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| I am sure it will all come clear this week and I am not too concerned.
I cant see any financial difficulties as the last balance sheet although not brilliant wasn't showing any significant financial exposure.
The club hasn't squandered any money, players in have replaced players out. The obvious negatives were lack of pre-season income and the downfall of our major sponsor but a good solid cup run and the new signing of sponsors should more than mitigate this.
I think the club is on a sound sustainable footing at the moment which is credit to BODs and of course us the Fans.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Now that is one of the issues that the club need to sort out - Freebies and 'hangers on'.
If I was to ask people to be honest and say if they get free tickets to games and into the Sponsors Lounge etc... (I am not on about from sponsors but somebody who pays NOTHING to the club at all but expects because they were something at the club or did something for them for free some years ago) my guess is there will be quite a few - why?
TRUE fans of a club be they fans on the terraces or in the Board room back their club financially as well as being at matches. We have some great people at the club who give many hours for free but nobody should expect everything for free forever as the club is not big enough and needs us all to 'chip in' by buying season tickets etc...
We do not have an Uncle Des or Eddie Stobbards type of sponsor, we can only compete if we ALL help.'"
Freebies and Halifax RLFC, never. More free tickets coming out of that office than I don't know what. Only problem is that they go to people who would pay in every week anyway. Funny in the diners section home and away it's usually a who's who of hangers on on free dinner tickets, which usually also includes people who work for the club for 'free'.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Freebies and Halifax RLFC, never.
More free tickets coming out of that office than I don't know what. Only problem is that they go to people who would pay in every week anyway. Funny in the diners section home and away it's usually a who's who of hangers on on free dinner tickets, which usually also includes people who work for the club for 'free'.'"
I don't think i've ever read a pro-Halifax post from you on here. Are you a fan?
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"I am sure it will all come clear this week and I am not too concerned.
I cant see any financial difficulties as the last balance sheet although not brilliant wasn't showing any significant financial exposure.
The club hasn't squandered any money, players in have replaced players out. The obvious negatives were lack of pre-season income and the downfall of our major sponsor but a good solid cup run and the new signing of sponsors should more than mitigate this.
I think the club is on a sound sustainable footing at the moment which is credit to BODs and of course us the Fans.'"
I hope you'r right and there is nothing lurking to bite us on the bum
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| Quote ="littlerich"I don't think i've ever read a pro-Halifax post from you on here. Are you a fan?'"
I wouldn't follow us home and away to every single game if I wasn't.
Because I have an opinion of what I feel is wrong with the club and are willing to voice it on here dosnt mean that I arnt.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldn't follow us home and away to every single game if I wasn't.
Because I have an opinion of what I feel is wrong with the club and are willing to voice it on here dosnt mean that I arnt.
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Just checking.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"I'm not being disparaging about the barmy army - I merely used them as an example of 'ordinary' supporters. I in fact mentioned them being passionate and loyal.
Neither am I knocking the good work and raising of money that the Trust does. it's just that ultimately (in my humble opinion) the trust is just the same as the supporters clubs that nearly all clubs have and raising money for the club is what they do. The trust was formed to buy a seat on the board if I remember rightly, to represent 'ordinary fans' I've always been surprised that directors didn't take offence at the insinuation that there has to be somebody amongst them 'policing' them, reporting back and protecting 'the club' from them. Maybe they did.
All I am saying is that Michael Steele, Ian Croad, and Steven Bonfield are supporters, and I question the principle being put forward that 'the fans' need any further representation when it's fans that are on the board as it is!'"
I t sounds disparaging to me to make comments about the "Supporters rep" on the" Commnity board" saying he was more like a committee member of a working mens club who was only bothered about badges and free tickets.Well not being "au fait" with how committee members of working mens clubs behave I will of course take your word for it.But I do believe our rep` was a useful member of the board at the timeNeither did I think the directors took offence at "ordinary fans" "policing them" as you call it.If I remember correctly theTrust was invited on the board when the board became a community club and the Trust did not have to buy a place.Stephen Pearsons vision of the "community club" meant we were invited to take a place on the board and if as you say people without the money to bring to the table should be specialy picked also for business accumin etc. Well noone is disagreeing with that either but one might wonder why you put up for election to the board against Paul Dixon.
