Had this thread been posted a year ago there'd be only me saying no! I'm still saying no.

And me bonzo, i've always rated sherwin.

for as much as i rate shifty - you have to ask the question are we getting valeu for money for me NOT! but you also need to ask what else is out there and would we be better off. i believe with a decet scout overseas we would find another gem like we have Chase but we all know the chases of this world are few and far between. by that i mean for a club like cas to pluck him out of the air un rivalled and turn out to be a world beater.

if we can get better then my answer is yes however, if we replace him with cheaper average joe then No...but we need to get him on the chuffing pitch for christ sake!!!

You could easily say the same for hudson when he was out, by the time he got back from his injury he had missed more games than he had played, but for some reason that doesnt get a mention (not having a go at the signing oof hudson he's brought alot to the team and i'm glad we have him long term).

if hudson was to miss most of next season to then i would say exactly the say - always the risk when you sign players nearing the end of their carreers so 3 and 4 year deals make me roll around the floor laughing but feeling very uneasy also.

Yeah but he's not an overseas player is he? We all know that they have to perform week in, week out, to garner faint praise, any bad game then he is a waste of money/a quota spot. There are some 'homegrown' players who can get away with being (below) average without attracting any attention/damnation.

Faint whiff of xenophobia/jingoism if you ask me

Have you taken into account the quality of players around each of them and asked yourself whether Long would have played as many games in NRL as Shifty.

point taken but we play in SL and IMO the better SH out of the two in question for CTRLFC would be SL which is why TM tried to sign Long as did most other coaches in SL. Hull offered big money!

Exactley is at a coincidence that chase, sherwin, sarge, dorn, widders, guttenbiel etc have all got alot more flack than if they had been english?

I find it funny that there is an advert right at the bottom of this thread

"have you been injured?"

Well currentley hudson has missed more game this season than sherwin has and whats more sherwin has played 36 games for us in two seasons so far (with at least 4 possible outings to go) which though it isnt great isnt as poor as alot of people make out, like on the other forum it was said that he has missed more game than he has played which is clearly rubbish.

i would question how many of them 36 are SL games!

33, non sl appearances being quins in the cup last year, and kieghly and fax this year.

so out of 54 SL (50 to date) BS had figured in 66%. and i assume that you are pleased with this?

What a stupid question.

Of course i'm not pleased, i'm pleased if any single player misses any single match through injury, i'm not pleased that hudson has missed 10 sl matches out of of 23 either but as we support a sport where injuries are common place its to be expected that players get injured and when players get injured they miss matches.

On this thread your saying we would have been better off with sean long a player with a much worse injury record, would you be more pleased with long out injured at cas than shifty out injured at cas?

for the record i was just putting my pennith in and i would not have been happy with SL but feel he is a better player than BS...Cas always manage to sign expensive players who spend most of their time in the treatment room.

this is all relative as shifty will be here next season.

Seriously? Can you back up that claim? Does this not happen at other clubs?

Paul Newlove
Botica (broke his leg)
Sherwin
Ryan Sherridan

those are at the top of my head

But does that not happen at other clubs?

ie saints
sculthorpe
long
cayless

And over a much shorter time period.

Wow, 4 players, we truly do have a reputation for signing players that get injured, sack the BoD. We are no better or no worse than other clubs.

What about all the players we have signed and have been relatively injury free? Care to compile a list of those?

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Was on a match fee only (ie pay as you play) deal iirc
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Was on crutches when we signed him, but had a good season, I seem to recall


Was there a good signing in that 2004 squad? And let's be fair: who of us can predict a season-ending shoulder injury?

We tend to sign players who are overrated, Sherwin is one of them. Add his injury prone ways then, i'd get rid today. He is too inconsistent with his play for me, he will either win the game for us or lose it.

No

over rated when he is on the pitch he the best player in the side by a country mile

Best at what exactly? Kicking straight into touch-yes, kicking the ball dead in goal-yes oh, and throwing the intercept pass-joint best with Goldy