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| Quote ="deeHell"I agree Parker is a bit of a dart thrower with his predictions but he did call it right when you couldn't afford to keep Shenton and Westerman. History repeating itself again
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Except we offered both Shenton and Westerman new deals. Never mind, consistent as usual deeHell. Nice to see you back on the Cas forum, though. |
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Can we please get back to the original post, its a lot important than talking about them reprobates from up the road and giving that dillusional character summat to feed on. So have we anymore info on Rangi, as he got a court case and will he be back if he does have one.
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Other than the Sun, I can't see this report any where else.
It does not mean it is untrue though. Wording is all important in the press, it does not say he may have to go back, it says he must. It's hardly liable if this is wrong though. Just incorrect reporting. What would be liablous would be if there was no case at all.
Who knows what will happen, the lawyers may adjuorn, it could be a Tuesday appearance in which case, flight over on Sunday night, sleep appear, back on tuesday night sleep wed and thurs, train friday, pre match saturday and sunday well he maybe back to normal.
The closer to Friday the court date, the more concerning this story will be.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Other than the Sun, I can't see this report any where else.
It does not mean it is untrue though. Wording is all important in the press, it does not say he may have to go back, it says he must. It's hardly liable if this is wrong though. Just incorrect reporting. What would be liablous would be if there was no case at all.
Who knows what will happen, the lawyers may adjuorn, it could be a Tuesday appearance in which case, flight over on Sunday night, sleep appear, back on tuesday night sleep wed and thurs, train friday, pre match saturday and sunday well he maybe back to normal.
The closer to Friday the court date, the more concerning this story will be.'"
That's what worries me, if there is a court case and it is at the end of the week. We need to have a fully fit Rangi Chase firing on all cylinders next Sunday. |
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There is no way to tell until it happens though, if it was an early week appearance I imagine the Tigers would want him out there and rested already.
I suppose in the end if he don't turn up what are they going to do? Start extradition proceedings?
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Does Sydney not have lists of court hearings?
I've not seen any evidence to support The Sun's article yet other than forum postings. So at the moment, in my belief, I'm in the 'I'll believe it when I see it/hear it' camp
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Can't see it on Google, but then they may not publish them. Or only publish high profile ones.
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Shenton accepted less money at St Helens than Cas offered him to stay - decided to go to a side that were competing to win trophies and had a brand spanking new stadium on the horizon. As a Saints player no-one bats an eyelid if he's selected for the national side whereas whilst at Cas he knew he'd have to prove himself that extra bit more to get selected.
Whilstever we continue to play out of the dilapidated old ground we'll never generate the income to compete at the top table, which is the REAL reason why we need to get the new ground built and not simply to 'tick a box' for the purpose of the franchises. The same applies to Wakefield....
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| Quote ="Cecil B" As a Saints player no-one bats an eyelid if he's selected for the national side
And Imo thats where the problem with our national side lies.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Some grossly inflated figures there I think. I'm sure the club would have you think that. At the end of the day they can't say we need to sell our best players because we can't compete in the market place. The off season should be interesting I wonder what the excuse will be for selling Rangi
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In recent memory we have sold 1 player- westerman can even remember the last player cas sold before him.
You have sold-ferguson, pitts, atkins, brough, millard, obst, ellis, solomona
any i have missed?
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| Quote ="pyeman"In recent memory we have sold 1 player- westerman can even remember the last player cas sold before him.
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Apart from Dee Hell's normal psspoor trolling, this whole thread is based on an article in the Sun, sister paper of the News of the World, wtf?
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| Quote ="Fully"Although we didn't technically sell him, Michael Platt went for a fee to Bradford if I remember rightly. Didn't we insert a clause in his contract?'"
Something to do with him being under a certain age meant that we could get a transfer fee. It was only about £10k though wasn't it? |
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| Quote ="Fully"Although we didn't technically sell him, Michael Platt went for a fee to Bradford if I remember rightly. Didn't we insert a clause in his contract?'"
wnf is correct. The £10k figure was set by tribunal as the Bulls disputed the need for a fee, believing relegation to have rendered his contract to be invalid. A smart move from RW that one. |
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| Players like Rangi Chase are made for the big occasion (Danny Brough in the NL1 grand final anyone?) so if he is denied the chance to do what he does best against the biggest club in Yorkshire in Castleford Tigers biggest chance in a decade at the CC final then there is no justice.
