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The Bulls consortium will have already had assurances from the RFL that their franchise is safe.
RFL have stood the wages and paid for a Sh!t tip of a ground, do you honestly think they will put that at risk by not giving the Bulls a SL licence!
Our only hope is that if the Bulls get liquidated which the RFL won't allow to happen.
business as usual unfortunately with RFL not being interested in the heartland clubs.
oh well bring on Blackpool
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| Chris. I can see the "if Braford do go @r_se uppards, pick us, don't pick Fev" post, but it matters not one jot. I kind of agree with wyti87.
These are extraordinary times. Just assuming that Bradford do indeed go out of business or return as a shadow of themselves, i.e Crusaders, then the RFL will put into SL exactly who they want regardless of whether you think it's right or wrong.
You and I could argue/debate the rights and wrongs or either clubs suitability for SL and who should/should not be considered til the cows come home (which incidently I'm not inclinded to do), but the RFL will stick to their own agenda regardless of how it looks - regardles of whether it's Fev, Fax or another club who are awarded the interim licence.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Chris. I can see the "if Braford do go @r_se uppards, pick us, don't pick Fev" post, but it matters not one jot. I kind of agree with wyti87.
These are extraordinary times. Just assuming that Bradford do indeed go out of business or return as a shadow of themselves, i.e Crusaders, then the RFL will put into SL exactly who they want regardless of whether you think it's right or wrong.
You and I could argue/debate the rights and wrongs or either clubs suitability for SL and who should/should not be considered til the cows come home (which incidently I'm not inclinded to do), but the RFL will stick to their own agenda regardless of how it looks - regardles of whether it's Fev, Fax or another club who are awarded the interim licence.'"
I'm pretty much inclined to agree. I really don't see any point in Fax or Fev wasting time and money in putting together any sort of bid to apply to something that doesn't want them, when we have a major final to enjoy.
Also, can't see the ABC consortium pumping money in to a team that may not be in SL, pretty much the same as Wakey, as I'm sure the Crusaders were primed well before the night before to pull out, but that's just my conspiracy theory.
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| Quote ="chris_smith"I think this article is pie in the sky but for me Fev did not want to apply for a license to cover this current 3 year period and also haven't spent 6 months of hard graft putting an application together! We were the only team to lose out on the license debacle last year and were deemed worthy to apply and fit for a license. Fev if I remember rightly declined to apply for a license in this period as they stated they weren't ready??? As much as I think this story is a load of c rap the only logical and fair option is for Bradford and Halifax to swap places! Fev declined to apply and surely would need to do the due diligence of having a license review and the paper work done?? Not sure they reach all the criteria either on avg attendances, ground etc?? Yet more drivel to keep RL in the news for the wrong reasons I reckon.'"
I agree, it's right that Halifax should be the standby team for this period, being the only one that applied.
I personally think that an elevation to SL at this moment would ruin Fev, we are building for 2015, not 2013.
That said, if Faisal has got a team of backers and the RFL come knocking, I won't argue with them.
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Quote ="chris_smith"I think this article is pie in the sky but for me Fev did not want to apply for a license to cover this current 3 year period and also haven't spent 6 months of hard graft putting an application together! We were the only team to lose out on the license debacle last year and were deemed worthy to apply and fit for a license. Fev if I remember rightly declined to apply for a license in this period as they stated they weren't ready??? As much as I think this story is a load of c rap the only logical and fair option is for Bradford and Halifax to swap places! Fev declined to apply and surely would need to do the due diligence of having a license review and the paper work done?? Not sure they reach all the criteria either on avg attendances, ground etc?? Yet more drivel to keep RL in the news for the wrong reasons I reckon.'"
You right Fev haven't spent 6 months getting an application together the have spent much longer. If Fax only spent 6 months then its probably part of the reason they were denied. Its quite a while since those applications from Fax and Widnes first went In and Fev have been building ever since and have had a few meeting with the RL and updates about their status. Pretty naive to say fev haven't spent 6 months hard graft and that checks need to be done etc. The RL know exactly were we are ( featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=7943). We have moved on a lot and are now awaiting approval from the council for our ground development plans. This was one of the main reasons for not applying when fax did.
