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| Not had chance to watch it back yet, but did Worrincy make a tackle on their number 5 when he was in the air?
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Question for those who watched this on Sky:-
Were we offside so much in that second half especially on our own line (3 or 4 times)?
Did the player who hit the ground before their 3rd and possibly 4th try not have both elbows down?
Did Batley never impede in the last 20 minutes as we did not get one penalty in that period?
Was it our discipline or that toilet called Laughton that deprived us of the ball the last 30 minutes???
Did Wrenchy really hit that guy high when the linesman came on?'"
Having just watched replay:
1. Well this is it, doesnt every team have at least 1 or 2 off the line every time? Certainly weren't obviously offside. And to do us so much was harsh to say the least
2. 3rd try was ok 4th was a load of toss. The commentators didn't make much of a big deal about it saying the man 'wasn't controlled' but at the end of the day a Batley player hit the deck with a Halifax player on him, if that was slowed down in Super League it wouldn't have been given.
3. Last 24 mins actually and no penatlys to us. Batley were whiter than white and never moved of the mark, had a player offside, held on to long or anything EVER....i'll let you decide if im being sarky
4. Six of one half a dozen of the other, again, technically we should have been penalised for this and that. However where were our relieving penaltiess in the last 25mins. Halifax did very well in theory at stages in defence.
5. He put his hand in Batley players face. He did do it, but again, Batley never did it? I think not. And btw, his tackle that actually finally got us a sin-binned player was the softest of the lot. He was unlucky it was him
Worrincy was a bit of a tart for playing on, not sure why he thought he wasn't held. Also when their player had nasty fall he did nothing...which perhaps lead to the incident because he didn't even jump oddly enough..also regarding that incident, that Batley player fell VERY awkwardly and it look very bad and something could easily gone wrong with his neck so can whichever tosspot Halifax fans who keeping chanting 10,9,8.. you're out etc, bloody stop it!
Penky being ran out of play was also good defence to be fair.
Overall thought we did ok basically against a good Batley team at their place. 1 out of 6 points from these 2 games last year remember...
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| ref last night was a but the most important thing is weve returned with 3 more points than last year. still a lok of work to be done and a lot of other refs to put up with but well get there. we dont want to peak too soon
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| Quote ="littlerich"Disgraceful refereeing. We get penalised (rightly) for Worrincy playing on after being tackled. Batley do the same and play is allowed to go on and a try is scored. Massive penalty count against Fax.
Laughton - you're a [i=#0000FFmale chicken[/i.
Granted - Fax have gone off the boil but they're playing against the ref here.
[i=#0000FFI understand where you're coming from, but keep it clean, please. TS[/i'"
Your post as to be a joke?
I was watching this match on sky with the young un. Could not give a toss who won, having no allegiance. Just wanted to watch some rugby and tries.
But my word, forget the penalty count, that was a one side refereeing performance, IN YOUR FAVOUR. Every 50/50 decision seemed to go to you. Worrincey not getting sent off for that tackle in the air was a joke. We should eliminate that sort of play from our game.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Your post as to be a joke?
I was watching this match on sky with the young un. Could not give a toss who won, having no allegiance. Just wanted to watch some rugby and tries.
But my word, forget the penalty count, that was a one side refereeing performance, IN YOUR FAVOUR. Every 50/50 decision seemed to go to you. Worrincey not getting sent off for that tackle in the air was a joke. We should eliminate that sort of play from our game.'"
Ah you didn't watch the second half then?
Wouldn't mind knowing how many sets they had on our line? And a big hand to the defence throughout that period.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Your post as to be a joke?
I was watching this match on sky with the young un. Could not give a toss who won, having no allegiance. Just wanted to watch some rugby and tries.
But my word, forget the penalty count, that was a one side refereeing performance, IN YOUR FAVOUR. Every 50/50 decision seemed to go to you. Worrincey not getting sent off for that tackle in the air was a joke. We should eliminate that sort of play from our game.'"
Give your head a shake. Sent off? For what? Pure accident, these things happen.