I was also unaware that Steven Bonifield was a director , thought he withdrew some considerable time ago but then there again I bow to your superior knowledge.
As I said earlier the fan who suggested to start a lottery of some kind was merely trying to be helpful towards the club as I think he probably thought they could do with the help and instead of being shouted down by you it may be better if someone from the club grabbed him and his initiative and ideas and worked with him and others to nurture the idea into something that may be more suitable for our club instead of someone like you belittleing the idea . Especially as he and others are more than willing to put an extra £1 in here and there which you must admit is very refreshing .
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| Quote ="exdysonroadie"Brew
You made a comment that Graham Clay was paid by the RFL and not the club. Please tell more? Why would the RFL pay for our CEO? or do they pay all clubs. It just seems a bizarre situation that the RFL would pay the salary of the boss of Halifax.'"
IIRC the RFL give Championship Clubs so much money per year, which is available as long as they employ a CEO and a Marketing Manager. So its basicly to cover the salary
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"I t sounds disparaging to me to make comments about the "Supporters rep" on the" Commnity board" saying he was more like a committee member of a working mens club who was only bothered about badges and free tickets.Well not being "au fait" with how committee members of working mens clubs behave I will of course take your word for it.But I do believe our rep` was a useful member of the board at the timeNeither did I think the directors took offence at "ordinary fans" "policing them" as you call it.If I remember correctly theTrust was invited on the board when the board became a community club and the Trust did not have to buy a place.Stephen Pearsons vision of the "community club" meant we were invited to take a place on the board and if as you say people without the money to bring to the table should be specialy picked also for business accumin etc. Well noone is disagreeing with that either but one might wonder why you put up for election to the board against Paul Dixon.
I was also unaware that Steven Bonifield was a director , thought he withdrew some considerable time ago but then there again I bow to your superior knowledge.
As I said earlier the fan who suggested to start a lottery of some kind was merely trying to be helpful towards the club as I think he probably thought they could do with the help and instead of being shouted down by you it may be better if someone from the club grabbed him and his initiative and ideas and worked with him and others to nurture the idea into something that may be more suitable for our club instead of someone like you belittleing the idea . Especially as he and others are more than willing to put an extra £1 in here and there which you must admit is very refreshing .'"
My my, you're bitter aren't you?
After sitting for an hour thinking of the best way to reply to this nonsense I think the best way is simply to be happy that you bow to my superior knowledge.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Freebies and Halifax RLFC, never.
More free tickets coming out of that office than I don't know what. Only problem is that they go to people who would pay in every week anyway. Funny in the diners section home and away it's usually a who's who of hangers on on free dinner tickets, which usually also includes people who work for the club for 'free'.'"
I know this to be categorically untrue - everybody has to pay their way on hospitality at the Club
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| Quote ="harry1"I know this to be categorically untrue - everybody has to pay their way on hospitality at the Club'"
I concur - I work for the club and paid for my rare day off for hospitality.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"My my, you're bitter aren't you?
After sitting for an hour thinking of the best way to reply to this nonsense I think the best way is simply to be happy that you bow to my superior knowledge.'"
This has to be the funniest thing I've read in ages. The poster spends an hour trying to come up with a reply, is unable to, and still believes he has "superior knowledge". This is a forum, not a knowledge contest. All reasonable opinions are welcome irrespective of the level of intellect.
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| Quote ="Officeboy"My my, you're bitter aren't you?
After sitting for an hour thinking of the best way to reply to this nonsense I think the best way is simply to be happy that you bow to my superior knowledge.'"