Still no news from the club website which makes me think there are a few mind games going on here or at least I hope thats all it is!
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Assuming that this court appearance, if there is one, relates to the assault charge in 2008 then the Sydney court lists are irrelevant. The incident happened on the Gold Coast and it would therefore be heard in the Queensland courts. Rangi wouldn't be flying to Sydney to answer this charge, another bit of accurate reporting from the Sun.
As someone else has already posted, the original hearing was in Southport Magistrates Court and it follows, therefore, that any subsequent hearing would be in either Southport District Court or Brisbane Supreme Court. The lists are now online for Thursday 4 August and still no mention of Rangi, as there hasn't been all week.
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Assuming that this court appearance, if there is one, relates to the assault charge in 2008 then the Sydney court lists are irrelevant. The incident happened on the Gold Coast and it would therefore be heard in the Queensland courts. Rangi wouldn't be flying to Sydney to answer this charge, another bit of accurate reporting from the Sun.
As someone else has already posted, the original hearing was in Southport Magistrates Court and it follows, therefore, that any subsequent hearing would be in either Southport District Court or Brisbane Supreme Court. The lists are now online for Thursday 4 August and still no mention of Rangi, as there hasn't been all week.
Something decidedly fishy about this whole story if you ask me.
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| Quote ="bigmclargehuge"Players like Rangi Chase are made for the big occasion (Danny Brough in the NL1 grand final anyone?) so if he is denied the chance to do what he does best against the biggest club in Yorkshire in Castleford Tigers biggest chance in a decade at the CC final then there is no justice.Still no news from the club website which makes me think there are a few mind games going on here or at least I hope thats all it is!
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| Quote ="tb"Apart from Dee Hell's normal psspoor trolling, this whole thread is based on an article in the Sun, sister paper of the News of the World, wtf?'" Dee Hell maybe the phone tapper!! |
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I think the purpose of the court is to administer justice, and I don't think you get to not answer assault charges because you're a bit busy at work at the moment.
I still think there's something slightly odd about this story that doesn't quite ring true though.
I reckon they're planning to smuggle him into the Keepmoat in someone's kit bag and spring him on Leeds as a surprise at the last minute.
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To be fair, Leeds are preparing forhim to play and we're preparing to be without him.
Something is a bit odd about this whole situation but TM has stated they've known about this for a long time |
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Well, thats my cover blown!
I think this whole thing is a bit of smoke screen. Of course Rangi will play and Matterson knows it he just trying to play the guessing game to confuse Mcdermott ( not very hard). Think about it, the latest he is in court can be Friday tea time (early morning our time). A Friday Evening/Night flight will get you back Saturday tea time at worst. |
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| Quote ="deeHell"Well, thats my cover blown!
I think this whole thing is a bit of smoke screen. Of course Rangi will play and Matterson knows it he just trying to play the guessing game [size=150to confuse Mcdermott [/size( not very hard). Think about it, the latest he is in court can be Friday tea time (early morning our time). A Friday Evening/Night flight will get you back Saturday tea time at worst.'"
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| Quote ="El Diablo"[size=150I think the purpose of the court is to administer justice[/size, and I don't think you get to not answer assault charges because you're a bit busy at work at the moment.
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I reckon they're planning to smuggle him into the Keepmoat in someone's kit bag and spring him on Leeds as a surprise at the last minute.
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Well thanks for clearing that up! I was of course speaking meteorologically. 
I agree it does not ring true on the whole so I would expect that this has just been allowed to be blown out of proportion by the club in order to put a little doubt in Leeds collective minds and it seems to have worked if we are anything to go by.
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| Quote ="bigmclargehuge"Well thanks for clearing that up! I was of course speaking meteorologically.
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