really, what rule did we break?...can you name it?

Salary cap. Recruited players in 2006 knowing full well you exceeded the cap but also knowing any points deduction would not be till 2007 hence you could buy your way to relegation safety - in turn not giving a monkeys about who your cheating relegated and whos jobs you lost. No way to be that.

9th April 2010 you took less to Huddersfield than you brought last night! Cant find up but sure there was a photo on Giants forum of your following.
As for people not liking us they didnt long before salary caps and Sam Tomkins!

I was at that game and there was definitely more than 50.

And wow, I thought some Wigan fans talked sense on the whole but some of them still believe they have a divine right to win every game. Quite amusing/disappointing in a sense.

Yeah we didn't take many to that Hudds game. We had around 9 players injured, then just a few days before the game Mr Chase & Mr Westerman were suspended due to excessive boozing. Thus it really was a hiding to nothing.

Generally speaking, we do travel pretty well. But on a Wednesday night, down rain, 11 out, 3 games in a week against the champs when its on tele? Come on, you'd have to be a little mad to go

Plus the long trip over there and the £20+ entry fee

Not by many!!

I certainly dont believe we have a devine right and I feared the worst going into last nights game as we have sometimes been out enthused at times and that certainley happened again last night. We showed against Huddersfield if we come out and run hard and strong and defend hard then we will dominate teams, but as last night showed we come out a little below that and teams can upset us and dominate us!

Now more than ever you have to win the ruck before you can play the open expansive rugby sometimes we try to just do the latter!

We wont miss you anyways mate

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Wigan will be better off due to this!

We didn't break any rules.........FACT, we reduced players contracts so that we did not go over the cap and allow us to sign Stuart Fielden. We DID NOT get punished for breaching the salary cap. We got punished for apparantley going against the spirit of the cap!

Wasting your time remember its only ever us who break the rules and cheat in the eyes of these. They were probably all against Hocks return despite serving his ban for using recreational drugs whilst cheering on Ryan Hudson!!

But we know people from Cas dont make sense! They "all hate Leeds Scum" but support Leeds United!!

Ok guys I think it's time we all grew up a bit, cut out the bitterness and sniping and kept threads on topic. There are plenty of unsavoury factors that both sets of fans can continue to dig up, but is it really worth it?

The salary cap debate, whatever your opinions on it, is in the past. Whilst the general belief amongst Cas fans, given Wigan's subsequent points deduction, is that we were the victims of it, it was a different regime and shouldn't be a cause for ongoing bitterness. It's unfortunate that it seems to rear its ugly head at least twice a year when we meet. All some of us really want is exactly what we've had this year - two great battles between two traditional RL rivals.

wrong sunshine,

we deferred payments. The RFL decided they didnt like it but did us for breaking the "spirit of the cap". All NRL clubs do it, but the RL didnt like it because it was wigan.

Not at the match today??

no, had to choose between this or Montpellier. So I chose Montpellier.

Ah! Glory supporter.

Technically, he's right then. To defer payments (or have to) you'd have to spend over the limit in the first place.

All this really makes me laugh,the salary cap was brought in to stop the mighty Wigan going bust and they've broken it more than anyone

Well said Bonzo we all really need to move on from this all happened 5 years ago. Now come on guys lets all be friends.

Bringing it back on topic. You should be proud of your cheerleaders the Castleford Claws for competing in the Bridlington beach rugby sevens it was 2 hand grab and they were the only girls team in the tournament. All monies raised have gone to the life for a kid charity. I believe there were 2 other Castleford teams there too. so well done to all for raising plenty of money.

no, you defer the year after so you dont go over, hence the word....defer!

Yes.....but why would you need to defer payments? Because without deferring payments you'd have been over the SC. It is simple to understand.

Care to make any more massive assumptions or sweeping generalisations for around 40,000 people IRC?

So you'd have no problem if Simon Moran decided he fancied Benji Marshall for the play-offs and would pay him £150k for a month's work, deferred over the next 60 years?

Well, it's deferred isn't it? Must be OK.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks!



Anyway, bored of Wigan now!

Well done Cas yesterday. No fancy or spectacular, but a great win in a tough week!