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| Regardless of where it start, if it hits the face and results in someone having to be taken off for treatment, it should be a ban.
Was at the game, thought it was bad. Saw the big screen highlights, thought it was bad. Image still shows me it's bad.
People were bagging Chase for the same last week. I expect the same level of hysteria and slagging off that Chase received.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Interesting, I didn't think any tackle on a player without the ball was fair, regardless of where the contact was?'"
He was already committed to the tackle and didn't have time to pull out.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Is it allowed to discus the game itself? And to comment that the score flattered us, and we came close several times to blowing it when it was in the balance? We were the better side...not by a country mile though, and I suspect had Chase been playing and given our own weakness in the halves, we would quite likely have been looking at a rather different result.'"
Disagree. Bulls were better defensively and the forwards made more yards. Once we went in 12-6 down playing with the slope I knew we were on to a loser.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I actually thought you were signifantly better, the play-the-ball was much faster and caused us problems all game. I think it is down to this that the Cas players lost their discipline, they could not cope with the speed of Bradford in posession.
Chase would have made a difference but he deserved not to be playing.'"
We were quicker at the ptb, and some of our offloads and kicks were pretty good. And our pack finally got on top. So I can see where you are coming from. And I never thought I'd see the day when Bulls were becoming known for their speed, must admit!
But that all comes to nothing if you can't turn that into points near the line, or make panicky decisions when a cool head and some patience would serve better. We got away with it today, since you didn't punish us for it, but we need to improve a fair bit in this department, IMO as we saw last week at Hull. I suspect our head coach will not be as happy as you might expect he would be - be interested to see what he has to say, though.
And sorry, on reflection that maybe reads as if I'm suggesting you weren't that hot. Not my intent - and you were far, far better than woeful Wakey two weeks ago. Until aboput 60 mins I was worried you would get back on top. Maybe I'm still surprised that we have a team to follow, and one that is perhaps doing better than many expected?
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| Given that our pack were 2nd best in the middle of the pitch i'd bring Emmitt & Fleming for next week.
How long is Mason out for?
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| I thought you were really good today, seemed to have seem real grunt and fight, and the physicality of all teams seems to have increased this year.
Although the best team won on the day, I was really impressed by Cas, and I wouldn't fancy facing Webster and Carney on a dry pitch. Both massive men, and Carney had some pace when he got in open space.
Apart from the top four clubs (I'm not sure I include Saints in that), I don't think there is much between an awful lot of teams.
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| Great to see Cas give it all in their cup final one week and get flogged by an average Bulls team the next! Still a disgrace.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I actually thought you were signifantly better, the play-the-ball was much faster and caused us problems all game. I think it is down to this that the Cas players lost their discipline, they could not cope with the speed of Bradford in posession.
Chase would have made a difference but he deserved not to be playing.'"
can i ask one question was you at the game or are you a tv supporter
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| Quote ="sgtwilko":vxsgt60wGreat to see Cas give it all in their cup final one week and get flogged by an average Bulls team the next! Still a disgrace.'"
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| If I was a Cas fan, I'd be questioning the players fitness.
At about the 55 minute mark most of the Cas team looked out on their feet. There was a point where Cas were in possession at that time and half the side were still walking back from behind the Bulls defence for 2 tackles.
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| Cas feeling sorry for themselves?
Surely not
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| Quote ="roger daly"Cas feeling sorry for themselves?
Surely not'"
No, the better team won.
Must be awful for you though coming on here fishing for bites when around ten/fifteen years ago you would have been exchanging views with fans who's sides were right at the top of the table.
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| Good response and you are probably right
Bet you wasn't expecting that
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"It was not the reason we lost the game, Bradford's speed playing the ball kept us on the back foot throughout and caused our indiscipline. I am also disappointed in Millward's post-match comments, for the first time this year we didn't show any kind of backbone once things got tough.
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To me the toughness was lacking from the start, if not the effort. Cas players should have steamed in when Scruton flattened O'Brien, whether ultimately it is proved late or not. It would have focussed attention on the tackle much more & given a message to the Bulls players about the consequences.
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| The physicality of the Cas performance has certainly gone up a few notches this year - we need a bit more flair in attack. When Chase is back we will be a different team to the one we saw last night.
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| For 60 mins thought we played as well as we did against Leeds. Undoubtedly missed Rangi as any team would but we were beaten in the forwards and that's where Millward needs to concentrate his efforts for improvement.
Still way better than last yrs shambles n a couple of flattering late tries shouldn't have us losing sight of that.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Great to see Cas give it all in their cup final one week and get flogged by an average Bulls team the next! Still a disgrace.'"
It is a disgrace. How can Leeds lose to such a poor outfit? I'd be demanding my money back from the Rhinos if I was you
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| Quote ="tigertot"To me the toughness was lacking from the start, if not the effort. Cas players should have steamed in when Scruton flattened O'Brien, whether ultimately it is proved late or not. It would have focussed attention on the tackle much more & given a message to the Bulls players about the consequences.'"
What? And had Ganson send one of our players off? No ta
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"If I was a Cas fan, I'd be questioning the players fitness.
At about the 55 minute mark most of the Cas team looked out on their feet. There was a point where Cas were in possession at that time and half the side were still walking back from behind the Bulls defence for 2 tackles.'"
Fitness is miles better this season. I see no reason to question that.
The reason we were walking back is we've come off an intense game against Leeds and made some costly errors in our own half that led to us defending our own line a lot. Without the ball, you get knackered.
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| Dominated for 80 mins.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Scruton should have been sent off in the 3rd minute too, stuff happens.'"
Why's that then?
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"But as we have found contact with the head (even if it is not the initial impact or intentional) is a disciplinary offence.'"
Whether Rangi was badly done to or not is another matter Scruton should have been penalised with a penalty and that's it.
Stop crying princess.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Remember Rangi had previous though for a very similar offence'"
Are you seriously comparing the tackle on Tangi Ropati with that last night?
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| Quote ="roger daly"Good response and you are probably right
Bet you wasn't expecting that'"
Wrong. Without the Man of Steel 2011 / our best player, with our dreadful record at Odsal, plus Bradford are a decent team, I had minimal optimism for yesterday. Didn't stop me going & supporting my team but deep down I expected a defeat.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Are you seriously comparing the tackle on Tangi Ropati with that last night?
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No, I was commenting that Rangi's ban for his tackle on Hardaker will have been longer because of his tackle on Roparti last season.
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