Today was the first time i've had chance to see Cas play for a while apart from Sky and i wish i hadn't have wasted my money. Absolutely disgusting performance with no heart and gameplan at all. Forwards stood flat all game and wingers might aswell have stood in the middle of the pitch for the whole game.

I can definately see us finishing bottom this year. 1 step forward and 5 steps back.

You seem a tad down old chap, never mind

I agree, don't log in often but feel I need to we were a joke today and I appreciate Wigan are a good side, but I cannot remember a performance with so little heart, from the start of the game we could not care less, no heart, no passion, we are never going to get near a team like Wigan without this, disgusted with today's effort, I don't mind us losing when we try, but we certainly didn't today, big issues down the lane

I've never seen a team go into a ruck so slowly. It was like we were watching a slow motion replay.

Wigan were good in defence today but in attack were no better than we can be when we're at our best.

Never mind though we have a nice easy fixture against Leeds on friday night on SKY to get back on track with.
Ill almost feel sorry for the Rhinos when they suffer our wrath!

Started as expected this year. Weve had a tough start unlike last year. Lets just hope when we are finally back to full strength we can start winning. Tough year this year but I didnt expect much more with the world class signings we made :/ we can rely on our great young lads but they wont be superleague class for another 2 year. (if we keep them)

Before kick off thought it would go one of two ways due to the raw emotion around the club this week. If we got off to a good start then I thought we would make a game of it but a slow start and it would be a big loss.

Unfortunately it was the latter and Wigan didn't really have to break sweat to get the win. I know we are a lot better than what was on show and hopefully we can bounce back with a performance against Leeds

Don't understand the knee-jerk reactions and accusations of lacking in effort.

We were well beaten by a much better side.

At times Wigan looked class and had we lacked for application then the score could have easily doubled.

For the most part, we succeeded in a damage limitation exercise.

Like most sides we'll come up against, our opponents simply looked a physically more imposing outfit and they did everything much faster than we could.

We lacked any impetus from the pack and our three-quarters were absolutely woeful.

With all our injured players back and a few wiser selections (Walker/Thompson) we might get a better picture regarding where we're likely to finish.

Simply not good enough basil will be gutted with the lack of effort from the players who should have gave it there all today.

Thing is we want the club to compete,not just hope for damage limitation....if we have to watch more games like that some fans just won't bother going....as for the injuries all clubs have them.

I think that stems from the fact that we stood still when we allowed Tomkins to pick up a loose-ball, run horizontally before arcing round and pass to Richards to finish in the corner without even attempting to lay a finger on him. It was shambolic.



....who didn't have to get out of their comfort zone.



.....or Wigan gave up half-way through?

Youngquest had what was possibly the worst game I have ever seen from a winger. Absolute shocker! I know he is just back from injury but if that's the best he can do he should stick to modelling underwear! Even Donlan had seen enough on the hour mark.

McGoldrick just looks fat and slow. I think Grehan will be taking his place in the next week or so. At least he showed interest.

Owen was fantastic again. Didn't stop. I bet he made more meters than most of the forwards. Griffin again was solid enough. TBH I didn't expect anything more from today. 3 first choice front rowers out means you will never beat the top teams. Ask Wakefield... Oh no wait they only have one out and were spanked by Bradford

Wigan never really got out of second gear. They were good but not great. They got the basics spot-on, something which seemed to elude us for the entire game. Our performance was very poor. We simply didn't stand up to them and our defence was terrible for the most part.

For me there were two players came out of the game with some credibility - Danny Orr, who worked extremely hard to create chances and motivate the team; and Richard Owen who was superb under the high ball. Other than that I was thoroughly disappointed with the lot of them and they really need to take a long hard look in the mirror. My mate's a Wigan fan and he was disappointed we didn't give them a better game - there was no comeback and that hurt. God help us on Friday.

I think that the reactions here are a bit harsh really. I didn't see a lack of effort but what I did see was a side that was simply outclassed by much better opposition.

Wigan knew that they had the measure of us and that allowed them to play a relaxed and confident brand of rugby and we were often just chasing shadows. Sure it wasn't our best performance but I don't think that there was much we could have done against them today personally.

They are a much stronger, faster and more skillful side and sometimes in sport you just have to hold your hands up, say well done to the opposition and look towards how we can improve. Sadly, until we get a stadium, bigger crowds and more money we will never really be able to compete with the top sides.

We did have quite a few players out today who would have normally played and we certainly missed Arundel who has been good for us the past few weeks.

Did you see the performance against Catalans last week? I'd swear that was a different team out there today (and against Bradford) if I didn't know better.

To be honest i was shocked at the lack of fight in your side yesterday. I think you need some mongrel in your pack and quick.

But last week we didn't try to take a larger pack on down the middle of the park! I really wish we would realise that at the moment we really have no front rowers to take the ball in. We are amuch better side when throwing the ball out wide!

At times, Sam had a gap of about 2 metres to exploit. You can't give a player of his class that much time and space or he'll kill you all game as he seemed to do yesterday. I thought Chase did his best and showed some decent touches but with a beaten pack its hard for a halfback to have a true influence on the game. Richard Owen also looked lively and again the same point applies. You have the makings of top 8 side but you need to improve in the forwards if you are gonna make it. Great banter with some of the locals before the game by the way, had a really good day and was made very welcome. Your fans are a credit to your club (minus the one numpty near the end)

Luckily there's 3 props to come back from injury yet (Huby, Millington, Jackson).

I think there is some perspective needed - we are neither going to finish top or bottom, so lets take something of a view of the events of the last week and be a little bit balanced. Secondly, three of our first 5 props are out, Wigan play fast and dominant in the middle for the first several tackles of every set.

Not that this excuses a poor effort and poor organisation - I do think that when other team's are in possession they have more players on the move purposefully creating doubt.... Generally speaking a numbered up defence will work against us with a press in or a press out to cover an over or an under line - so we don't create a lot of doubt in the opposition defense in our 'standard' sets - when we get to our red sets in the oppo 20 and get a half back on the ball - then we have some variety, but in our own half, it is a bit one dimensional.

Friday; similar defeat or we win, nothing between. Expect Hills to give us 14 start and we will either be easy inside that or will need double.

The only downside is Huby is 6? weeks away and Jackson is out for another 3 months. I hope we use Millington for Friday. Why wasnt Walker played? No disrespect to Nash but he hasnt shown me much in the games so far to be picked ahead of Walker.

Yeah, agree with that as well - Whacker in and maybe Millington for a debut.... If they are right, I wouldn't waste them on Friday ahead of a few weeks.

With the Leeds 4 props, I think we will need some tackling beef - could be one for Hudson off the bench as well at 13, 9 is now sorted.

Yeah we could have done with Hudson yesterday for his tackling and experience. Time to change it around a bit. I would drop Youngquest to the 20s, he clearly wasnt ready yesterday. Holmes and Mitchell have done well so far but have played pretty much 80 mins every week. Thats why i would bring in Hudson.

McGoldrick will be ripped to shreds against Leeds so he needs dropping, stick Thompson & Grehan in the centres with Dixon & Griffin on the wings.

your lucky trin have only played muppets yet hard times to come