Plenty of worlds worst coaches for Leeds Rhinos then - prior to their recent successes.

Im sure Matt is acutely aware of the expectations and to be fair we are doing alright thus far!

What grounds are you assessing our assessing our playing budget as don't forget we lost a big sponsor in December with the demise of Link Telecom and a new 2 year deal

Don't be silly, Halifax's wage bill must be at least more than double that of Batley. I'd go as far to say that the trio of Penkywicz, Gene and Aizue will be on more money put together than the whole of Batley's squad over the course of a season.

Halifax get 2,000+ attendances (with some 3,500+ in there aswell) , Batley get about 800. We have more sponsors than you can throw a stick at, some of which will be 6 figure sums i would have thought. We'll also get prize money and what-not from certain games aswell. I'd guess these are mainly what s/he's basing our budget on compared to Batleys

How are Batley possibly have near us in terms of playing budget?

Directors loans and our contracts being incentive based rather than a pro annum lump sum? I'm not saying either is case, just throwing it out there.

My word dont some folk talk bollox and im from Batley

Aye but our incentives are probably higher than Batleys though. Im not suggesting we're rich, or even how our club is run, but it's a fair assumption that with the above fact and the players in our squad, our budget is clearly higher than Batleys would you not say?

As a neutral I'd say that's a very fair assessment. I thought Wrench should have been binned sooner though. I was looking forward to this game but Ronnie chose to steal the spotlight - again!

Have u got a proper job with batley then? if so well done

Rob was just stupid and clumsy rather than anything dirty etc-but obviously some people like to create something out of nothing. Laughton the Clown pinged batley for everything first half-then seemed to stop doing it in the second then vice versa for fax! Thanks for ruining the game laughton-try and be a bit consistant!

branighan did well. Black did OK but is still not matchfit for me. Penky is a Jekyl and Hyde charactor who does some really excellent things and set up a couple of ties near to the line-then just has brainstorms like shoving people over which could easily see him in the bin. The players did not have a clue in defence due to one mr Laughton. Normally you can guess how long a ref will let you hold a man down-not with laughton! Must be really frustrating as a player. I think the offsides were pedantic. If Laughton bothered talking to players to step back etc then that would be better than blowing up all the time.

We won and we did not play that well. We let batley back in to the game which is disappointing but least we won. Hopefully with the better weather we can get to see us in a more flowing team

"it wasn't a malicious tackle" because it wasn't even a bluddy tackle! Rob just stood there and Campbell decided to leap for the ball over Rob's head .... land on Rob ... then fall awkwardly to the ground. Then we had all those brain dead morons in the corner squealling like lunatics to get Rob sent off! It shouldn't have even been a penalty, just "play on".

It was a Penalty for the reason that Worincy didnt challenge for the ball and thats what the ref said to him when he was talking to him. It was a pure accident the Batley player landing on his head but it really came about because it didnt look like Worrincy fancied it, he has a sneaky look and sees the full back running full pelt and basically pulled out.

Im sure Ronnie the Laughing Idiot said to Rob that he had to contest the ball.... Rob didnt do anything other than what you say.Penalty fair enough, but no other action... for once Ron was right!!!

Has anyone mentioned Campbell's 'Ronaldo' impression when Penky shoved him? Has he been taking lessons from certain 'Haven players?

He also made a meal of the Rob incident. I have now had chance to watch a recording of the match. Ronnie's reffing was as bad as it appeared. He made some horrendous calls, the worst being Wrench's sin binning, one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. I also noticed on at least a couple of occasions he shouted "Is that zero or first tackle?" Who was he asking? The touch judges? Doesn't he know the rules?

Unfortunately RL, more than any other sport, is at the mercy of the refs. And more unfortunately Ronnie, despite clearly being totally inept, will continue to torment us in the future

RU is more at the mercy to Ref's than RL! Just pick 1 of the 6 nations game to see my point!

Damn right - can't argue against that. I watched approximately 10 minutes of that shower of a match yesterday. Truly - it was the most boring sporting event (or part of) that i have ever witnessed. John Inverdale called it "fascinating"

Andy Nicol described it perfectly saying for the Rugby purist, who love the tactical aspects of RU, scrums, line-outs, slow rucks and mauls it was indeed fascinating as there was plenty of those occasions.

But for the rest of us who actually wanted to see some rugby it was utter boredom.

You are such a hypocrite! Last week you were " sick of whinge bags like me" always going on about the ref and now here you are doing the same but to a greater degree! I rest my case!

bring back Tony Fax 2

Foot in mouth time from softlad66. Ronnie's performance last Thursday was a TRUE and CLEAR example of bad refereeing. The ref of the Ovenden match was so much better, yet you demonstrated embarrassing ignorance to state otherwise. Yet again my sig "Am I right? I'm not wrong!" holds true. I rest my case

By the contents of your posts you truely are an arrogant individual "Am i right? I`m not wrong!" I have proven you to be a hypocrite with your own words and thats good enough for me. My comments are consistent and based on personal opinion. So dear TonyFax "am i wrong again! Yes i am!" Should be your appropriate quote. Your own words condemn you as we all can see. I would rather be true to my comments that look silly such as you clearly do! Guilty ma` Lord!

I am away for a week now Tony so it should give you some time to think of something that doesnt make you look like a hypocrite...again!

Does he have to challenge for the ball? As long as he didn't step into the Batley players path to obstruct him surely it's Rob's prerogative to make that descision and the Batley player should have gone round him not over and through him?