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| Quote ="StuMain"Castleford Tigers have been fined £40,000 for unacceptable behaviour v Crusaders RL after homophobic chanting aimed at Gareth Thomas'"
Karma for all the things Cas fans have gotten away with since the 2004 slump.
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| (I do not agree with the comment the idiots chanted at player X)
I think cas have being use by the RFL as an scapegoat because of player X going to the papers and multiple TV show and using the clubs name and the RFL is use cas to send a message out to the world of rugby league.
And also if the rfl fine cas I think it is time for the rfl to look at the warrington v leeds game (lots more games) as you could clear here a 1 set of the shouting the referee is a ******.
And look at the time paul cooke move as across hull they was threats to the paul (on the field) and his family so the rfl action was nothing there yet a again.
Salford at cas last year a set of Salford fans throw a flare towards Richard owen and the match officals and the rfl action was nothing yet again
Lots of game when sean long played you can here lots of fan calling him a Gypsy
And also a few back at headingley lots of leeds from the south stand throw bottles at the cas fans and the rfl action was nothing yet again.
The only time the rfl as fined an other time was hull fc and hull kr fans got on the pitch and got to ther player and I think the club got fined £5,000.
The rfl is a joke.
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| Quote ="the_grobs"How many times have we heard at our games, neutrel games and even on TV.....the Referee's a W....r! Has anyone heard of a team being fined for it? Is that not abuse? So why selectively do they pick out a couple of occassions when they've heard stuff at our games??
You'll all know who I mean when I say that we often hear Sparrow legs or Twiggy shouted at one particular linesman......Monopoloy man or it's him from Terry and June.....is that abuse in the eyes of the RFL? or just a bit of banter!
I am not condoning the behaviour when it becomes bitter, however these things do happen at every game in the league and at every level, yet we are the only ones to be fined.
I feel that we've been victimised again! Another opportunity to knock our 2011 franchise bid!
Keep your chins up guys, they'll never break our spirits!
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To be fair though, there is a massive difference between a generic chant at referees and targeting a particular individual based on their sexuality (or race, gender, whatever).
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| Quote ="madtigerman"... Salford at cas last year a set of Salford fans throw a flare towards Richard owen and the match officals and the rfl action was nothing yet again...'"
As has already been pointed out: any action would have been taken against Castleford, since it took place at Wheldon Road and your stewards apparently seemed incapable of doing anything about it.
So perhaps you should chalk that one us as the RFL turning a blind eye instead of punishing you.
Quote ="Guerrier"To be fair though, there is a massive difference between a generic chant at referees and targeting a particular individual based on their sexuality (or race, gender, whatever).'"
And let's face it – since anyone who denies being a w***er is telling porkies anyway, it can hardly be an insult.
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| =#8000FFRW has been provided with a list of names and a picture of the people who were to blame so let's hope he sends them the bill.
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| Why didnt they tannoy it to remind fans thats such abuse wont be tolerated. You manged to use it to stir up hatred against the Wigan U18s. Small minded club left in the 70s.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Why didnt they tannoy it to remind fans thats such abuse wont be tolerated. You manged to use it to stir up hatred against the Wigan U18s. Small minded club left in the 70s.'"
=#8000FFIt's announced before every game you moron
not to mention it was 15-20 people who have all had their names forwarded to the chairman.
There again it's not like a Wigan fan to have no clue about anything is it?
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| Quote ="Smiggs"You're an embarrassment.'"
Get a life, if you read my post I say that I don't like that kind of abuse, how on earth am I an embrassment, just because I say Mr Thomas should do his talking on the field????
He might have achieved a lot on the field of play in Union, but it counts for nothing in Rugby League, I'm sure he was only signed to give the Crusaders more publicity because Union attracts more publicity, do you want to go there for another debate as to the why's and wherefor's?
I might ad that had the chants been aimed at a seasoned rugby league player, absolutely nothing would have happened, yet again read my lips I'm not condoning the abuse, read my post, but it seems the club is being made a scapegoat only because of the profile of Mr Thomas.
The chants were by a handful of young morons who don't know any better, Mr Thomas should have risen above it, I am exteremely disappointed by the actions of the mindless morons, but also by those of the RFL, what on earth could the club do? they take adequate steps but are being punished too harshly IMO.
To show the inbalance look at last season when Salford supporters threw a flare onto the pitch, this landed at Richard Owens feet, absolutely nothing was done about this, surely that is 100 times worse than the Thomas affair?
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| Cast your minds back to the Leon Pryce chanting that went on for a weeks at various grounds, about how he was going to get bmd in the showers etc.
