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| Quote ="rovers"You have no idea of any facts,'"
23-22, thats one fact, Halifax RLFC are the Champions of the Co-Operative Championship 2010 that's another fact and finally 22-4 up and you screwed it up, thats another fact
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| Oh I'm sorry where my eyes lying to me and was everyone else who sat in the North stand watching your abysmal behaviour and commentating on how terrible it was wrong too. Did I imagine the idiot who abused my wife and I when we left the stadium too.
If I have no idea of the facts, please enlighten me on why the police had to enter the south stand and remove individuals.
You sir are a complete idiot, crawl back to your own board and play with the children.
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| I don't recall one Halifax fan being dragged out of the West Stand before the evacuation There were atleast 2 Fev fans that had to go after we scored our 1st try as we all started chanting 'throw them out'.
As I mentioned on another thread. Why are people trying to work out who goaded who first? Christ on a bike, of the 100's of sports games i've been to there's rarely been a game where there wasn't goading or banter, if every Halifax fan came on to the pitch and one-by-one stuck the middle finger up at Fev, that's not a good enough reason to charge down to start a fight. Just stick one back up at us. Have these people got no self-control. Nevermind that not ALL Halifax fans did do that (clearly some were) but none wanted a chuffing fight.
Out of all the photos I have here, all the ones of Fax fans are them smiling and waving at Fev fans etc (as i say, some still stuck the finger up, but not a constant enough stream to clearly be caught on camera). The one's of Fev fans are slightly different though.
Truth? You lot can't handle the truth.
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| The fev fans reacted the way they did becuase of the pathetic tannoy system, nobody head that there was a fire and thought it was a pitch invasion. The Halifax fans reacted the way they did because of the reaction of the Fev fans. Can people please stop merging a few incidents into one massive riot. It could quite easily be much worse if the Police and Stewards weren't there to stop the Fev fans from getting onto the pitch.
I only saw one piece of violence the entire day and that was the assault on David. I spent four hours in pubs around the ground with Fev fans and there was nothing but good banter. Thats what I will choose to remember.
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| Strange, one minute your post says
Quote You have no idea of any facts,'"
Then when you are proven wrong you change it to
Quote I have never kicked or half kicked anyone to death,
The halo is yours, read the threads and the Halifax fans refusal to accept there fans part in all of this is unreal. The attempt to burn the stand down, the goading on the pitch, ow i forgot we called you wnkrs, the police charging in your stand dragging folk out. This was there for the world to see, you are far from blameless in a shocking day'"
Did it take you 3 hours to think this up, why not just post again, why try and mislead by completely changing your post.
You're a strange little boy.
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| Quote ="rovers"I have never kicked or half kicked anyone to death,
The halo is yours, read the threads and the Halifax fans refusal to accept there fans part in all of this is unreal. The attempt to burn the stand down, the goading on the pitch, ow i forgot we called you wnkrs, the police charging in your stand dragging folk out. This was there for the world to see, you are far from blameless in a shocking day'"
I dont think anyone has ever said fax fans were all angels, i was on the pitch with everyone else, im sorry we didnt have a guitar and couldnt muster up Come by Yar or All you need is love They wouldnt let me in with one.
The general point people are making is that nobody deserves to be assaulted for supporting a team, some people that were drunk and disorderly were ejected from different stands supporting different clubs, someone misplaced a tab end, the Police, Fire and Ambulence services dealt with incidents, all of which happen in normal daily life somewhere in our country, people like Peter Roe should choose their words and tone more carefully in what is a highly sensitive issue when someone is lying stricken in Hospital. Journalists and Editors generally want to sell papers, lets not let facts get in the way of a good story now.
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| Peter who...?
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| Quote ="rovers"What planet are you on? there was no fighting in the south stand
The police charged into the Fax fans and started dragging people out, but lets not let the truth get in the way eh.
This was a tragedy waiting to happen, the person who started the fire is no way blameless, he racketed the tension up a couple of notches, as did the fax fans goading the Fev fans on the pitch, the fev fans trying to get on the pitch added to it. The Fax fans battling amongst themselves, after all this why the hellll did the police let all the fans leave the stadium at the same time, in the same dark car park, with no police precence. There is plenty of blame to be thrown around, i just hope the lad pulls through'"
What a load of utter garbage.
