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| I'm getting fed up with all the squabbling on this forum a lately,some of you want to GROW UP
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| Quote ="chissitt"Be assured every Wakey fan has always believed everything that has ever been said on here especially all things Cas, what reason have we got not to believe it
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You lot concern yourselves with Cas way too much.
Good luck getting as many bites on the Fev & Batley boards over the next few years.
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| Quote ="Kippaxer"You lot concern yourselves with Cas way too much.
Good luck getting as many bites on the Fev & Batley boards over the next few years.'"
OMG, are you even a little bit embarassed by how pathetic and feeble that post is!? Do you honestly think that you occupy a position so lofty that you can heap disdain on honest hard working clubs like Fev and Batley? Just remove your head from your colon and think on - YOU ARE NOT SAFE YET! Thanks to the narrow mindedness of the RFL fans of the two SL teams in Wakefield are convinced its 'us or them' - the truth is that nobody knows, just like nobody knows when/if/where either teams stadium plans will come to fruition. Its good that you believe, but belief is no substitute for reality!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"OMG, are you even a little bit embarassed by how pathetic and feeble that post is!? Do you honestly think that you occupy a position so lofty that you can heap disdain on honest hard working clubs like Fev and Batley? Just remove your head from your colon and think on - YOU ARE NOT SAFE YET! Thanks to the narrow mindedness of the RFL fans of the two SL teams in Wakefield are convinced its 'us or them' - the truth is that nobody knows, just like nobody knows when/if/where either teams stadium plans will come to fruition. Its good that you believe, but belief is no substitute for reality!'"
Do i honestly think we're certainties? No do I chuff. Pretty confident but, no more than that.
Just banter innit. I mean the constant anti Cas crap and ridicule from the Wakey lot who camp on here day and night is just banter too, isn't it?
All's fair in love and trolling, right?
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| Fair enough - TBH I get just as p***ed off with some of the juvenile rantings of some Wakey fans - I try not to respond but every now and then.....
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| The sadest thing about this rubbish is that it is beyond local rivalry, Wakefield and Cas are two great rubgy clubs and the Derby cup game was a great advert for having two superleague team in the district. A section of my fellow Wakefield fans focus only on the fact that we get a ground before Cas. Does it really matter? What matters if that we support rugby in the district. We should fight together and not against each other at this time.
Lets look at what having us BOTH in superleague brings to the game. How many England players are from the district or through the local ranks? Westwood, Westerman, Ellis, Shenton, Fozzard, Burrow....the list goes on. Why are SL so focussed on deveoping areas outside of England? Is the team so strong against Oz and NZ we don't need to get English youngsters palying the game.
I think whatever happen Wakefield will go down and then what. SL want another London Club, another French club and Welsh club. I would say Scotland will also be in there soon. The game can only carry 14 clubs in SL so do Cas fan really think that Wakefield going will make their life easier. Say we go and in three year your stadium isn't build you could be next. No Wakefield district club would be terrible for the game.
The directors and the board making childish comments is madness. But it seems to be that lifetime true fans can see what SL are trying to do. Everyone is buying into the stadium francise thing but now the rubgy has been forgotten and the history of the game matters not. Some of you (Wakefield and Cas fans alike) should be ashamed and I am embarresed to read thes forums. We aren't a rich district money wise and over the next 10 years both clubs will have gone from superleague and we will wonder what the fuss is about having two great stadiums with not even enoung money to maintain them.
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"The sadest thing about this rubbish is that it is beyond local rivalry, Wakefield and Cas are two great rubgy clubs and the Derby cup game was a great advert for having two superleague team in the district. A section of my fellow Wakefield fans focus only on the fact that we get a ground before Cas. Does it really matter? What matters if that we support rugby in the district. We should fight together and not against each other at this time.
Lets look at what having us BOTH in superleague brings to the game. How many England players are from the district or through the local ranks? Westwood, Westerman, Ellis, Shenton, Fozzard, Burrow....the list goes on. Why are SL so focussed on deveoping areas outside of England? Is the team so strong against Oz and NZ we don't need to get English youngsters palying the game.
I think whatever happen Wakefield will go down and then what. SL want another London Club, another French club and Welsh club. I would say Scotland will also be in there soon. The game can only carry 14 clubs in SL so do Cas fan really think that Wakefield going will make their life easier. Say we go and in three year your stadium isn't build you could be next. No Wakefield district club would be terrible for the game.
The directors and the board making childish comments is madness. But it seems to be that lifetime true fans can see what SL are trying to do. Everyone is buying into the stadium francise thing but now the rubgy has been forgotten and the history of the game matters not. Some of you (Wakefield and Cas fans alike) should be ashamed and I am embarresed to read thes forums. We aren't a rich district money wise and over the next 10 years both clubs will have gone from superleague and we will wonder what the fuss is about having two great stadiums with not even enoung money to maintain them.'"
Good post
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| Quote ="binks"Good post
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Totally agree. I've listened all weekend to the arguments over the FIFA presidency and the arguments over the running of English Rugby Union - both of which have overshadowed on-field events. In the case of FIFA its overshadowed the triumph of one of the greatest club sides we'll ever see (Barcelona) in one of the few games of footy I've felt like watching in the last 10 years. Made all the sweeter by the fact that they smashed scum!
The RFL should take note - what happens ON the pitch should ALWAYS take precedence over what goes on off it!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Totally agree. I've listened all weekend to the arguments over the FIFA presidency and the arguments over the running of English Rugby Union - both of which have overshadowed on-field events. In the case of FIFA its overshadowed the triumph of one of the greatest club sides we'll ever see (Barcelona) in one of the few games of footy I've felt like watching in the last 10 years. Made all the sweeter by the fact that they smashed scum!
