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| 2 Sets of seven? I dont like to dwell on poor ref decisions but if true that is a tough one to take!
Life is too short anyway and like Matterson said its good that we have a short turn around to get back on the horse on friday.
Ok we are in a bit of a valley right now but even though Leeds have shown that they are no pushovers against Bradford I still feel we have it in us to give them a game.
UP THE TIGERS!!
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| Wow. Cracking performance from the referee. Lots of crap calls. Don't blame our players as we actually did very well and deserved the win for me. Not much you can do when the ref won't give any call your way. There's no bad feelings towards Saints, they're a good side and you know they can always nick it at the death. Gutted that they did it though.
How many times did Saints drop the ball and he'd give the decision their way? They even scored a try from a blatant knock on in my opinion (and many others). worst bit about this was the linesman actually laughing at the Cas fans for the decision. Did anyone even see the referee signal last tackle when he pulled Cas up for the hand over? Not a single player on the field did because no one played to it, on either side. We could go on I know we could. Saints are a good side but they honestly wouldn't have won without the calls today.
Well done Saints anyway, see you in the grand final for our revenge!
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| Quote Castleford coach Terry Matterson:
"We were the best side - outstanding - and have had it taken away from us.
"We were the better side out there today but did not get one call all game. Every week you get refereed a different way, it is very frustrating.
"We did not run out of gas, it was just that he kept putting petrol in their tank - that was the difference. '"
Seems Terry isn't too happy.
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| I have to applaud TM for showing restraint over the last few weeks. It would have been so easy to let fly.
We've really had the short straw with the refereeing of late and it has been a contributory factor in our recent run of form without a doubt.
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| The referee's think thay are the stars of the show.
The RFL need to get a grip and sort it out or fans will walk away.
You cant have referee's determine the result of games, unfortunatly this is happening.
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| Sorry about that. I really, really did think you were going to win today. It's cruel to lose like that. As others have said, I know how it feels from Friday.
I was disgusted that Bentham allowed the game to continue when Huby was down injured. We started booing him along with your fans. Had we had our heads on right we could have scored from that set while you were defending with 12 men. Totally wrong.
I sincerely hope we didn't have seven tackles awarded to us at any time during that match. It would take the gloss off the win somewhat if Bentham was unable to count. I don't tend to count the tackles, just wait for the five to go up. At least our forward pass was called, anyway!
All the best for your next match.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I sincerely hope we didn't have seven tackles awarded to us at any time during that match. It would take the gloss off the win somewhat if Bentham was unable to count. I don't tend to count the tackles, just wait for the five to go up. At least our forward pass was called, anyway!
All the best for your next match.'"
Yep you had 7 tackles on the last play but that's not counting the god knows how many other errors and penalties he missed. The ref was appalling today and it's starting to become a serious problem. Every week at least 1 coach is bringing up the same issues and nothing is happening.
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| Chubs has a Knee injury-know more in next few days.Hes at LGI now.
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| what about one of the the goals cas kicked...one touch judge had is flag up the other one had it down.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"what about one of the the goals cas kicked...one touch judge had is flag up the other one had it down.
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But that's not necessarily a wrong decision is it?
One think it goes over, one thinks it doesn't, the decision reverts to the referee who obviously believed it went over.
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| =#0080FFCan't believe there are Cas fans on here criticising the players. I can only assume they weren't actually at the game.
The players were fantastic today and deserved a win.
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| Quote ="Legionited"=#0080FFCan't believe there are Cas fans on here criticising the players. I can only assume they weren't actually at the game.
The players were fantastic today and deserved a win.'"
Fully agree but as saints did last friday you threw it away in the last 30 seconds
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| Quote ="Fully"But that's not necessarily a wrong decision is it?
One think it goes over, one thinks it doesn't, the decision reverts to the referee who obviously believed it went over.'"
well couldn't he have just given you 1 point then?
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| Quote ="Legionited"=#0080FFCan't believe there are Cas fans on here criticising the players. I can only assume they weren't actually at the game.
The players were fantastic today and deserved a win.'"
