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| Quote ="bigalf"Ted Richarson LE today
" So far we have received about 14 cheques"
"We are probably going to have a winding-up hearing in February"'"
That's an understatement and a half.
I do feel sorry for the fans, their club as been run so poorly over the years that it puts them into this predicament.
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| Quote ="Junglefever"That's an understatement and a half.
I do feel sorry for the fans, their club as been run so poorly over the years that it puts them into this predicament.'"
I feel sorry for the Wakefield fans too. I hope they get out of it and someone who cares about the club is in charge.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I feel sorry for the Wakefield fans too. I hope they get out of it and someone who cares about the club is in charge.'"
Its always the fans that suffer and ITS a massive setback but its not the end, its the start of a new chapter.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"its not the end, its the start of a new chapter.'"
Don't be too sure BIGAL1
New chapter. Same book and characters.
Three directors of WTRLFC are also directors of a Company which appears not to be trading. The Company was incorporated Mid October 2009 - Just before the first Winding Up Order
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| Quote ="bigalf"Don't be too sure BIGAL1
New chapter. Same book and characters.
Three directors of WTRLFC are also directors of a Company which appears not to be trading. The Company was incorporated Mid October 2009 - Just before the first Winding Up Order'"
Typo I think, you mean mid-October 2010 I suspect?
There is nothing wrong (sort of) with having the phoenix ready to fly, but a new company with no money is just the same as an old company with no money... I think Ted wants out mate, but it would also be irresponsible if he just walked away, wouldn't it?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Typo I think, you mean mid-October 2010 I suspect?
There is nothing wrong (sort of) with having the phoenix ready to fly, but a new company with no money is just the same as an old company with no money... I think Ted wants out mate, but it would also be irresponsible if he just walked away, wouldn't it?'"
Incorporation Date 14th October 2009
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Typo I think, you mean mid-October 2010 I suspect?
There is nothing wrong (sort of) with having the phoenix ready to fly, but a new company with no money is just the same as an old company with no money... I think Ted wants out mate, but it would also be irresponsible if he just walked away, wouldn't it?'"
Oh if only IA could take over the Wildcats , the world would be a better places. The fairies would return to the bottom of my garden, wars would end and troops would exchange flowers and hugs, one big rainbow would stretch from pole to pole and famine would be gone with but of few crumbs of IAs wisdom.
If only the whole world could follow your righteous path they too could be saved like the Wildcats, they just need to open their eyes and see that the PROPHET has come. Who would have thought the second coming would happen in Wakefield and that the Messiah would be a rhino.
TRB the baptist has paved the way and anointed you IA as the saviour, now let none doubt any more, let us fall into line and be led to our salvation.
[size=50SMALL PRINT: No SL No Newmarket = crucifixion [/size
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| Quote ="bigalf"Incorporation Date 14th October 2009'"
Thanks for clarifying and sorry for ever doubting you!
I actual feel much better about that had it been 2010, it was clearly prompted by advisor's and/or advice at the time and maybe even by the RFL (pure speculation)? I still think Ted wants out (although his view in Oct 09 could have been different!) and not worried by a dormant company sitting there that may of may not be used.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Bless you my son, all your sins are forgiven and despite the unnatural demon of bitterness, hate and rage that currently posses your soul you still have the opportunity to sit at the right of the Rugby Gods along with their only son, Phil Clarke!'"
Phil Clarke is GOD
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| In the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)
Companies Court No 9875 of 2010
In the Matter of WAKEFIELD TRINITY RUGBY LEAGUE
FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
(Company Number 02623391)
and in the Matter of the Insolvency Act 1986
A Petition to wind up the above-named Company, Registration
Number 02623391, of Belle Vue, Doncaster Road, Wakefield, West
Yorkshire WF1 5HT, presented on 2 December 2010 by the
Commissioners for HM Revenue and Customs, of Bush House, Strand,
London WC2B 4RD, claiming to be Creditors of the Company, will
be heard at the Royal Courts of Justice, Strand, London WC2A 2LL,
on 2 February 2011, at 1030 hours (or as soon thereafter as the Petition
can be heard).
Any persons intending to appear on the hearing of the Petition
(whether to support or oppose it) must give notice of intention to do
so to the Petitioners or to their Solicitor in accordance with Rule 4.16
by 1600 hours on 1 February 2011.
