Did it result in injury B2K ?

What did "Leeds" actually say?

Hardaker has now changed is mind. It wasn't an elbow according to his tweet.

Yes, legal or not Hardaker was unable to play the rest of the game

I agree Hardakers tweet was foolish, I've also read that McDermott wanted another look at it.

I wasn't at the press conference and just wanted to know what Leeds had claimed regarding the other things Disco mentioned?

Great Post

I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that the ref put the incident on report before he saw Hardakers tweet.

Wrong, I think you'll find the majority (and certainly myself) defending Sam Moa for a worse challenge last season.



Again, that is wrong - he has been charged with a "reckless shoulder charge" - now, I ask you this - how is Con Mika given NFA "making a legitimate attempt at a tackle" for his flying headbutt whilst Chase is charged for a reckless challenge where his feet are set and the attacking player has lost balance and falls into the challenge?

It isn't an anti-Cas thing, it's a consistency thing.



The RFL disciplinary system is FAR from robust and the rules are worded in a way in which they can be left open to interpretation

As for your comments about prejudicial hearings - there were 2 red cards this weekend, Rangi Chase getting taken out off the ball, a flying headbutt and Jamie Peacock ripping someones head off. Which tackle got the most attention? The one that the opposition & Sky kicked up a stink about, one that was deemed legal by the officials and that is the only one outside of the red cards that have been called up to face a ban, again, despite being deemed legal by the officials and no clear video of the incident.



He might not be soft but he's a typical Whino. Who like Luke Burgess with the team bus window incident, got proven wrong.

It's all noise Gronk.

Ask yourself this question - Cas and Wakey play each other; Justin Poore takes Chase out with a full-blooded hit, that *may* have involved contact with the head and leaves him dazed and confused on the floor. The referee is unsure what happened, so puts the incident on report to be looked at later.

Do you (and your fellow pitchfork wielders) say, "fair enough - it was a big hit," or do you expect Poore to be called to account for that tackle, so the disciplinary committee can have a look at it and hear his side of the story?

Calm down dear - this is about player welfare, not persecuting poor little innocent Rangi.

It wasn't put on report, the only signal Tim Roby gave was scrum, Castleford head & feed. Roby was also stood no more than 3 yards away from the incident and had a clear view of it, so are the committee questioning the ability of one of their full time officials?



If there's a worse challenge in the same week let off for a "legitimate" attempt at a tackle then it would be daft, just as this is now.

Does Chase also fall face first into the challenge due to breaking a previous tackle attempt?


If it's all about player welfare then:
Why is Con Mika not charged nor asked to "explain himself" - penalty given during the game
Why is Jamie Peacock not charged nor asked to "explain himself" - penalty given during the game
Why is Justin Poore not charged or even cited for standing on Withers head - no penalty given during the game and rightly so

But if it's all about "player welfare" then all those cases would have been called up.

Now stop trolling, as per usual.

So being the fair judge of a situation that you are Bren, what would you describe Hardacker's "he got me with his elbow" 2 days later "erm shoulder" Tweet? A lack of class? football esque drama to get the opposition in trouble?

Gets dropped by rangi.... He hit me with his elbow

Oh wait it's wasn't

Cowardly, soft, vindictive and an insult to a game normally played by men !!!

Enough about the drunken violent criminal Rangi Chase and his reputation for cowardly attacks to the heads of three quarters. What about hardaker?

The idea that Hardaker is some how to blame for Chase getting punished for hitting him in the head is only slightly less ridiculous than when Gareth Thomas got the blame for Cas being punished for their fans being homophobic.

No doubt those who want Chase bannned will be very quick to defend players of their club when they are up on charges for similar offences...or escape them.

Have you ever copped a tackle where you couldn't honestly say what hit you? I have. Hardaker saw arm, felt contact, saw stars. If he assumed elbow, saw footage and changed his mind, what's actually wrong with that?

This all seems a bit of a storm in a teacup to me. Disciplinary will look at an incident involving a possible high shot, in line with the rules. They'll review the footage they have and reacha conclusion. If they think it was a reckless high shot (note nobody's actually said it was deliberate) he'll get a short ban. A warning on technique is probably more likely given the footage on Sky was pretty inconclusive.

This somehow seems to have whipped up into a storm of persecution and vilification based on about 4 tweets from Hardaker and Fozzard and a couple of highly inconclusive stills (by inconclusive, I mean only that the one posted on here seem to show some contact, there is no way to say they are THE moment of impact, so they prove absolutely nothing at all either way).

As for Hardaker on any pro RL player being soft, I reckon if I ran at full tilt and stumbled head first in to Rangi chase's shoulder (whether he moved his shoulder towards my head or not) I'd know about it!

Whole thing's a non-issue. Even if he is found guilty, its of a reckless shoulder charge, not assault and battery.

Id be surprised if we didn’t see at least one player from every team cop a ban for a high shot or contact with the head before the end of the year.

Brilliant stuff.

So, if somebody was, let's say, assaulted in the street by someone they knew and wrote about it on twitter, that would be prejudicial and the assault therefore couldn't be prosecuted?

Fantastic.

Im going to rob the bank of England. If you wanna talk about how naughty I have been on twitter it will become a ‘prejudiced case’ and they wont be able to prosecute and we will get away with it. We can split it 50/50

I wouldn't bother, there'll be f**k all in there!

Got to admit he has a point Cas fans, it's not like the lad doesn't have previous.

Nothing wrong ??? I got hit by an elbow.... Oh wait it was a shoulder but no need to check simple facts on video before demonising a cellow pro...It's rangi chase he must be guilty because of a high shot in 2012 in a different game



Softacre got fairly banged and decided to lie about it, that much is obvious and IMO when chase gets found correctly innocent Softacre should be the one up on a charge !!!!

As I've already said, it was ill-judged and a symptom of the modern era; the instantanous nature of modern communications, together with its availability to the hard of thinking, means that this kind of thing happens all the time - this forum being a pefect example.

Regardless of the outcome of the disciplinary case, his club should be spoken to and asked to reinforce their social media policy and put him on notice to his future conduct. To suggest that it was part of a premeditated stitch-up job on Hardaker's part is something of a stretch.

I have to say that the over-reaction of some of you big girls blouses is cringeworthy; I'm sure that Chase loves that you love him so much, but he'd be embarassed to read some of the tripe on here.

It's to be hoped he dose not read the Waky forum