Some clubs have released statements almost immediately, Cas did so before the IMG announcement, whatever our stance on the gradings is, it's obviously not getting put out in a rush

I can't see Fax saying too much to be honest, even the most one eyed fan had to know we are a long way off SL although it would be nice if the club were to release the full gradings so we could see how we scored on the hidden stuff.

At the moment it looks like only Hunslet have revealed their full gradings and the clubs are under no obligation to do this which just makes the whole thing a bit cloak and dagger but that is to be expected with the RFL.

Fax as a club have said nowt and haven't since this whole ludicrous shambles started. Why would they start now?

That is an excellent statement from Fev

Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Fax as a club have said nowt and haven't since this whole ludicrous shambles started. Why would they start now?'" Could be wrong and can’t be bothered to check but thought they had made a few statements about it in the past but in any case if they are going to say something now or in the very near future would seem to be the time period to do so with more of the details as to where they stand are being published, either way we’ll find out. PS: One previous statement https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... .%E2%80%9D

Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Fax as a club have said nowt and haven't since this whole ludicrous shambles started. Why would they start now?'" Could be wrong and can’t be bothered to check but thought they had made a few statements about it in the past but in any case if they are going to say something now or in the very near future would seem to be the time period to do so with more of the details as to where they stand are being published, either way we’ll find out. PS: One previous statement https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... .%E2%80%9D

IMG have announce that SL may go to 14 teams sooner than expected. This whole thing is a fu…king joke https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... -img-chief

IMG have announce that SL may go to 14 teams sooner than expected. This whole thing is a fu…king joke https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... -img-chief

2025 will be 14 team SL and an amalgamation league of championship and league1. The game will then go further down the toilet and die altogether with the only remaining teams the ones the RFL wanted when they brought licensing in years ago.

What a shambles. Why can't Rugby League just have 2 divisions, promotion and relegation based on what happens on the pitch, nice and simple. It's not rocket science and is a tried and trusted formula adopted by other sports. Imagine if soccer went down the IMG path, they'd be ripped apart by the media.

Can see this absurd carry on ending in tears for many clubs, including Fax unfortunately.

Quote ="Faxlore"IMG have announce that SL may go to 14 teams sooner than expected. This whole thing is a fu…king joke https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... -img-chief'" Don't worry the 12 SL clubs will soon release a statement saying they won't be going to 14 clubs anytime soon. RFL won't be able to wrestle the votes off the SL clubs as easily as they have the Championship clubs and there is no way they would vote for a reduction in their funding.

Quote ="Faxlore"IMG have announce that SL may go to 14 teams sooner than expected. This whole thing is a fu…king joke https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... -img-chief'" Don't worry the 12 SL clubs will soon release a statement saying they won't be going to 14 clubs anytime soon. RFL won't be able to wrestle the votes off the SL clubs as easily as they have the Championship clubs and there is no way they would vote for a reduction in their funding.

Yep, like turkeys voting for xmas. Well, I've watched this great sport for longer than I care to remember, but ever since SL it's been a complete mess. Oh how I wish Oxley and Howes were still running the sport, they wouldn't have hauled us through this embarrassment.

Time for a complete breakaway, even though I suppose that's happened already through the back door with the "elite" pretending all this nonsense is "good for the game". I think the Fev statement sums it all up nicely.

I fear the Superleague clubs will split taking the TV money leaving the RFL with no funding and only the community game or what little of that is left to oversee. Just cannot see how the other clubs can survive without a meaningful competition. No wonder they trying to sell the tip in Bradford.

Quote ="faxcar"Could be wrong and can’t be bothered to check but thought they had made a few statements about it in the past but in any case if they are going to say something now or in the very near future would seem to be the time period to do so with more of the details as to where they stand are being published, either way we’ll find out. PS: One previous statement https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... .%E2%80%9D'" Cheers, hadn't seen that. Talk about Turkey's voting for Christmas. That statement, to me, just shows the present board have absolutely no ambition whatsoever.

Quote ="faxcar"Could be wrong and can’t be bothered to check but thought they had made a few statements about it in the past but in any case if they are going to say something now or in the very near future would seem to be the time period to do so with more of the details as to where they stand are being published, either way we’ll find out. PS: One previous statement https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... .%E2%80%9D'" Cheers, hadn't seen that. Talk about Turkey's voting for Christmas. That statement, to me, just shows the present board have absolutely no ambition whatsoever.

Well at that provisional stage they did mention voting the way they did was in their opinion better than voting against it whilst acknowledging others may disagree but respected their opinion which we have been free to express.

I suppose if we were the owners / shareholders / directors the final decision would be ours to make?

On the other hand since I’m not any of the above whether I support the club for where and for what they are instead of for what they aren’t would be the decision I have to make.