I listened on the radio and i am pleased with the effort the lads put in.
In contract to last Friday (i was furious), i was dissapointed but philosophical today....how many times have Saints done this in the past? (THAT try against Bradford springs to mind). However will we get to see the final set of 6 (or 7) on a highlights reel anywhere?
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| Quote ="Rommel"Fully agree but as saints did last friday you threw it away in the last 30 seconds
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=#0080FFI wouldn't say we threw anything away, that suggests that the team did something wrong or stopped playing. They were defending the line on several occasions and eventually the pressure on our line was too much.
I thought we were the better team for large parts of the game today, whereas on Friday we were never playing particularly well, even when we were winning. We didn't seem to get any of the 50/50 calls today, apart from perhaps the conversion (which looked over to me).
Anyway, very proud of the performance. Bring on the Rhinos.
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| Are we sure this 7 set stuff is right? I know there were a couple of incidents in the game where Cas mis counted and ended up not kicking on the last, one in particular where Orr went mad at the ref and should have been sent off as I heard exactly what he said to him. It got to the point where Bentham was passing him messages through Hudson(?) rather than speak to him directly, waving away any attempt from Orr to discuss it. I know on those two sets the ref got the count right as I'm an avid set counter myself when it's tight like that.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Are we sure this 7 set stuff is right? I know there were a couple of incidents in the game where Cas mis counted and ended up not kicking on the last, one in particular where Orr went mad at the ref and should have been sent off as I heard exactly what he said to him. It got to the point where Bentham was passing him messages through Hudson(?) rather than speak to him directly, waving away any attempt from Orr to discuss it. I know on those two sets the ref got the count right as I'm an avid set counter myself when it's tight like that.'"
What did he say that should've got him sent off then?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Are we sure this 7 set stuff is right?'"
Was confirmed on the radio about half an hour after the game finished, Saints got 2 7 tackle sets (including the winning try coming on the 7th tackle) and Cas got 2 sets where they were 1 short.
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| saint's threw 4 tries away with sloppy handling.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Was confirmed on the radio about half an hour after the game finished, Saints got 2 7 tackle sets (including the winning try coming on the 7th tackle) and Cas got 2 sets where they were 1 short.'"
Confirmed by who? Bloody shocking if true, Cas should formally complain.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Confirmed by who? Bloody shocking if true, Cas should formally complain.'"
I don't know where they got it from tbh but they were talking about the game and came out with "an interesting note just passed onto us....".
The RFL wouldn't do anything about it anyway, a few years back Adrian Lam scored the winning try on a 7th tackle against Wakefield and nothing came of it.
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| Quote ="Towns88"What did he say that should've got him sent off then?'"
He used an f word rather directly, then a p word ending in k and linked it all beautifully with a couple of f words. It was quite funny as one of the noisy Saints fans behind us who spends the whole game balling at the ref stood up and shouted, "Go on Danny lad you tell him".
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| I think I used that same choice of words myself at the ref today too. I'm losing my rag totally with some refereeing this season. It's the inconsistency and total randomness that is annoying me. Cas penalised at the scrum, for what I could only imagine was breaking away too soon. I then sat and watched every scrum and Saints were always out as the ball went in. I predicted it at one scrum, and a stranger in front of me watched for it to happen and it did, he asked why we didn't get a penalty that time. I've no idea to be honest. Penalise one, penalise all. I understand refs make mistakes, miss things and even get them wrong now and again but when games are decided with inconsistant decisions it's not even funny any more. I'll admit it wasn't a James Child kind of performance (not saying he cost us on friday cos he didn't) but it sure is a poor one from Bentham.
Shame innit? The match was a good un tbh.
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| cracking effort from both teams today, also appalled at the referee as he is a complete goon.... i think we need more referees in the mold of Ganson, Hicks and unfortunately Silverdud as at least they all have the balls to stand by the decisions they make, be it right or wrong... my inlaws are wire fans and were appalled by ben thaler's performance in their defeat against hull fc... but they also said that wire were pathetic with their handling too!!!
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| The try was not scored on the seventh tackle as the ref wiped the tackle count clean.
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