The Petitioners’ Solicitor is the Solicitor to HM Revenue and Customs,
Solicitor’s Office, South West Wing, Bush House, Strand, London
WC2B 4RD, telephone 020 7438 4205. (Ref SLR 1040661/37.)
20 January 2011. (1285154)
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| Quote ="bigalf"In the High Court of Justice <snip> '"
So i guess that's what the money they are after is for.
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| Quote ="12noon"So i guess that's what the money they are after is for.'"
They did say this was expected, so they have not kept this a secret, it is just the case has been made public record and bigalf has posted it.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"They did say this was expected, so they have not kept this a secret, it is just the case has been made public record and bigalf has posted it.'"
aye up its the polecat warrior, you coming to build our stadium next
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| Quote ="Speedy"aye up its the polecat warrior, you coming to build our stadium next
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| taking my tiger head off for a min >
If the RFL dont come forward to offer assistance to wake ,as they did with quinns and crusaders this will be a disgrace.
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| Quote ="tttiger"taking my tiger head off for a min >
If the RFL dont come forward to offer assistance to wake ,as they did with quinns and crusaders this will be a disgrace.'"
They should offer to help but won't.
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| Are we sure they haven't?
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| Who cares ?
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| Quote ="tttiger"taking my tiger head off for a min >
If the RFL dont come forward to offer assistance to wake ,as they did with quinns and crusaders this will be a disgrace.'"
They did but Wakey have literally ZERO assets to secure any loan against, Crusaders used the Racecourse ground IIRC
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| Quote ="tb"Are we sure they haven't?'"
If they had done so surely we'd have heard about it and that they'd not be in the poop again.
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| And yet they have issued a comment saying they've been aware of Wakey's issues for months and been talking to them about what help they could offer, 'as they would with any struggling club'.
In fact, as they did with both Crusaders and Blackpool. The difference between those two cases was that Crusaders came up with a plan to survive and Blackpool didn't: in fact failed to respond by the deadline for inclusion in Championship 1. Wakefield could be anywhere on a scale between those two cases.
For instance: we know that the key part of the help to Crusaders given last year, around the time of the sale and move from Bridgend to Wrexham was seconding personnel to work in and with the club - they may well have offered that to Wakey and been refused, or it may not have been appropriate. We do know Wakey asked for a loan of £350k and were refused, while the Crusaders' debt to the RFL (£700k before administration according to the administrator's figures quoted in LE) has been converted into a loan secured via a mortgage on the Racecourse ground. But then, the mortgage means Crusaders are good for the debt, as its secured against property – is that the case with Wakey?
In essence: we don't know that the RFL have refused to help Wakey, or even that they haven't actually provided help - though we do know that they haven't loaned money to WTWRLFC: but then their own fans seem reluctant to do that.
On Quins, perhaps tttiger could let us know what help he thinks the RFL gave there?
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| I've kept my powder dry regarding the plight of Wakefield, as it's difficult to pass comment on a club I don't support and I don't know the ins and outs as well as their fans. So, at the risk of inviting brickbats from Wakey fans, here goes (and this is not an attempted wind up, just my point of view):
In my opinion, it may be that the best course of action for Wakey is to take the club into administration, take the points deduction and forego any license application in this round of applications. I know this will mean them dropping down to the Championship, but it would give them a clean slate and allow them to rebuild. It will obviously mean a huge hit to their revenue streams and doesn't solve the ground issue, but I think if they are able to follow the example of Widnes, who have managed to build at a steady rate and are now, almost certainly, ready for SL, Wakey could return stronger than before.
In addition, and probably more importantly from a Wakey fans point of view, it would mean the club surviving, if at a lower level, rather than going to the wall and disappearing forever. Nobody, no matter who you support, wants that. Having seen Cas play at Championship level for a couple of seasons, the rugby is still of good quality, the crowds are decent and the banter the same wherever you go. It may take 6 years to get back, but the club will still be alive and have the target of gaining a license to work towards.
As I say, it's just an opinion and there to be picked apart. I've just looked at it pragmatically and wondered what I would feel if it was Cas in Wakeys position. Have a team I love playing at a lower level, or no club at all.
I hope Wakey get their problems sorted and continue as a club. Nobody wants to see a major element of their community disappear.
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| It's plain to see Wakeys in the mire and i feel for the club and fans but a club is for the boot out of super duper league and i don't want it to be Cas. So if it keeps our top league status i can't be too bothered as would be the case if the boot was on the other foot.
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