Not sure what some people are expecting, like people have said we have won 2 games already this season that we lost last season. Our attack looked to be clicking in to gear in the first half and our defence held pretty strong at times in the second half when Batley were on a roll. Laughton had his usual incompetent performance for both teams but that is to be expected. He shows week after week why the RFL havnt shown any confidence in him and why he will never make it to SL. I thought Maloney, Branighan, Black and Penky all had really good games. Overall very good result and if we can manage to pick up at least a bonus point next Thursday we are laughing.
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| Quote ="Gotcha". Worrincey not getting sent off for that tackle in the air was a joke. We should eliminate that sort of play from our game.'"
what game did u watch ???,, worrincey DID NOT TACKLE OR DID NOT TRY TO, the guy jumped over the top of him, in no way was it his fault,all he did was stood his ground
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| Some people don't understand the game of Rugby League. Gotcha - you're one of them.
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| some good comments made on here.
Does anybody know what the exact penalty count was last night? Maybe somebody could tell me different, but I reckon overall Halifax had the Lions share.
In my opinion we lost the game last night due to the two basic errors when twice we failed to find touch in the first half from penalties, and Halifax subsequently scored on both occasions from the "Gifted"next set.
Referee was very poor for both sides, and did nothing to promote the game of Rugby League last night.
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| Quote ="Gallant_Youth"some good comments made on here.
Does anybody know what the exact penalty count was last night? Maybe somebody could tell me different, but I reckon overall Halifax had the Lions share.
In my opinion we lost the game last night due to the two basic errors when twice we failed to find touch in the first half from penalties, and Halifax subsequently scored on both occasions from the "Gifted"next set.
Referee was very poor for both sides, and did nothing to promote the game of Rugby League last night.'"
Try again!
18-9 in favour of yourselves!
We took a second half pounding from Rocket Ronnie...not saying we didn't deserve most of them!
I was listening to some guys in the post match presentation bar, blaming Ronnie for your loss.
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| a few rants from last nights game!
1) the ref - was bad for both sides, allthough i have said many times he canonly give a penalty when "he" sees an infrigment of the laws of the game, if your side be it, Fax, Batley or whoever breach the laws then a penaalty it will be, the issue of Mr Laughton is what he does not see! and his consistancy, he gave thing one way then not the other, penalised one team for an offence then not the other, conistancy last night was poor!
2) That bloody slope, its about time somebody leant Batley a JCB, take the soil from the top and move it to the bottom, thus leveling the pitch, in my opinion the slope runins a good game, yes we all know batley win the toss playup hill first half, them try and steam rollar the second, as always we know many a team will be had by the pitch and these tatics this year, come on batley and the RFL its 2010, sort that pitch out NOW (o and FEV too its a joke!)
3) Good away support last night from Fax 1800 at batley on a cold thursday
4) Urban Carrot sat in the Batley Dugout! i am guessing on placment from Hudds uni! how strange must that have been!
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| Our discipline was poor last night, I don't think anyone can disagree with that. However Rob Worrincy's incident was in no way shape of form a sending off offence. He was running at full pelt, and didn't even attempt to make the tackle, from what I saw he tried to duck and just caught the full back! And you talk about 50/50 calls, well what about the "tackle" that was put in on Worrincy? Maybe it was a complete tackle who knows. But you can't call us up for that and let Batley off when they did it on [utwo[/u occassions, and a try came from one of them.
Anyway on the brighter side Aizue, Black and Maloney had top games last night. Black looked more involved as did Aizue (when he was on) and Maloney crashed over for those two try's. Good to see Penky looking more relaxed last night, I know one or two of his decisions didn't come off, but he looks much better.
Any idea why White wasn't called up? Thought he had a good game against Ovenden.
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| Maybe Ronnie could be the first ref to switch codes, his constant whistleblowing suited to the game of union rather than league!