So YOU KNOW the fire was deliberate do you? Not some cig end thrown near some cardboard that was seen on fire maybe by accident? (yer okay they should not have been smoking in a no smoking stadium but loads were doing it at Wembley at half time this year and I have smelt smoke in lots of other 'no smoking' stadiums in the toilets) Lets see what the stadium or police/fire services say when they have done their investigations shall we? I don't know exactly what happened but why would somebody do it deliberateley we were only 12-4 down at the time?
The Fev fans DID run towards the Fax fans as soon as we went onto the pitch and it was after that that a few of our fans started a bit of 'goading' which was chanting Halifax and stuff in the Fev fans direction, hardly reason to threaten us with violence like they did.
My mate noticed that the Fev stand had lots of stewards in front of it not long after the game had kicked off, notice none were in front of our stand in the first half only after we got moved to the other end??? At the end of the game some Fev fans made a point of flashing V signs and other stuff at us over in the corner of your stand on their way out and being very aggressive, good job there was a policewoman there and steward to prevent them getting any nearer.
Letting fans out at the same time??? You may not have noticed but most Fev fans had left when we were celebrating our win (who would blame them I don't) okay some stayed early on to applaud their team but ALL had gone after 10 minutes or so, we stayed for about 15 to 20 minutes as you do when you have WON!
So it was a surprise to me when we got back to the DHL car park that a few Fev coaches were still there and even more of a surprise that some had Fev fans hanging around outside their coaches and BELIEVE me they had one thing in mind, to threaten the Fax fans, it was very intimidating and I have been to some football away games so I have seen this before and it was just like that. I was told by a Fev fan to put my flag away as there were some Fev fans that would have a go if I didn't - FACT.
You saying why did the police let us all out together and not have police in the coach park proves to me that you have doubts about your own fans, I agree there should have been police there but normally RL fans get along and have no problem, like last year against Barrow this is not football!
Nah SOME Fev fans did not take losing very well and sadly one of our fans has suffered as a result.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"What a load of utter garbage.
So YOU KNOW the fire was deliberate do you? Not some cig end thrown near some cardboard that was seen on fire maybe by accident? (yer okay they should not have been smoking in a no smoking stadium but loads were doing it at Wembley at half time this year and I have smelt smoke in lots of other 'no smoking' stadiums in the toilets) Lets see what the stadium or police/fire services say when they have done their investigations shall we? I don't know exactly what happened but why would somebody do it deliberateley we were only 12-4 down at the time?
The Fev fans DID run towards the Fax fans as soon as we went onto the pitch and it was after that that a few of our fans started a bit of 'goading' which was chanting Halifax and stuff in the Fev fans direction, hardly reason to threaten us with violence like they did.
My mate noticed that the Fev stand had lots of stewards in front of it not long after the game had kicked off, notice none were in front of our stand in the first half only after we got moved to the other end???
Letting fans out at the same time??? You may not have noticed but all the Fev fans had left when we were celebrating our win (who would blame them I don't) okay some stayed early on to applaud their team but ALL had gone after 10 minutes or so, we stayed for about 15 to 20 minutes as you do when you have WON!
So it was a surprise to me when we got back to the DHL car park that a few Fev coaches were still there and even more of a surprise that some had Fev fans hanging around outside their coaches and BELIEVE me they had one thing in mind, to threaten the Fax fans, it was very intimidating and I have been to some football away games so I have seen this before and it was just like that. I was told by a Fev fan to put my flag away as there were some Fev fans that would have a go if I didn't - FACT.
You saying why did the police let us all out and not have police in the coach park proves to me that you have doubts about your own fans, I agree there should have been police there but normally RL fans get along and have no problem, like last year against Barrow!
Nah SOME Fev fans did not take losing very well and sadly one of our fans has suffered as a result.'"
That just about sums it up for me the stewards were not just in front of the Fev stand either they were in it. It kicked off in the Fev stand before the fire as there were tannoy calls asking for Fev supporters to cooperate and get off the yellow sections the police moved in then.The Fev stand soon emptied after thematch as there was hardly anybody in the stand to watch their own team collect their medals. Well for that matter even the players couldn`t be bothered to collect them either only 4 or 5 came up to begin with the other few were brought from the dressing room in various states of undress eg no boots, no socks and boots no shirt. The others I don`t think came up at all.
