Licensing hasn't made the gap too wide. It's the lack of sufficient funds to properly support the game below $uperleague.

On the one hand, the game needs to pay enough to stop players drifting out to RU and the NRL, on the other, it needs to support its own pyramid.

And, of course, there aren't enough clubs to fit existing $uperleague criteria. Probably only eight or ten deserve to be there.

Your right Griff and the intention was to try and distribute cash across the sport but they want it for themselves in direct contradiction to reviews such as the Watkins report and input from Brian Barwick a sporting giant.

Let them have all the cash it won't stop some overspending with the same problems.

Rugby league is like an house where everything underground has been neglected for years, what you see above might look okay at a quick glance and if you gave it a fresh coat of paint it might look fine but with crumbling foundations how long can it last.

They still don't get it that it that no matter how much money they keep to themselves it will be the same clubs with the same players playing the same standard of rugby while everyone else slowly but surely dies of starvation if there aren't changes.

Josh Charnley will still be running down the wing but with more money in his pocket and if he did move on someoe else would take his place like they did with Jason, Chris Ashton, Joel Tompkins etc.

They don't like it when they have someone come and take their better players but think nothing of doing the same to us, such is their ignorance of sport in general and their arrogance in Rubgy league specifically.

Super League or getting there is not the point for me it's the chance to progress and I fear for the Championship clubs if it stays the same, if I thought we would be okay then they can stick SL and everything that goes with it.

The other point is how much it costs to stage games these days with various Health and Safety pronouncements by the RFL and the Government. Not to mention that everything is done so much more professionally these days.

All costs money.

As will the running of the game by the Super League clubs, who will pick up the tab for that.

They will want more money for taking control of something motivated by not having enough money in the first place.



My brain hurts

, anyone fancy a game of darts or something.

I agree that it's far from easy, if the top end of SL are intent on pushing something through its now or never, there would be a chance of getting the rank and file SL clubs, the one who are never going to be competitive onside, and then start again. Then the big four can play each other over and over again, or if they really want to chase the money they could apply to join the RU.

Just think how Rugby League could be the unique sport that puts competition above all else. Idealistic I know.

The key for me is, is a competitive Championship game worth watching? So what if at the top level the game slides a bit, and players are lost, the game is greater than the individual players, the honesty, the endeavour allied with the skill that exists in the slower championship.

More money for Saints, Wigan etc, where will it end up, with the players it does in all the sports, look at the millions pouring into football, it's not done the clubs a lot of good they have just passed it on to the players, RL won't be any different if they do get more money. Live within our means, stop trying to compete with Aus or RU who have left us behind I'm afraid and build a good competition thats something no other game can stop us doing if that is our goal.

Freedom of Information Act has enabled the public to see who owes rent down't Shay. 52,000 is owed by Fax as of September 25th.

Random claptrap. They let you out again?

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778 There you have it Lenneghan wants it all for SL, the same 14 teams with one up one down the very thing that failed and led to licencesing in the first place. Where has he been for the last few years, lets not try something new lets go back to something old that failed. He wants to run Super league.

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778 There you have it Lenneghan wants it all for SL, the same 14 teams with one up one down the very thing that failed and led to licencesing in the first place. Where has he been for the last few years, lets not try something new lets go back to something old that failed. He wants to run Super league.

The next Maurice Lindsay take a bow. Wigan top of the tree again and think they own the game!!! Don't recall much noise when they weren't doing so well...??

There was a seperate thread for this but it was deleted.

You start off by revealing this crushing piece of "truth" about the apparent failings of the RL club and when it comes out what it really is you can't even accept the truth yourself.

At worst it's rent that has yet to be paid still in the payment time frame, as you don't have to pay it in advance Mr head up your rectum.

I know mate and the Town jackals smelt blood and went on about it on the courier site but there's nothing to hide here including their ignorance, their wrong again.
The mods will step in if they think it is right to delete the posts but I couldn't let it pass without exposing another pathetic attempt to slag off the club.

I would think that may be from the rent argument about 3 years back. Obviously FC Halifax Town been pretty much a new company wont have the historical debt that the old company had.

It really is of no surprise. Paying about £1500 less than agreed over 36 months wont be so far off what is owed.

I know your getting giddy about this but all involved probably knew about these arrears. Its not like it hasnt been printed in the press.

If you are so concerned about the tax payer this can be cut by 100% if they sell the ground.

All you have to worry about is, if and when the RL club buys the Shay is for FC Town to pay their rent on time to their new masters so sit down and behave or we might charge more.

i have not seen anywhere that fax are to buy or trying to buy the shay.

Bitch,moan and cause trouble is all the Town lot seem to do. Look at your club and the amount it has not payer over the years.Its this attitude why I have no time for the football lot.
Getting back to the thread, good to see Fax stand up and be counted. Lets hope other chairmen and clubs join us. Rugby League is more than SL or a group of clubs. The game has many problems at many levels that need sorting now.

www.loverugbyleague.com/news_135 ... nagan.html One more to vent his feelings without pulling punches.

www.loverugbyleague.com/news_135 ... nagan.html One more to vent his feelings without pulling punches.

Originally these restructures weren't being brought in to help the championship clubs,they were being brought in because wakey,salford and bradford are skint,london are broke and david hughes wants to cut his funding.Hudgell and co have repeatedly said they cannot continue to fund hkr indefinitely to the tune of 500k a year.

All these clubs need to massively reduce there spending.

The problem is,if these clubs reduce there spending then the standards in SL drop even more than they have already.

The 3x8 groups allows them to reduce spending and give them something to play for,for the whole season,why is that a problem?.

I feel like we've all been suckered in to believe this is about the championship clubs, its not, its about protecting the failed/failing sl clubs.

There just happens to be potential benefits for championship clubs.

I suspect if it went to a vote and leeds and wakey and the championship clubs sided with the rfl,then the rfl would win.

Ohhhh, that's a shame Nat, he invited us to sue him. I wonder if he'll provide us with his name & address & contact details so we know who to send the letters to ?

It seems that one of Lenegan's allies may have changed his mind: www.loverugbyleague.com/news_135 ... cture.html That means that 2 of the big boys , Leeds and St. Helens, are now backing the RFL.

It seems that one of Lenegan's allies may have changed his mind: www.loverugbyleague.com/news_135 ... cture.html That means that 2 of the big boys , Leeds and St. Helens, are now backing the RFL.