overall deal.
Wakey have had wind of this for a while and AG has already intimated that talks have taken place on a replacement. Maybe Fozz has brought his contacts book with him.....
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Everything fine then aboard the good ship Trinity. Nothing to worry about.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"If he had it will be no use to your lot, when you learn to read maybe.....'"
Is that really the best comeback you could manage? Oh dear, standards really are low at that side of the common these days.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Everything fine then aboard the good ship Trinity. Nothing to worry about.'"
Short term there is a problem, no doubt. The club are around 30k down on what they had budgeted for theres going to be a gap. But the deal was made as we emerged from administration and needed to get back on our feet so we took a longer term deal with supposed guaranteed income. The ran until the end of next season. That hasn't worked out but since then our stock has risen and new contacts made that means a new deal is likely to be on better term so in the long term the money can be virtually recouped. Its just the funding gap now that is the issue, one which will probably be filled by a director loan from AG to be paid back out of the new deal.
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| Watts the point in taking any pleasure from Wakys main sponsor going under, or does it take the fans mind off the problems we are having at Cas.
All we can do is enjoy the performances on the pitch,... but if any one has large amounts off money they wont miss, get down to Welden road and you will be welcomed with open arms.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Ill believe ssn over you gadaffi, cheers'"
Oh dear.
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I've seen here, read it again "will be able to [size=150fulfil[/size their commitment of a significant six-figure sum.
The original deal was a SIX figure sum when signed at the start of last season. The deal was not very good anyway, unlike some we don't inflate our deals. It was about 125k if I recall most of which has been paid.
It's not great to lose it and it will sting but if you want to misread it as 100K knock yourself out.
Why are you so reasonable on our forum yet show off like a big kid to your daft mates on here, puzzles me.
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I've seen here, read it again "will be able to [size=150fulfil[/size their commitment of a significant six-figure sum.
The original deal was a SIX figure sum when signed at the start of last season. The deal was not very good anyway, unlike some we don't inflate our deals. It was about 125k if I recall most of which has been paid.
It's not great to lose it and it will sting but if you want to misread it as 100K knock yourself out.
Why are you so reasonable on our forum yet show off like a big kid to your daft mates on here, puzzles me.
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| You guys should follow his twitter. Hes said a few things about it this evening. For those without twitter:
'Individuals that hold Castleford Rugby League Club back must stand down from their positions. My reasons for leaving will be heard.'
'I want others to enjoy what I have over the last 20 years. I demand change at the Tigers for the games sake. Easy or hard - it's coming.'
'Evil prevails when good men fail to act.'
'My resignation was all I had left to bring about change to the Tigers. I desperately want to be there. But not as it is again now.'
'More resignations are coming next week.'
'I'd like everyone to see the letter that polar ford sent to jack Fulton. It paints the picture perfectly.'
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| Quote ="HKR Smithy"You guys should follow his twitter. Hes said a few things about it this evening. For those without twitter:
'Individuals that hold Castleford Rugby League Club back must stand down from their positions. My reasons for leaving will be heard.'
'I want others to enjoy what I have over the last 20 years. I demand change at the Tigers for the games sake. Easy or hard - it's coming.'
'Evil prevails when good men fail to act.'
'My resignation was all I had left to bring about change to the Tigers. I desperately want to be there. But not as it is again now.'
'More resignations are coming next week.'
'I'd like everyone to see the letter that polar ford sent to jack Fulton. It paints the picture perfectly.''"
Follow him mate but it doesn't make anything any clearer in my mind. All pretty frustrating for the Cas faithful.
On the field, we have reason for optimism.
Off the field, deflation and disappointment.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why are you so reasonable on our forum yet show off like a big kid to your daft mates on here, puzzles me.'"
I'll defend my club like anyone else on this forum particularly against the Wakey trolls who will do anything possible to de-rail a thread (thats not you either Vasty).
As for coming across as reasonable on the Wakey forum - if I didn't I would be shunned like Adeybull currently is on the Eric France topic simply for having his own opinion. You of all people know how hard it is to have an opinion that is "against the run-of-play". If you don't agree with the Wakey masses you are treat like a lepper and you know that from experience.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I'll defend my club like anyone else on this forum particularly against the Wakey trolls who will do anything possible to de-rail a thread (thats not you either Vasty).
As for coming across as reasonable on the Wakey forum - if I didn't I would be shunned like Adeybull currently is on the Eric France topic simply for having his own opinion. You of all people know how hard it is to have an opinion that is "against the run-of-play". If you don't agree with the Wakey masses you are treat like a lepper and you know that from experience.'"
Fair enough.
TBH I can't be bothered to dig at you or any club at the moment as I've never known the game in such a perilous state as it is now. Those clubs fans who think they are doing well should beware and that includes some Wakefield and Cas fans.
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| Totally agree. The game needs its fans now more than ever.
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| Quote ="Towns88"Follow him mate but it doesn't make anything any clearer in my mind. All pretty frustrating for the Cas faithful.
On the field, we have reason for optimism.
Off the field, deflation and disappointment.'"
Its sad that the best chance of finding anything out is from an ex-employee spilling rather than an informative statement from the Club. The fact they arent telling you anything will surely just make them look even worse when the facts finally come into the public domain from somewhere else.
As long as the fans stay together and support the blokes on the pitch thats the most important thing. How you deal with those at the club who are wronging you I dont really know unfortunately
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| If fozz has something he wants to make public he should do it instead of giving his cryptic tweets, he can't do any more harm to the club, & any one who has it in their head that Jack Fulton should, clear the clubs debt by forgoing his loans is living in Disney world, he has bankrolled the club for Millions over the last 20 years, with very little or no help from his fellow directors.
Fozzards tweets wont change any thing, i always thought off him as a real professional, but it reads like he has the monk on because he did not get his. own way.
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