Fax have one advantage over fev and one only - thats the ground. The fact is SL want teams that can compete and currently theres only one team in the Championship that could do and its not fax. I think there will be shift from off field being more important.. My opinion i that they will keep Bradford in it, But if not then it should be one of Fev Leigh or sheffield The teams who meet the on field criteria since the last Review
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You right Fev haven't spent 6 months getting an application together the have spent much longer. If Fax only spent 6 months then its probably part of the reason they were denied. Its quite a while since those applications from Fax and Widnes first went In and Fev have been building ever since and have had a few meeting with the RL and updates about their status. Pretty naive to say fev haven't spent 6 months hard graft and that checks need to be done etc. The RL know exactly were we are ( featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=7943). We have moved on a lot and are now awaiting approval from the council for our ground development plans. This was one of the main reasons for not applying when fax did.
Fax have one advantage over fev and one only - thats the ground. The fact is SL want teams that can compete and currently theres only one team in the Championship that could do and its not fax. I think there will be shift from off field being more important.. My opinion i that they will keep Bradford in it, But if not then it should be one of Fev Leigh or sheffield The teams who meet the on field criteria since the last Review
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Quote ="fevfan76"You right Fev haven't spent 6 months getting an application together the have spent much longer. If Fax only spent 6 months then its probably part of the reason they were denied. Its quite a while since those applications from Fax and Widnes first went In and Fev have been building ever since and have had a few meeting with the RL and updates about their status. Pretty naive to say fev haven't spent 6 months hard graft and that checks need to be done etc. The RL know exactly were we are (featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=7943). We have moved on a lot and are now awaiting approval from the council for our ground development plans. This was one of the main reasons for not applying when fax did.
Fax have one advantage over fev and one only - thats the ground. The fact is SL want teams that can compete and currently theres only one team in the Championship that could do and its not fax. I think there will be shift from off field being more important.. My opinion i that they will keep Bradford in it, But if not then it should be one of Fev Leigh or sheffield
The teams who meet the on field criteria since the last Review'"
Silly Silly Man, You havnt applied for a Franchise licence for 2012-2015, You havnt ticked the boxes for stadium, Average crowds etc yet just becuase in the first year of the 3 year licence you have ticked one box you think its right you should go in, Get a hold of yourself Man. If this was the case i can certainly see Legal implications that you were just invited it. If anyone was to go in within this license period then it should be Halifax due to meeting all criterea for this license period, If however they want it done properly then it should be decided by Promotion and relegation perhaps for next year only, reducing the SL by one place and let everyone have one season to do the business within our Salary cap and within the rules, Provided this was done, then may the best team win.
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Fax have one advantage over fev and one only - thats the ground. The fact is SL want teams that can compete and currently theres only one team in the Championship that could do and its not fax. I think there will be shift from off field being more important.. My opinion i that they will keep Bradford in it, But if not then it should be one of Fev Leigh or sheffield
The teams who meet the on field criteria since the last Review'"
Silly Silly Man, You havnt applied for a Franchise licence for 2012-2015, You havnt ticked the boxes for stadium, Average crowds etc yet just becuase in the first year of the 3 year licence you have ticked one box you think its right you should go in, Get a hold of yourself Man. If this was the case i can certainly see Legal implications that you were just invited it. If anyone was to go in within this license period then it should be Halifax due to meeting all criterea for this license period, If however they want it done properly then it should be decided by Promotion and relegation perhaps for next year only, reducing the SL by one place and let everyone have one season to do the business within our Salary cap and within the rules, Provided this was done, then may the best team win.
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| lol your the silly man. Batley could have applied for a license, it didn't mean they met the criteria. Don't think just because you applied you ticked every box. You definitely didn't. You applied for a license for the start of the franchise period for 3 years. You were denied game over. Doesn't mean you were on reserve just incase a team drops out.
Fev chose to tick more boxes and put a better application together
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To be honest it was a bit tongue in cheek as they have actually met the on field criteria this time round for a license
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| Quote ="fevfan76"lol your the silly man. Batley could have applied for a license, it didn't mean they met the criteria. [size=150Don't think just because you applied you ticked every box. You definitely didn't.[/size You applied for a license for the start of the franchise period for 3 years. You were denied game over. Doesn't mean you were on reserve just incase a team drops out.'"
Watch the announcement on you tube when the licenses were awarded , Nigel Wood confirmed that 2 Championship teams applied for a license and only Halifax were good enough to be thrown in the Mix and met the criterea, Barrows was not up to scratch. YES THATS RIGHT HALIFAX MET THE CRITERIA/b, He also went onto state that the RFL had the right to revoke anyones license and replace them with another team, Basically this was to appease fans due to the Wakefield and Castleford ground issue, Go and watch it as it is firmly inbedded in my memory, when asked why fax were not in and wakey were it was said that the financial forecasts were speculative, WE TICKED EVERY BOX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really do need to go and have a look you bitter man.
