in my opinion Bill Arthur's commentary fails to get the balance right between interesting comments and factual ones

Roy Studd as a lead commentator was good. With Carney/Eddie as back up and Cullen for analysis would be good. Stevo tries too hard to be controversial and O'conner is cr@p as well as widnes biased. Barry Mac has to keep some role as he is a really funny bloke!

Did you know Clive Tyldsley used to commentate on the North West RL programmes in the 80s/early 90s.

Martin Tyler and John Helm both commentated on Scrumdown as well.

Having grown with Ray French and his M62 references cementing the flat cap image of RL for years I think we should be thankful for Eddie and Stevo AND Bill Arthur to be honest

Perhaps if you had listened to PC’s reply to Eddie’s inability to comprehend the reason for the bonus point, you would have understood what PC meant. Sometimes when a team is beaten they just accept it and fold, with nowt left to play for. Players may see getting to within 12 points as achievable, and fight until the end for that. Thus avoiding embarrassing and woeful games like the Warrington v Salford game, on which they were commenting.

I’m not a big fan of the bonus point, but it should be introduced across the board or scrapped completely imo.

I'm with you on this. It seems that the Championship Leagues have been used for this experiment for too long without any resultant opinion being voiced as to its success or failure. Or, is it just that the SL clubs have said no chance, end of?

Possibly.

And, if that is the case, that should be the end of it in the Championship too.

After all, it has been said many a time; "the bonus point is a reward for failure no matter how you dress it up".

There are arguments and counter arguments. It certainly plays a huge part in the position of clubs in the league.

Being Devil’s advocate Here:

The clubs which consistently push to stay in touch with the opposition and make an exciting spectacle of their games, even when they lose, get something out of it. Sheffield was a good side last season and run a lot of sides very close. They earned themselves a play-off place against Fev, which they may not have achieved without the bonus point. I can’t say that they didn’t deserve to be there.

If you’re a crap side you probably won’t get a bonus point anyway.

My problem is that, even though I find the system hard to accept, I would accept it if it was introduced throughout the game after a short period trialed in the Championship. One rule for one part of the same sport and a different rule for another is totally unacceptable imo. It’s either deemed to have succeeded or failed. If it has succeeded, then it should be introduced into SL. If they don’t want it then it should be scrapped. I don’t have a problem with keeping it, but RL is supposed to be the same sport, which should be run under the same rules.

agree if RFL think success why have they not put same in SL.

That’s the $64,000 question.

Has it even been put to the SL clubs yet?

If not, then why?

If it has, and they have rejected it, why is it still being run in the Championship?

I’d love to know the answer to some of these questions. But we seem to be treated with complete disdain in the lower leagues. It seems our opinions and wishes are not important to the RFL.

Another $64.000 question

Will you ever get a straight honest answer to a question from The RFL?

Unlikely, as they’d probably just think we’re making a Mountain out of a molehill, and the conversation would go down hill faster than a Nantucket Sleighride.

An honest answer from the RFL Never in my life

Get rid of it. It's ridiculous. I hate the bonus point sysytem and i hate having byes in this league. The RFL have probably forgotten they exist in this league. They're too busy trying to fathom out where best to have the Magic Weekend. May i suggest Wood & Lewis try a fact finding mission in the Hellmand Province?

Losing by a single point is not as emotionally crushing as it used to be, is it?

We rarely lose by a single point. When we lose, we do it properly.

That's Wood and Lewis for you. A pair of Mississippi Queens.

Perhaps we could get rid of them on a southbound train

Pepe: I agree wholeheartedly with you, fella. Trouble is, when the Championship clubs speak, the RFL turn off their deaf-aids.


As for the rest of you quoting 70's rock tunes; stop making a Mountain out of a molehill.


[size=85Putting on coat right now.[/size

You better believe it

Sorry TS but Pepe has already used that one further up the page.

Bugger!

You better believe it

In Your Face