Did he complain, did the RFL say that the fans were condeming homosexual behaviour, or abusing Leon?? Did anyone hear Pryce complaining about it?? I remember the Rhino's fans giving him all sorts of grief on a televised game. The RFL's action.........sweet FA!
Is GT a bit of a sensitive flower or something ?? Perhaps the whinging keeps him more in touch with his feminine side than the rest of the RL community!
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFIt's announced before every game you moron
not to mention it was 15-20 people who have all had their names forwarded to the chairman.
There again it's not like a Wigan fan to have no clue about anything is it?'"
So its announced before the game theres still 80 mins of rugby and h/t etc for incidents like this to occur, im sure if Cas had responded with a tannoy warning you would of had grounds to say we tried to put a stop to the situation but no you can only use your tannoy to try and bully and intimidate a team of kids. Hopefully there incidents will be reminded of when licencing comes around again.
Your fans are the morons not me ta.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"So its announced before the game theres still 80 mins of rugby and h/t etc for incidents like this to occur, im sure if Cas had responded with a tannoy warning you would of had grounds to say we tried to put a stop to the situation but no you can only use your tannoy to try and bully and intimidate a team of kids. Hopefully there incidents will be reminded of when licencing comes around again.
Your fans are the morons not me ta.'"
=#8000FFBecause Wigan are whiter then white
or do we need to remind you of all the fighting Wigan fans have been involved in this season?
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| I think it's ridiculous.
Im not sure what they have meant to have said, but fining a club for their crowd chanting something, is ridiculous.
Load of boll*cks.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"So its announced before the game theres still 80 mins of rugby and h/t etc for incidents like this to occur, im sure if Cas had responded with a tannoy warning you would of had grounds to say we tried to put a stop to the situation but no you can only use your tannoy to try and bully and intimidate a team of kids. Hopefully there incidents will be reminded of when licencing comes around again.
Your fans are the morons not me ta.'"
Rather than resorting to throwing insults at all the Cas fans, which is against the AUP and could result in further action being taken against your account, why don't you read the [url=http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=867official statement from the club[/url and acquaint yourself with some facts?
=#FF4000Whilst this is a sensitive issue, everyone needs to remember that there are rules on this site which need to be abided by.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFBecause Wigan are whiter then white
or do we need to remind you of all the fighting Wigan fans have been involved in this season?'"
Well i go home and away and have not seen a punch thrown, the only agro ive heard of was when Wigan fans were attacked in Warington town centre by a pub of idiots and i heard there was a skirmish in a pub in St Helens, hardly football factory stuff.
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| Quote ="Bonzo"Rather than resorting to throwing insults at all the Cas fans, which is against the AUP and could result in further action being taken against your account, why don't you read the [url=http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=867official statement from the club[/url and acquaint yourself with some facts?
=#FF4000Whilst this is a sensitive issue, everyone needs to remember that there are rules on this site which need to be abided by.'"
Im not throwing insults willy nilly, just responding that the fans who were chanting are morons not me as stated by whoever, as for the official statement ive read it thanks and am aware of the facts. A group of your fans abusing an opposition player, makes a change from opposition fans i suppose.
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| I'm sure these morans will think twice before they do it again now and if they don't i'm sure the 99% of proper human beings in the castleford support will be quick to remind them
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I'm sure these morans will think twice before they do it again now and if they don't i'm sure the 99% of proper human beings in the castleford support will be quick to remind them'"
=#8040FFI've sent Richard Wright an email with names and a picture of the culprits so they SHOULD be banned from the ground shortly.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Im not throwing insults willy nilly, just responding that the fans who were chanting are morons not me as stated by whoever, as for the official statement ive read it thanks and am aware of the facts. A group of your fans abusing an opposition player, makes a change from opposition fans i suppose.'"
Don't lie - you implied all Cas fans.
Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Your fans are the morons not me ta.'"
You're also derailing the thread with something that ought to have been dropped (and in most cases has been) 3 years ago.
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| Quote ="tb"
2) Gareth Thomas is to blame for being abused? Come on, get real. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the numpties who thought it would be big to homophobic and abuse a player, whose behaviour got us fined.'"
I dont remember shaun long going to the media when fans and not just cas fans chant to him......or martin offiah when he had bananas thrown at him.
I even remember the fans chanting you fat barsteward to jimmy lowes, he turned to the fans and rubbed his belly and had a laugh with us. Thats the spirit it should be taken. Unfortunatly the ''cry baby'' thomas went running the media. Be man and take it on the chin.
As for the 15 chavs who have got us into this mess.......get lost and never enter the ground again.
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"My god! The biggest over reaction in the history of the RFL.