I have every sympathy with Fev fans we lost last year too but we never had the problem with the Barrow fans we shook hands with many and told them they deserved the win. I was disgusted with what hapened on Sunday and to try to excuse the intimidation of Fax fans all day and the beating up of a nice lad( who has a job where he saves lives)by blameing the lack of policing is just sick.
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| Post Office Road is the only stadium where I have been attacked after a match in 30 years of watching rugby. A few years ago now but I resolved never to return there and never have.
All clubs have idiots, but that incident and the general antogonism from the fans I encountered tells me the club has a problem thats a little deeper than they are admitting.
As for Peter Roe, I would have called him a has-been but he never achieved enough to warrant the tag.
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| Quote ="rovers"So you think the police charging in to drag fax fans out, the arsonist who tried to burn the stand down equates to only 1%, fair play to you'"
Utter garbage comment..none of this is true....
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"What a load of utter garbage.
So YOU KNOW the fire was deliberate do you? Not some cig end thrown near some cardboard that was seen on fire maybe by accident? (yer okay they should not have been smoking in a no smoking stadium but loads were doing it at Wembley at half time this year and I have smelt smoke in lots of other 'no smoking' stadiums in the toilets) Lets see what the stadium or police/fire services say when they have done their investigations shall we? I don't know exactly what happened but why would somebody do it deliberateley we were only 12-4 down at the time?
The Fev fans DID run towards the Fax fans as soon as we went onto the pitch and it was after that that a few of our fans started a bit of 'goading' which was chanting Halifax and stuff in the Fev fans direction, hardly reason to threaten us with violence like they did.
My mate noticed that the Fev stand had lots of stewards in front of it not long after the game had kicked off, notice none were in front of our stand in the first half only after we got moved to the other end??? At the end of the game some Fev fans made a point of flashing V signs and other stuff at us over in the corner of your stand on their way out and being very aggressive, good job there was a policewoman there and steward to prevent them getting any nearer.
Letting fans out at the same time??? You may not have noticed but most Fev fans had left when we were celebrating our win (who would blame them I don't) okay some stayed early on to applaud their team but ALL had gone after 10 minutes or so, we stayed for about 15 to 20 minutes as you do when you have WON!
So it was a surprise to me when we got back to the DHL car park that a few Fev coaches were still there and even more of a surprise that some had Fev fans hanging around outside their coaches and BELIEVE me they had one thing in mind, to threaten the Fax fans, it was very intimidating and I have been to some football away games so I have seen this before and it was just like that. I was told by a Fev fan to put my flag away as there were some Fev fans that would have a go if I didn't - FACT.
You saying why did the police let us all out together and not have police in the coach park proves to me that you have doubts about your own fans, I agree there should have been police there but normally RL fans get along and have no problem, like last year against Barrow this is not football!
Nah SOME Fev fans did not take losing very well and sadly one of our fans has suffered as a result.'"
Well said that man
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| Quote ="Fax Missionary"Post Office Road is the only stadium where I have been attacked after a match in 30 years of watching rugby. A few years ago now but I resolved never to return there and never have.
All clubs have idiots, but that incident and the general antogonism from the fans I encountered tells me the club has a problem thats a little deeper than they are admitting.
As for Peter Roe, I would have called him a has-been but he never achieved enough to warrant the tag.'"
Funny isn't it....in my little land of so called make belief...got punched missen in the early 90s there....wing mirror kicked off last year after the semi...funny innit same old same old...only stadium for me too mate...and Ive been to all of em lots...
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| Quote ="The Mouth"Utter garbage comment..none of this is true....'"
What the hell you talking about not true, the whole world saw the police dragging fax fans out, and why the helll were you on the pitch ? Because you have an arsonist amongst you and it is the 2nd time in a matter of weeks it has happened
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| Quote ="rovers"What the hell you talking about not true, the whole world saw the police dragging fax fans out, and why the helll were you on the pitch ? Because you have an arsonist amongst you and it is the 2nd time in a matter of weeks it has happened'"
You have mindless yobs amongst you FACT!
FEV - what's the point? just merge with CAS and F off.
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| Quote ="rovers"What the hell you talking about not true, the whole world saw the police dragging fax fans out, and why the helll were you on the pitch ? Because you have an arsonist amongst you and it is the 2nd time in a matter of weeks it has happened'"
What 'whole world' is this? Having watched the sky+ play back 'as live', there's no Halifax fans being dragged off.
There appears to be no photos of Halifax fans being dragged off from a number of sources, but plenty of Fev fans.
