What about the one on the 24th February ? That will be out to you on or by the 25th of March.

best post I've seen in a few months on either forum

I placed that before I knew the arrears had been paid, and again inspired by a post Nat had made. It asks how much rent has been paid by BOTH clubs since 2011. But obviously I'm only interested in finding a stick to beat Fax with. Of course, if you're fed up with me I can always cancel the request, or not post the results when the answer is published.

So how much have both clubs paid since 2011 Mr Dangermouse?

You have to wait 2 weeks Jon.Please see thread about new town centre
franchise i'd like a response if poss. ta.

I'm sorry if the term 'your' offends you when using it to link you and the rugby club. I'm used to classing FCHT as 'my' club because I feel as a fan it belongs to me. I'll avoid using 'your' in the future. However, please don't put words in my mouth regarding my stance.

I've been nothing but complementary in my stance towards the rugby club in general - supporting shared use of the pitch, disagreeing with trolling by both sides etc. However I do have an issue over how the clubs directors have run up a debt, for whatever reason, when one of them was trying to purchase the ground.

I didn't consider the changing circumstances as relevant as the club didn't contact the council in the prescribed time to tell them circumstances had changed, they just didn't pay.

Rather than addressing my points that the bidder for the stadium, whose only selling point was 'trust me', has shown that on big occasions he's not proved to detractors he could be trusted (late payment of rent, deadline promise broken, no link to payday companies, putting in a bid that Steele said he wasn't aware of) you just point and shout 'Fax hater' in an effort to discredit what I'm saying.

If that's how you want to see me then fine, that's up to you. We'll agree to differ.

I have no time for Football/Soccer and think its the most overhyped rubbish out. Also the arrogance of a number of Football fans, especially the lot that follow Halifax Town means I have no time for them or the club or sport. I used to not care ,but the attacks not just on Tony Abbott but more the Rugby Club and the heartbeat of Sport from a number of football fans, has changed things,so that I hope they always struggle. Personally I dont see the need why Football fans are so obsessed with the RUgby club and feel the need to find out so much information. I couldnt care less if Halifax Town owed money and to whom. I couldnt care less who is involved in running them. As said I dont have any time for Halifax Town the fans or the Sport. But I also dont feel the need to go around spreading rumours or going on public forums like the Courier or on here creating problems and making up things.

The RUgby club could have done things better since being at The Shay. But the pathetic actions from the Football club also has not helped. I remeber doors being locked and keys conveniently going missing and the Football club blaming things on the RUgby club instead of looking closer to home. No doubt the Rugby club has helped create a situation where neither club trusts the other and any chance of working much together is remote. Personally I would rather things stay the way things are and Fax concentrate on themselves and not try sharing things which no doubt would end up in arguments as usual-

part quote. "We'll agree to differ".

We certainly will.

I don't have to address your points and no one else does because all of it never got to a point where it needed to be by anyone outside Reactiv and CMBC or HRLFC and CMBC.

The crux of the matter from a Town point of view rests with the fact that Reactiv and TA were associated with the rugby club and they could not bide to think about a situation where they owned the Shay and thus had some control over them, they would rather the Shay close first. FACT.

As regards shouting "Fax Hater" look at your own club and forum they are shouting it loud enough.

Here's some typical examples of what is being said using the information you have obtained.

Quote "Liars liars liars.

The rugby club just can't stop themselves lying, lying to their own fans and the Calderdale public".

Quote "Set of lying cheating barstewards then! I'm shocked".

Quote "outstanding work danger mouse, absolutely leaves them standing stark bollock naked in front of their stack of lies, lies and more lies".

No doubt they will be proud of the fact they have said it and having it quoted on here.

Lies!!!!

How can the directors of HRLFC have lied about anything in the FOI when they have never answered any of the questions, they have done the opposite and chosen not to say anything in public concerning these matters.

All the above comments and many more from Town fans are based on their hatred of anything Fax but at least they have the guts to say it as it is.

"Truly outstanding work", sorry we'll have to agree to differ again.

Any discredit you bring it on yourselves.

Bored now, to be fair

Me too.

After 36 pages I think this topic has been flogged to death. Tedious-move on and give us all a break.

I couldn't agree more.

What I find really depressing is that a lot of the posts on this board recently could have been copy and pasted from the football club's: lack of communication from BOD, failure to attract the next generation of fans, lack of visibility in town, no fixture lists for fans to hand out, falling spectator numbers in what is each club's biggest season in years.

If both clubs could work together, both at a fan level right through to a BOD level, imagine what cross-selling each could do. We could have fans handing out double sides fixture lists, we could have kit made by the same local suppliers, if we ever get a shop we could share staff costs, we could even have joint season ticket offers or reduced price entry for season ticket holders at the other club.

Yes, there are some anti-rugby posts on our board, but the thread Faxcar has highlighted has gone off into a discussion about how you used to see the same people at both clubs each week. I doubt it's unconnected that attendances at both clubs have dropped as ill-feeling between the clubs has grown.

Despite what some think I came on this board as I was aware many of you thought the FOIs came from an anti-Fax agenda. I came to try to dispel that myth and give you the opportunity to ask me questions. I still say my reason for doing it was my anti-private ownership stance, no matter who the buyer was or is connected to. I only made the recent post re the arrears clarification as I'd discussed it with Nat, and indeed GFB had posted a link to my posting on the other forum before I posted it on here, so I'm not solely responsible for resurrecting the topic.

I do believe that, especially in these tough times, neither club can achieve their full potential without a strong pan-sport base in the town, and that the bickering is damaging both clubs.

I've still got one FOI outstanding - rent paid by both clubs. I will post the results for anyone who cares to read them. Other than that I won't post unless asked a direct question as it's not my intention to get into arguments or be seen as a troll.

Regards, and good luck for the rest of the season,

DM

To be fair, he's a decent lad is Dangermouse, he doesnt spout the nonsense that some of the other idiots on the town forum do.

In some respects, we need to thank him for exposing what is going on. We can only form opinions based on the information we have and Dangermouse is providing a whole lot more of that than the club or the secret society trust.

Totally agree he's been a godsend to this board and helped rebuild
relationship's that we shouldn't be breaking.

Response re rent charged: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-486901

Response re rent charged: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ing-486901

Well, having read through that, the thing that immediately springs to mind is does the shop at the Shay give value for money? It appears to cost the club nearly £1,000 per month so I think not considerring that it is normally only open for around 2 half days each week. It may be worth giving it up now that we have our town centre outlet (or perhaps that is what the club have in mind).

The thing that strikes me is the cost per game is much higher for RL - who pays stewards etc?

How many games do the u20 play at the shay a season?

10

They don't play every home fixture at the Shay.

<10 then!! I just looked at the games played so far, and the next one, and they were all at the Shay!

FC Halifax Town do have a small shop in the portacabin, not a full blown shop as such but still extra floorspace which is part of the equation when you pay rent.

Surely the fairest, most transparent way to calculate the rent would be by breaking it down to a charge for shop/office space and an equal, per match charge for stadium use for each club??

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/op ... ok.twitter Does anyone know if anything has changed in the Councils thinking since October when this was published. It's a genuine question concerning if the sale of the Shay is still on the agenda anytime soon. Please do not reopen the Reactiv TA debate that has been flogged to death.

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/op ... ok.twitter Does anyone know if anything has changed in the Councils thinking since October when this was published. It's a genuine question concerning if the sale of the Shay is still on the agenda anytime soon. Please do not reopen the Reactiv TA debate that has been flogged to death.