Bitter?? No I am most definatly not . I am enjoying my rugby and my involvment with the club I have supported since 1953 ,I am happy with the people who run the club and unlike you have no aspirations to be on the board. Nor would I like you, knock anyone who has done a dificult unpaid job in their own time either.
I am gratful our club is still going due to various people in our past and present history investing time and money in what seems at times to be an uphill struggle for most of the time but The Supporters Trust would be very grateful to any fans who may have any ideas and are willing to put in the time to help pursue them if justhebasicfax wishes to pm me we are more than willing to listen. A germ of an idea could become a bit of a moneyspinner albeit under a differant format.I appeal to all true fans of the club to try to go the extra mile just at the moment we are after all in this together .
On another note may I also like to add that the Supporters Trust Committee volunteer workers for the club (one of whom works at the club 7 days a week )all pay for a season ticket.As such even though they have matchday jobs(ie) working in the shop ,selling programmes or just helping out unpaid the still pay in to watch the match.
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| Having seen the statement on the other thread from Mr Fax taken from the club page, I was just wondering when the full announcement is expected.
I fully trust the BODs yet if you are reading this please understand that we have had many an uncertain time over the years and having two important guys leave at the same time will set the alarm bells ringing.
I dont get into conspiracy theories and gossip, I am, like many fans, a little uneasy at the moment.
I have had my PC on pretty much since Saturday AM and when I saw the Mr Fax post at 8.30 this morning I was hoping for some light spreading on the situation.
Any news on the full press release yet anyone?
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| Perhaps Columbo can investigate the goings on?
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Perhaps Columbo can investigate the goings on?'"
Columbo was a homicide detective. Who's been murdered?
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| Quote ="triran"I concur - I work for the club and paid for my rare day off for hospitality.'"
Hey I am not saying all mate, just some.
I know RL is full of people who want everything for nothing and it is imo worse than football for that.
the point I am making is the club need to make sure that only thos who justify a freebie get it, and even then they should not expect it.
If we all want our club to do well we should all help by paying to get in at least!
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| Is anyone sure that the club give out freebies of any kind? Can you prove it?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Columbo was a homicide detective. Who's been murdered?'"
Your club by the looks of it, both these individuals leaving without any real explanation is worrying.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Your club by the looks of it, both these individuals leaving without any real explanation is worrying.'"
Both will be waiting for Michael Steele to return from his foreign trip before commenting. We do things with a little bit more decorum in Yorkshire pal.
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"Is anyone sure that the club give out freebies of any kind? Can you prove it?'"
Is this a level?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Is this a level?'"
That doesn't make sense in this context. What are you on about?
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| This whole thread makes little sense anymore.
Two directors have left and we gave gone from there to impending doom to wild accusations about freebies and who gets what
Anyone remember when we used to discuss RL instead of making stuff up?
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| Being totally honest. While I was on the board, I had a season ticket for 1 season and not the 2nd. I never got to watch a whole match due to helping out in one area or another of The Shay, and often travelled down from Hartlepool on a match day and I thought the amount of money I was spending on Sponsorship and the amount of time I invested in helping the club, more than compensated for the lack of a Season Ticket for games I was only watching for 20/30 mins.
I NEVER got and was NEVER offered a free meal on Match Days and the only Freebie I can think of was the RFL Away Day paid for by the RFL.
What DID disgust me was when expensive 3/4 length coats were being given out to some people by the shop, which I declined to take.
I know of free tickets given away to people. but they tend to be players tickets which they are entitled to and if they have no use for them, they are passed on to others who they usually know anyway.
Then there's Neil who organises the coaches who is given a free ticket to Raffle on the Coach and who (I BELIEVE) gets a ticket too, but who can possibly deny for the the amount of money he regularly raises and which (I BELIEVE) is an agreement dating back to The Taverners days. My apologies if this is wrong, but if it's correct, I certainly wouldn't have an issue with it.
Graham Clay was the best thing to happen to this club in a long long time IMO and Howard, as we all know, is a very well respected businessman. It's a shame they've gone.
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