There appears to be no eye-witness accounts of Halifax fans being dragged off other than the Fev story tellers, but people saw Fev fans being dragged off.
You're free to stop talking e whenever you like. At the moment you're just embarrassing yourself.
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| Quote ="tommy"What 'whole world' is this? Having watched the sky+ play back 'as live', there's no Halifax fans being dragged off.
There appears to be no photos of Halifax fans being dragged off from a number of sources, but plenty of Fev fans.
There appears to be no eye-witness accounts of Halifax fans being dragged off other than the Fev story tellers, but people saw Fev fans being dragged off.
You're free to stop talking e whenever you like. At the moment you're just embarrassing yourself.'"
Looks like this is getting out of hand.
My account of the day.
I remember all Halifax fans looked in good spirits before the game. I remember been intimidated by different groups of Fev fans before the game who looked intent on causing trouble. I remember the police been called to a couple of pubs to calm them down.
The fire started in our stand, i havnt bothered to read the ins and outs of it but it obviously wasnt started the minute Rovers took the lead, thats just ridiculous. Who is to blam i have no idea. I remember us getting evacuated and a bunch of Fev fans charging down the centre of their stand to try and get on the pitch, this can be seen on the Sky replay. I remember a Fev fan assaulting a female police officer and getting dragged off once we were on the pitch and numurous Fev fans getting pushed back in to their stand by the stewards. I didnt see any intimidating tactics by Fax fans but i stood near the goal posts and only heard them singing to the Fev fans.
In the second half i saw one Fax fan been dragged out after having been pepper sprayed. I then saw numurous Fax fans run on to the pitch at the end and one of them been pinned down and then dragged of by a number of Stewards or police.
Then walking back to the coaches a Fax fan is attacked in a cowardly act and is left fighting for his life by Fev fans.
People should stop taking the holier than thou thinking. Both parties caused some trouble to some degree. Featherstone fans were by far the worst but lets not turn a blind eye to the Fact that some Fax fans were no angels either.
It was a great day on the Rugby front but in my eyes a very sad day when people cant go to a rugby match without feeling safe. The RFL should pull out all the stops next season to remind people that this is a family sport, friendly banter is acceptable and welcomed but violence and intimidation should be left to the football fans.
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| Aye, I saw that lad get piled on by stewards after the drop kick haha but that's the expected appoach from stewards etc. The lad was clearly celebrating, as were the other fans. There's no malice in these celebrations though, some folk do just get a bit emotional if they're close to the pitch during a try/goal etc
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| Quote ="tommy"What 'whole world' is this? Having watched the sky+ play back 'as live', there's no Halifax fans being dragged off.
There appears to be no photos of Halifax fans being dragged off from a number of sources, but plenty of Fev fans.
There appears to be no eye-witness accounts of Halifax fans being dragged off other than the Fev story tellers, but people saw Fev fans being dragged off.
You're free to stop talking e whenever you like. At the moment you're just embarrassing yourself.'"
So i imagined coppers charging up the east stand dragging folk out did i, making false allegations in a serious investigation will help no one, there was no battling in the south stand
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| Quote ="tommy"Aye, I saw that lad get piled on by stewards after the drop kick haha but that's the expected appoach from stewards etc. The lad was clearly celebrating, as were the other fans. There's no malice in these celebrations though, some folk do just get a bit emotional if they're close to the pitch during a try/goal etc
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Your fans go on the pitch and no malice involved, ours are on causing bother, take those tinted specs off for gawds sake
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"You have mindless yobs amongst you FACT!
FEV - what's the point? just merge with CAS and F off.'"
You have an arsonist amongst you FACT
Fax-whats the point? merge with oldham and F off.
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| Quote ="rovers"You have an arsonist amongst you FACT
Fax-whats the point? merge with oldham and F off.'"
Geography obviously not your strong point.
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| Quote ="rovers"You have an arsonist amongst you FACT
Fax-whats the point? merge with oldham and F off.'"
So you have concluded the investigation and trail already have you. You can prove conclusively who started the fire and when?
As far as I know there are no eye witness statements that are associated with the fire, unlike the eye witness accounts of the behaviour of the Fev fans.
As for the Fax fan being removed from the South Stand, please see the relevant thread as it is explained there.
You really are a small minded unintelligent buffoon.
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| This thread has run its course. It's gone off topic.
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