From what I have just seen regarding his recovery on Boots and All, if that is an accurate report on how Cas have handled him since his injury regards his recovery, then he needs to get away asap along with the likes of Westerman, or the conditioning staff need sacking.

can't get 'Boots and All' wher I live or on Sky player.....what did it say then?....Sounds very disturbing if a key asset like Owen is being treated badly by the club.

from what he said he has basically been sat on his rear since his injury, the lad has dropped a shed load of weight that is evident, he stated how depressing it was to wake up and only have the prospect of watching tv all day, and cannot wait to get back to training.

Quality players in rugby league need treating like the professionals they are, if they are being neglected in this way then questions need to be asked.

Poor guy...must be a real pi$$er to be out long term when your just breaking into the 1st team.
I agree that its a travesty if the club aren't looking after him properly. Shame.

I'm currently recovering from a very similar injury, incurred a few weeks earlier than Richie's, and was told to do very little apart from 'sit on my rear' and keep the leg elevated until the second, lightweight, cast came off. At the Barrow game Rich was still in a heavy pot and I understand he had suffered an infection which would put his rehab several more weeks behind mine and I've only been in physio since mid-April. If my experience is anything to go by there's nothing the club will be able to do about his physical condition yet and I'm not prepared to judge their pastoral care on the basis of an item on a magazine programme which rarely prtrays us favourably.

How dare you introduce common sense and facts into a debate when people had a new angle from which to have a good old moan about the club.



Sorry to hear about your injury anyway Smoking Monkey and hope you're now on the road to recovery.

I watched the programme but you can't have done but made this all up as you're talking drivel.

What would you recommend mate? Some light training? Easy jogging?

I watched the interview and his mum stated that his team mates had been visiting him and how he was more mobile he was going down to the club.

The lad had a serious injury and needed rest and recuperation, what he didn't need was the club making him feel like they were putting him underpressure to get back to work! Now he is more mobile I have no doubt that he will be involved more but this will be taken at Richards pace.

To be honest I think you heard what you wanted to hear on the interview and blanked out the rest

More like he just made it all up and thought that no-one would notice.

I'm getting there Bonzo thanks...almost had a major setback down the lane a few weeks back when HKR fans kept trying to kick my crutches from under me


Worst thing was missing the win at Leeds after seeing us get hammered there over the last 10 years.

Owen should be on a rehab programme right from point 1. He is still able to do upper body work and also able to work his good leg, which will help his injured leg via a 30% training cross over.

Having one of the finest young talents in the game sat on his behind all day instead of getting started on his rehabilitation is criminal in my opinion.

Ignorance is no excuse.

And did it say that he had done none of these things?

Are you a doctor?

Any reason as to why you made up that guff on your original post regarding Richard Owen ?

One of the most ridiculous threads in a long time!

I'd like to see the efforts you'd be putting in with a broken leg in two places and an infection to make matters worse.

Fool

I did the same injury but worse as an 18 year old both sides of my leg needed plating and pinning and i was in pot for over 6 months, luckily for me at the time I was with a good rugby union club and my rehab started after the first month.

Am i a doctor.....no I am a Sports Science graduate, ex conditioning coach with a specialism in rehab.

Owen stated last night he had been doing nothing unable to train and sat on his backside all day, it would appear that if this is the case the entire backroom staff is not doing their job.

If rumours are true he will be well to be out of the club if he wants to reach his potential.

Maybe you should offer your services/expertise to the doctors and medical team seeing as you have so much in-depth information about Owen's condition at the moment.

Would you have worked with someone in isolation of a full medical history.....I think not.....but you are spouting off on the basis of a short, and almost certainly, edited TV interview.

With regard to your 'worse' injury (an amazing diagnosis without the benefit of comparitive x-rays etc) I don't know if you suffered an infection but a guy in LGI with me did and he had been confined to a hospital bed for 5 weeks and warned off pretty much everything except rest when he went home.

In the absence of input from Mr Owen's surgeon I don't think there's anything more to be said on this subject, even by a graduate who 'was with a good rugby union club'

I still think you're missing jonh's point of clearly wanting to overinflate a negative story from which a small number of facts have been deduced, in order to take a swipe at the club. To back up your point though, I would suggest that no two cases of such injuries will be alike and in the event of an infection, even non-medical people know that the best way to fight it is through rest.

Why would i want to do that? I do not post on the Cas board often if ever and actually wish the club well.

As I said ignorance to this condition may be acceptable from the fans but not from the medical team. Super League players are top athletes and it is about time at some clubs they were treated like it, i do not think it is any coincidence that the clubs with the least professional and invested in backroom staff usually can be found towards the bottom of the table.

I've seen little evidence from your posts in this thread to suggest that you 'wish the club well'.

Let's recap shall we:







That all seems pretty negative to me. Now why would the club wish to neglect such a huge prospect such as Richard Owen? Just because he hasn't been able to do much, doesn't mean it's down to the club. What club in their right minds would go against the advice of medical specialists in rehabilitating an injury as serious as he suffered?

As I said previously, no two cases of such injuries are ever likely to be the same and just because an alleged poorly edited snippet on Boots 'n' All suggests that his injury is being handled differently to yours was, doesn't mean that he's being neglected. You don't know the facts, none of us do, excepting that we don't expect to see him playing again until next season at the earliest.

Just answer this one simple question:- Do you have access to Richard Owen's medical records and recommended course of treatment? If 'yes' then well done, if 'no' then STFU.

Re: The bold bit, really? Are you now also privvy to the complete staff roster for each SL club or is it another pish poor attempt at trolling?

Given I have worked at several SL clubs in the capacity of rehab and conditioning across the spectrum from top middle and bottom I have a good idea of what goes on.

The reason for my concern is that we have struggled so long at international level, it appears now we have a young lad with the potential to be a great player, the correct rehab could ensure he reaches that potential, incorrect rehab and we could never see him go on to make the most of himself.

I understand you are all defensive at the moment so fair play I will leave it at that, not on here to row, simply to highlight a concern about the club you follow.

All the best.

Jonh

If you were not here to argue then why did you bother with your original post as you must have known that what you said is garbage ?