The RFL should take note - what happens ON the pitch should ALWAYS take precedence over what goes on off it!'"
Ok right thats 2 good posts from Wakey fans, cant argue at all so im off to lay down
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Totally agree. I've listened all weekend to the arguments over the FIFA presidency and the arguments over the running of English Rugby Union - both of which have overshadowed on-field events. In the case of FIFA its overshadowed the triumph of one of the greatest club sides we'll ever see (Barcelona) in one of the few games of footy I've felt like watching in the last 10 years. Made all the sweeter by the fact that they smashed scum!
The RFL should take note - what happens ON the pitch should ALWAYS take precedence over what goes on off it!'"
I was just thinking the same last night. In a way the RFL have many similarities to FIFA. Especially in the way that they are bending rules, to ensure that they get the SKY 'bung' of money, by leaning towards the SKY's chosen ones.
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| Looking at the other forum, I have just seen this ([urlhttp://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20043&start=135[/url)
Quote We have set an ambitious target of 15,000 signatures in 5 weeks. The council have agreed for the petition to be heard and debated in front of the full council. To get 15,000 to sign in such a short time will really show the council the depth of feeling shown for the development. Imagine what the reaction will be if we get 20,000.'"
Why the need to have the issue of a potential planning application, which has not even been made yet or anyone actually seen any outline proposals for (as far as I am aware, although I do know in some reasonable detail what they are going to show) debated before the whole of WMDC, prior to even the actual decision making body of members, the planning committee, even have the chance to look and comment upon it???
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| Tell you what IA, I'm going to dispense with all news sources regarding Cas and listen to your opinions and thoughts which are always unerringly accurate </[isarcasm[/i>
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Looking at the other forum, I have just seen this ([urlhttp://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20043&start=135[/url)
Why the need to have the issue of a potential planning application, which has not even been made yet or anyone actually seen any outline proposals for (as far as I am aware, although I do know in some reasonable detail what they are going to show) debated before the whole of WMDC, prior to even the actual decision making body of members, the planning committee, even have the chance to look and comment upon it???'"
Yaaaawwwwnnn - You realy are very tiresome IA.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Looking at the other forum, I have just seen this ([urlhttp://www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20043&start=135[/url)
Why the need to have the issue of a potential planning application, which has not even been made yet or anyone actually seen any outline proposals for (as far as I am aware, although I do know in some reasonable detail what they are going to show) debated before the whole of WMDC, prior to even the actual decision making body of members, the planning committee, even have the chance to look and comment upon it???'"
Go and play the mini messiah somewhere else, you're nothing but a pain in the back side.
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Tell you what IA, I'm going to dispense with all news sources regarding Cas and listen to your opinions and thoughts which are always unerringly accurate </[isarcasm[/i>'"
You will notice that this was a question, hence the ???.
So, three people have taken the route of having a go at me but not tried to answer the question. So what is the answer?
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| In summary. The new ground is dependant on the old ground getting planning permission to build a supermarket. This may take time and be a bit complicated. Castleford are trying to be proactive and get signatures in case any objection is raised.
Think I have covered everything there IA and as a lifetime Wakey fan you are now starting to feel like a wasp at a birthday party at best or a fart in a lift at worst. Your views and insider knowledge are not wanted or required, in time all will be sorted.
Easy!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"You will notice that this was a question, hence the ???.
So, three people have taken the route of having a go at me but not tried to answer the question. So what is the answer?'"
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"In summary. The new ground is dependant on the old ground getting planning permission to build a supermarket. This may take time and be a bit complicated. Castleford are trying to be proactive and get signatures in case any objection is raised.
Think I have covered everything there IA and as a lifetime Wakey fan you are now starting to feel like a wasp at a birthday party at best or a fart in a lift at worst. Your views and insider knowledge are not wanted or required, in time all will be sorted.
Easy!'"
Spot on, that is what I think the answer is as well... which is fine and all I have done is try to explain and post exactly that. Apparently, wanting the same thing as you (I think?), to make both sets of fans realise that they should be working together and trying to convince the RFL that SL needs both Wakey and Castleford and as such 15 clubs must be the way to go for the next franchise period has incurred your wrath. Well tough, I don't care!
You are right, in time this will all be sorted, but at the moment both clubs have run out of time... unless the RFL grants them the needed opportunity of another 3 years.
You can join the Ostrich club if you like?
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| Shall I lock this or what ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Shall I lock this or what ?'"
For what reasons?
PS. I know that I should, according to the AUP, ask you this via a PM, but you asked the question on the open forum, so hope you don't mind.
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| IA read my post about 7 back how do you think I am taking the Ostich approach?
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"IA read my post about 7 back how do you think I am taking the Ostich approach?'"
I don't, but then you, like many others, have gone down the road of personal attacks?
Please read my original post and then look at the reactions I got... are these not the reactions that you are angered by and the reason you posted this on both here and the Wakey board? Posting information I believe to be valid and important, however un-popular it makes me with some, is what I post... you don't like it, please feel free to join another forum.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"For what reasons?
PS. I know that I should, according to the AUP, ask you this via a PM, but you asked the question on the open forum, so hope you don't mind.'"
No problem at all. Just wondered if it was going to turn in to some sort of bitchfest or not. You asked a question at the beginning and things can go at tangents.
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