Well they have responded in good time and sounds positive to me and now we know the provisional grade starting numbers we have someting to gauge future progress / realisation of ambitions on. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A ... mQmQ285d-A

Well they have responded in good time and sounds positive to me and now we know the provisional grade starting numbers we have someting to gauge future progress / realisation of ambitions on. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A ... mQmQ285d-A

Does sound very positive without giving any detail other than the target score. At this stage absolutely fine with this as long more information on the clubs plans is forthcoming over the next few weeks. In spite of all the IMG tripe most supporters will still measure the determination of the board to move forward on quality of squad we assemble for next year.

It's hard to say too much about that statement as its the reality we are in and if we can only improve our score by about a point in the space of 12 months that leaves us at least 2 points off the worst of the teams that have a realistic shot at SL and just says how far we are off really. Its hard to feel optimistic about any of this from a club perspective as this season just gone was our best and likely last chance of getting in to SL that we will see in a long time. Again it would be nice to see a full break down of the scoring to at least know where we are marked down. For all we know it maybe nearly impossible for us to get to the 13 points that it is looking like is needed to make SL. My guess would be that the system is scrapped after 2 or 3 seasons like all things RL.

Again strike me down for been negative but we are restricted in some areas as to how many points we can score so for us making up over 3 points is going to be ridiculously hard if not impossible.

Still a tough challenge and equates to more like a middle distance run rather than a sprint and with not knowing what others will do 10.5 as it stands moves up just a couple of places but at least the intent is there and they haven’t thrown the towel in and it does say there will further statements to follow soon.

While that's favourite they could (and no doubt would) appropriate the CF meant for Champ and L1 to claw some of it back should they expand. However, the statement still reads that expansion will only be when they reach 12 grade As but they think that might come earlier, although I'd very much doubt it.

Yeah 7 A grades was a surprise to everyone even the most "reliable" journo's got that one wrong and there was some huriedly deleted posts.

That said a lot of the next ones up are basket cases in some of the areas and its hard to see many more making the jump to A grade although I have seen mentioned in a couple of places that Wakey could get there by the time the next gradings are done which seems ridiculous that they have been allowed to just get by year after year and then would be saved like this.

According to Gledhill the gradings for 2025 will now be announced after next years grand final and not in July/August. https://twitter.com/TheGameCaller/statu ... gr%5Etweet

According to Gledhill the gradings for 2025 will now be announced after next years grand final and not in July/August. https://twitter.com/TheGameCaller/statu ... gr%5Etweet

The Bradford breakdown for anyone interested:-

Performance 2.17/5
Fandom 3.95/5
Finances 2.75/4.5
Stadium 0.89/3
Community 2.25/2.5

We beat them on performance with the league averages and the cup win.

I thought we would beat them on Stadium but maybe not and I wonder if its on a technicality surrounding the sponsors seats otherwise we should have the full 1.5 Facilities score. We don't get much for utilisation and nothing for Primacy of Tenure but the Bulls may score highly on utilisation given their manipulated attendances and closure of part of the terracing. We did get the big screen bonus though.


For community we do badly but thats pretty much out of our hands, the catchment area top threshold is set at a random 260k level which surprise, surprise Bradford just get in to make full points along with the foundation where they score 0.75 points. We are 1.75 points behind them on that alone and can do nothing about it which is ridiculous.

So with been 3 points behind them and beating them slightly on performance and stadium We must beapprox 1.5-1.75 points behind them split between finances and fandom.

I'm probably stating the obvious, but it all seems geared towards just having big city clubs in Super League which is what SL set out to do in the 90s with "Framing the Future".

But how does this catchment area scoring sit with Hull and Hull KR? To hell with all this west and east rivalry, they're "technically" chasing the same fans and if anything only one of them should be granted SL status, or dare I say it merge for a bigger and better Hull?

There is page after page after page on this IMG grading rubbish, especially on TRL. We can pontificate all we like but outside the top 14, bulls position funnily enough, we just don't count.

Yeah it just highlights how our board can basically be as ambitious as they like but its nearly impossible for us to get in the top 12. We have very little control over the Stadium and no control over the community scoring so we somehow have to outscore the likes of Bradford on performance(this is hard to be a lot better than any team around us because of how the scoring is made up), Fandom we literally don't stand a chance so we have to somehow score max points on finance to even have a hope.

Some of the teams will have cooked their scores a little bit and they will find it hard to increase their scores from what they have now so we still might see a lot of improvements in some teams where as some may go backwards. I find the whole thing hilarious as it really does not affect us in the slightest, yes we had an outside chance of promotion through promotion and relegation but it was unlikely without us spending a lot more money and the new system makes it almost impossible because of the loaded scoring system. It will all be sacked off in a few years though so lets see how we are doing then and until then lets sit back and enjoy.

Quote ="faxcar"According to Gledhill the gradings for 2025 will now be announced after next years grand final and not in July/August. https://twitter.com/TheGameCaller/statu ... gr%5Etweet'" Gledhill is less reliable than a broken clock, at least that is right now and then

Quote ="faxcar"According to Gledhill the gradings for 2025 will now be announced after next years grand final and not in July/August. https://twitter.com/TheGameCaller/statu ... gr%5Etweet'" Gledhill is less reliable than a broken clock, at least that is right now and then