27 penalties! A penalty less than every 3 minutes
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| Cummings was at fault imo also for Campbell's 1st try. He lost posession over the line & only regathered it because it bounced off Goddards head. He only got it again as he "wedged" it with his forearm, in no way would this usually be possible with a falling ball!
As soon as it did, then that should have been called a knock on.
You can hear Laughton during the game telling our team he will hammer us for offsides as we were being lazy! Batley were hardly offside were they???????????/ RUBBISH!
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| It was a violent circle. We (as all teams do) tried to slow down their march down the hill and we were penalised (Beswick with two stupid, needless ones for example) we took less time over tackles and were still penalised (Wrench held Lindsay in the tackle for less than 2 seconds with Lindsay doing nothing to try and get up) That's why Batley looked ultra quick,. because we weren't winning the ruck and able to slow their play down, just as they were doing to us.
We did give away some stupid penalties, Wrench driving his elbow into a face right in front of the touch judge, Worrincy getting up with 2 men on him, Beswick a couple of times too. Laughton simply killed the game. Batley had no right to get that close to us but we still took our foot off the gas and thought the game was won.
Laughton didn't actually award Branighan's 2nd try, he said "Yeah, i'm happy" and pointed before Gareth Moore ran over screaming to look at the touch judge. Made to look foolish there PC Laughton.
I'm just sick and tired of having spectacles of RL ruined by that meglomaniac. He NEVER lets the game flow, the slightest infringement and he blows up, no matter how trivial. If Senior thinks Silverwood is arrogant and wants attention all time, someone please tell him about Laughton.
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| You tell em
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| To be honest about last night I thought Laughton absolutely crucified Batley in the first half, and in the 2nd he crucified Halifax. Sadly when we got our glut of penalties the game was over.
The main decisions I question for you ref's on the this forum are.
1. Greenwoods' hand touched the ball in the act of making the tackle on the 5 down Fax's left hand side in the fist half resulting in another 6, but he never made an attempt to stop the pass he never took his eyes from the centre he was tackling yet it was given as a scrum to you for a knock on.
2. Worrincy went straight through Campbell whilst in mid air with no attempt at challenging for the ball, I'm not saying it is right but at one time that was a straight red card, seems we have given up with that one.
3. Campbell's try looked like a knock on to me too. It was a poor decision how they get video ref decisions wrong is beyond me, but yet we see it in almost every game no excuse for that at all IMO.
4. Campbell had the ball stripped in the first half by Black on the first tackle after loads of Fax pressure which you scored off.
5. Worst of all it took him almost an hour before binning someone for interference at the PTB, Lythes (Batley hooker) should gone in the first half, but both sides were at it from the kick off, if he'd binned someone in the first half it would have stopped it earlier and we might have seen the game we all wanted with less than 10 penalties in the whole game, but instead we got a whistle solo.
I'm not whining about the result, IMO Fax deserved the win, no question about that, you defended your line better than Batley and had more idea in attack, and you could find touch from penalties . I just wished we'd had a ref that would have stamped on the interference and holding down, that would have allowed a more free flowing and open game to see what both teams were capable of. Instead neither team could get in to any sort of rhythm because of Laughton's one man whistle show.
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| Quote ="Pride & Heritage"To be honest about last night I thought Laughton absolutely crucified Batley in the first half, and in the 2nd he crucified Halifax. Sadly when we got our glut of penalties the game was over.
The main decisions I question for you ref's on the this forum are.
1. Greenwoods' hand touched the ball in the act of making the tackle on the 5 down Fax's left hand side in the fist half resulting in another 6, but he never made an attempt to stop the pass he never took his eyes from the centre he was tackling yet it was given as a scrum to you for a knock on.
2. Worrincy went straight through Campbell whilst in mid air with no attempt at challenging for the ball, I'm not saying it is right but at one time that was a straight red card, seems we have given up with that one.
3. Campbell's try looked like a knock on to me too. It was a poor decision how they get video ref decisions wrong is beyond me, but yet we see it in almost every game no excuse for that at all IMO.
4. Campbell had the ball stripped in the first half by Black on the first tackle after loads of Fax pressure which you scored off.
