That's silly talk, I would be disappointed to see Boyle go and those 2 brought in but if that is the choice TM makes then he is responsible for that decision and should be judged on what effect that decision has in the coming seasons.

We did do the same with Hendo, but by then it was obviously too late, decisions had been made and actions put in motion. It's not too late to let the board and TM know our thoughts on Boyle though.

dont you mean coming season? drew 35 martin 31 and boyle 21 he will be the only one of the three around in coming seasons

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a silly move as well, but if we get those players in and go onto win something. Or if Boyle doesn't make it elsewhere. Then you have to say that TM made a good decision, you can't say he should go based on a decision that we don't know the outcome of.

But again, I would rather it didn't happen and Boyle remained where he belongs.

speculation

i too know ryan and feel exactly the same a complete joke matterson has to go for me purely over this alone. ryan will be down lane watching cas when he finishes playing where will TM be yep, chuffin oz ryan = cas i know who i'd rather keep!

If Cas don't keep home grown talent it is madness. Has TM fallen out with Boyle ? The players rumoured to be coming to cas apart from Snitch are too old imho.

Pure Speculation IMO, No proof at all, just ive heard this blah blah blah, I will believe it when and IF its announced

I Agree Totally

I am not in favour of letting boyle go id give him 3yr deal asap let him develop with sargent as a mentor on the pitch. Snith I agree with paltyed very well this year.

I can recall an interview not sure if on tiger tv or not where matterson said we were looking for experienced super league players for recruits this year I maybe wrong can anyone else recall this.

Matterson raved on for months about homegrown players, seems he's lost his own beliefs

How do you know all this is true ?

As for the age thing,could it be TM is looking short term,if these ageing players get you into the play offs or challenge cup final next year it puts Cas in a much better position come the next set of franchises.

Isn't one of the franchise points awarded for average 8th place finish over 3 previous seasons?

With you finishing 12th last year and assuming you finish as high as 6th this year you would still need another 6th or higher next season to get this point. Any lower than 6th this year would mean you needing a 5th or maybe even 4th place next year to get the point.

Maybe TM is looking short term for getting you another point on the licence applications?

We cant keep doing this every 3 years though....short fixes to make sure we stay in SL. I know we have some good youngster coming through but there's no garantee any will make it to SL. Where's the next batch after westerman and owen. Both will be 20 this year so where the next 18/19 years old in the same mould as them 2 players.

The key word there is rumours. No need for everyone to get worked up saying TM/RW have alot to answer for when nothing even happened.

Agree with you, but rumour or not the fact is that to my knowledge we haven't resigned some of the promising players we already have (like boyle). We need to get off our backsides and resign them.

It isn't according to [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/7138760.stmthis[/url.

Guilty until proven innocent eh?

Jackson is e, e and errrrr e. If we sign this e for Higgins or Boyle then Mr Matterson, Mr Wright, you can stick it. I give up

Couldn't agree more mate but then again it is a big IF

I'd be dissapointed to see Boyle go, IF the rumours are true. I can remember back to the grand final win against Widnes in 07 when TM was interviewed he said something like 'we can bring the juniors through' or something along those lines. Apart from Owen, Westy, Shenny .. who else have we bought through in the past 2/3 years? I like the fact we have Owen, Shenny, Westy in our side, but it does annoy me when on sky you hear 'Oh Cas have great youngsters coming through and they name the same 2/3, We need more of these young lads given a chance. I'm not doubting we don't have them because i know the 18's are going well. I just think we should give a few more a chance..rather than sign players ala short gap EG = Jackson. (allthough only rumour!)

Wasn't Shenny a first teamer before TM arrived?

Dave Woods gave him his chance.

jacko wasnt poop for the giants last week against wire giants he was outstanding, he is certainly as good as stuart jones who you have at cas, getting on a bit but will still do a good job for you

wheres higgins going?

no where as yet