Gary Connolly got far worse from the Saints fans (and probably a few more sets of fans too) over the years.
Why was that overlooked?
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Ryan Bailey gets far worse even now, from most clubs.
But at the end of the day, it appears from that statement that the main reason you got in trouble was for doing nothing about it. The least that you could have done is had the PA ask the fans to stop, which is what happens at most grounds when language of a non family relevance is sung.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Ryan Bailey gets far worse even now, from most clubs.
But at the end of the day, it appears from that statement that the main reason you got in trouble was for doing nothing about it. The least that you could have done is had the PA ask the fans to stop, which is what happens at most grounds when language of a non family relevance is sung.'"
The PA was put when this happened.
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| I'm sorry, but if I as a wet liberal can see that this fine is absolutely ridiculous then surely everybody else can?
Homophobia is wrong, no doubt, but chants directed to weak spots of visiting players is one of the realities of sport. Abusive chanting happens at 100% of games in most team sports, but the RFL have clearly reacted because of who the player is, the interest in him from the national press and arguably because of the club who can be blamed. I have little doubt that if it happened at Leeds, Bradford, Saints, Wigan, Hull FC, KR, Huddersfield, Harlequins, Catalans or Warrington, nothing would have been said. As it happened at one of the clubs up for the chop next year - Cas, Wakefield or Salford - it was both easy and convinient for the RFL to put a black mark against that club. It's just a shame that Gareth Thomas played at Cas before either of the other clubs, otherwise it would have been them in the dock.
I'm 100% behind the club in its appeal. They played the RFL's Respect message over the tannoy to drown out the chants, and play it at every game. As has been mentioned before, without individually gagging fans before a game, there's nothing else the club could have done.
A warning letter I would accept, the club admitted what happened and took steps to stop it. A £40k fine is absolutely disgraceful, and I look forward to every Super League club receiving equal punishment whenever an opposition player or official is abused in the coming weeks (should be 7 fines next week then).
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| Quote ="Gazemous"I'm sorry, but if I as a wet liberal can see that this fine is absolutely ridiculous then surely everybody else can?
Homophobia is wrong, no doubt, but chants directed to weak spots of visiting players is one of the realities of sport. Abusive chanting happens at 100% of games in most team sports, but the RFL have clearly reacted because of who the player is, the interest in him from the national press and arguably because of the club who can be blamed. I have little doubt that if it happened at Leeds, Bradford, Saints, Wigan, Hull FC, KR, Huddersfield, Harlequins, Catalans or Warrington, nothing would have been said. As it happened at one of the clubs up for the chop next year - Cas, Wakefield or Salford - it was both easy and convinient for the RFL to put a black mark against that club. It's just a shame that Gareth Thomas played at Cas before either of the other clubs, otherwise it would have been them in the dock.
I'm 100% behind the club in its appeal. They played the RFL's Respect message over the tannoy to drown out the chants, and play it at every game. As has been mentioned before, without individually gagging fans before a game, there's nothing else the club could have done.
A warning letter I would accept, the club admitted what happened and took steps to stop it. A £40k fine is absolutely disgraceful, and I look forward to every Super League club receiving equal punishment whenever an opposition player or official is abused in the coming weeks (should be 7 fines next week then).'"
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| Quote ="Gazemous"I'm sorry, but if I as a wet liberal can see that this fine is absolutely ridiculous then surely everybody else can?
Homophobia is wrong, no doubt, but chants directed to weak spots of visiting players is one of the realities of sport. Abusive chanting happens at 100% of games in most team sports, but the RFL have clearly reacted because of who the player is, the interest in him from the national press and arguably because of the club who can be blamed. I have little doubt that if it happened at Leeds, Bradford, Saints, Wigan, Hull FC, KR, Huddersfield, Harlequins, Catalans or Warrington, nothing would have been said. As it happened at one of the clubs up for the chop next year - Cas, Wakefield or Salford - it was both easy and convinient for the RFL to put a black mark against that club. It's just a shame that Gareth Thomas played at Cas before either of the other clubs, otherwise it would have been them in the dock.
I'm 100% behind the club in its appeal. They played the RFL's Respect message over the tannoy to drown out the chants, and play it at every game. As has been mentioned before, without individually gagging fans before a game, there's nothing else the club could have done.
A warning letter I would accept, the club admitted what happened and took steps to stop it. A £40k fine is absolutely disgraceful, and I look forward to every Super League club receiving equal punishment whenever an opposition player or official is abused in the coming weeks (should be 7 fines next week then).'"
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| It wont happen, it's only cas they (RFL) are after.
Cant you see it, it's so obvious.
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