The minimum criteria for a Championship club to be awarded a Super League licence are:
a. Club has reached a Championship Final or won the Northern Rail Cup in 2009 or 2010. TICK Do you remember this one ?. Drop goal or something i remember.
b. Club has a stadium with an operational capacity of 10,000. TICK not one that isnt even assembled yet
c. Club has turnover of at least £1,000,000 in financial year ending 2009 or 2010 (turnover of charitable Foundation can be included in this figure). TICK
d. Club has an average attendance of at least 2500 in 2009 or 2010. TICK Batley brought 3000 to the final game of the season
Oh look, dont let the facts get in the way though.
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As Harry Hill would say,
I like FevFan76,
I like faxhali,
So how do I decide,
FIIIIGHT.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"He also went onto state that the RFL had the right to revoke anyones license and replace them with another team'"
Doesn't say which team or a failed bidder etc
Yeah I vaguely remember the drop goal (seems such a long time ago, we won plenty since then), I think came after the interruption of Fax fans trying to burn the stand down
Bitter????
Bitter about what, absolutely nothing to be bitter about. Neither of us are in super league, RL will most likely keep Bradford in. Far better to be a Fev fan at the moment than any other team outside of SL so why bitter.
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Shifted ?
What do you mean - "shifted" ?
My understanding of the word "shifted" is that it was somewhere and now it's somewhere else.
Where else was it ever going to be ?
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| Quote ="fevfan76"Doesn't say which team or a failed bidder etc
Yeah I vaguely remember the drop goal (seems such a long time ago, we won plenty since then), I think came after the interruption of Fax fans trying to burn the stand down
Bitter????
Bitter about what, absolutely nothing to be bitter about. Neither of us are in super league, RL will most likely keep Bradford in. Far better to be a Fev fan at the moment than any other team outside of SL so why bitter.'"
I put bitter because of the way i percieve your posts. You just rant away without using the facts what so ever. Signs of a bitter man.
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| Quote ="Faxhali"I put bitter because of the way i percieve your posts. You just rant away without using the facts what so ever. Signs of a bitter man.'"
Oxford Dictionary
Bitter - Speaking / posting without first seeking facts
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| Quote ="Faxhali"TICK Batley brought 3000 to the final game of the season
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Can't believe I saw these two sentences in the same post. Pinch me, someone.
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| I think as far as Rovers are concerned this is a win / win situation.
At the least it keeps some pressure on the RFL by reminding then of Fev achievements both in the Championship over the last few years and more recently against current SL opponents in the CC.
Whilst there is no chance of them replacing Wigan even if they had beaten them that is not the case with Cas come the next round of applications.
If an earlier than expected oppourtunity presented itself then Rovers are saying, look here we are with finacial clout to back us which out of all the so called boxes to tick seems to be at the forefront of the rest of them at the moment.
It worked for Widnes why not Fev.
As a Fax fan I am more concerned that it was Feisal Nahaboo who stated this.
Correct me if i'm wrong but it was Fax who first introduced Feisal to Rugby League and he did sponser us for a short while.
He is now backing Rovers so having seen close up, first hand both clubs my question is what did he see at Fax, if anything that he did not like so he chose to go to Fev.
Might be nothing, simply that they were the top side in the comp, but it leaves me a bit uneasy that all was not quite right at the Shay
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Bramall Lane.
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Oh ...... really ?
Unlikely, since it was known full well at the time of the draw that Bramall Lane would be being relaid at the weekend of the semi-final.
Don Valley is our registered ground, not Bramall Lane. We've played Superleague games there before and we could do it again.
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O'k I accept and appologise.
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Who cares anyway? I'd be aghast if we got into $uperleague in 2013.
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| Fev will get SL afer all they have Lee Crooks!
and Faisel is going to pump £7m for their new ground
and they are going to play us every week to pump up their attendances.
Well done Fev enjoy SL
sip of coffee, we'll all be in the champ come 2014 and deep down we know it!
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| I seem to remember someone getting a few C class stars to put Halifax shirts on, and saying he was prepared to put millions into Halifax when they got a Super league Licence. We plastered his company’s name all over the ground. When it came apparent we were not getting a licence he disappeared. I do believe he moved house, somewhere in north Yorkshire, Pontefract I think.
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