5. Worst of all it took him almost an hour before binning someone for interference at the PTB, Lythes (Batley hooker) should gone in the first half, but both sides were at it from the kick off, if he'd binned someone in the first half it would have stopped it earlier and we might have seen the game we all wanted with less than 10 penalties in the whole game, but instead we got a whistle solo.
I'm not whining about the result, IMO Fax deserved the win, no question about that, you defended your line better than Batley and had more idea in attack, and you could find touch from penalties
. I just wished we'd had a ref that would have stamped on the interference and holding down, that would have allowed a more free flowing and open game to see what both teams were capable of. Instead neither team could get in to any sort of rhythm because of Laughton's one man whistle show.'"
You are deluded! Ref was clearly being paid something by the batley lot. Im surprised the RFL are blind to this.
You could see the anguish on Laughtons face as he had to call full time before somehow finding a way to gift batley the 3 points
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| How do you figure that? The game had already gone by the time he decided to even things up on the bad decision front. Watch it again without you blue and white glasses on. He killed us in the first half with poor decisions, and he killed you in 2nd. If we'd paid him off do you not think we'd have paid him in the first half? We didn't deserve a win, the best team won, but it would have been nice to see a free flowing game.
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| Quote ="Pride & Heritage"How do you figure that? The game had already gone by the time he decided to even things up on the bad decision front. Watch it again without you blue and white glasses on. He killed us in the first half with poor decisions, and he killed you in 2nd. If we'd paid him off do you not think we'd have paid him in the first half? We didn't deserve a win, the best team won, but it would have been nice to see a free flowing game.'"
we saw a free flowing game in the 1st half. in the second half it was all dirt tactics by the batley players, somehow being allowed by the incompetent ref, which allowed you to balance the score out a bit, but sadly for ronnie was not enough
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| Quote ="Pride & Heritage"To be honest about last night I thought Laughton absolutely crucified Batley in the first half, and in the 2nd he crucified Halifax. Sadly when we got our glut of penalties the game was over.
The main decisions I question for you ref's on the this forum are.
1. Greenwoods' hand touched the ball in the act of making the tackle on the 5 down Fax's left hand side in the fist half resulting in another 6, but he never made an attempt to stop the pass he never took his eyes from the centre he was tackling yet it was given as a scrum to you for a knock on.
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Exactly the same thing happend when Paterson tackled the centre in the 1st half, at last something Ronnie was consistent about!!!
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| Went to the game, watched the replay and read all the comments. If anyone thinks that Worrincy should have been sent off etc then they really have no idea. The lad stood his ground and the Batley player went straight over the top of him. Im just pleased he wasnt seriously hurt but it was a pure accident.
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| Quote ="faxlad66"Went to the game, watched the replay and read all the comments. If anyone thinks that Worrincy should have been sent off etc then they really have no idea. The lad stood his ground and the Batley player went straight over the top of him. Im just pleased he wasnt seriously hurt but it was a pure accident.'"
There's a thread been started on the RLFans Main section about Rob being carded for his 'late tackle'. Fax player or not, I agree with you. The Batley player landed badly and thank god he didn't get hurt but it wasn't a malicious tackle.
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| Quote ="Jonnie.."4) Urban Carrot sat in the Batley Dugout! i am guessing on placment from Hudds uni! how strange must that have been!'"
No not on placement mate did that with our near SL neighbours.
Yes it was very strange. Also enlightening seeing it from the other side too.
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| Decent game last night and pretty exciting in parts really, slightly spoiled by a pedantic, often incompetent and spotlight-hogging official who was bad for both teams.
Obviously Halifax are going to be up there again this season. With the playing talent you have at your disposal, Calland would need to be the worlds worst coach not to achieve something with the squad you have.
FWIW, we're not really on the same planet as Fax in terms of the disparity between the playing budgets of our two clubs, so I'm more than happy to come away with a bonus point from last night.
Well done and thanks for bringing a good following, it will certainly have boosted our coffers nicely.
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