Quote ="Listenup94"Just to give people a little insight into what goes on in getting a player ready for the season , featuring our own Greg worthington at Toronto https://youtu.be/bJe0KBbufHA So basically they’ve said cut down on lager , crisps , spam sarnies etc . Why do you think Bradford aren’t competing this year , half the team wouldn’t even fit them callipers on their fat . The championship gets harder and harder every year therefore every year you have to raise your game .'" From personal experience it's simple. There's no excuse, there's more today on sporting nutrition, diet, training etc than ever before, the better the training regime and the better you buy into it and apply it the better the results will be. The key is it starts with "you" your mindset, as a player if you can't get your self in shape without being told then there is something wrong mentally that will show itself physically and performance wise as individuals and as a team.

Quote ="Listenup94"Just to give people a little insight into what goes on in getting a player ready for the season , featuring our own Greg worthington at Toronto https://youtu.be/bJe0KBbufHA So basically they’ve said cut down on lager , crisps , spam sarnies etc . Why do you think Bradford aren’t competing this year , half the team wouldn’t even fit them callipers on their fat . The championship gets harder and harder every year therefore every year you have to raise your game .'" From personal experience it's simple. There's no excuse, there's more today on sporting nutrition, diet, training etc than ever before, the better the training regime and the better you buy into it and apply it the better the results will be. The key is it starts with "you" your mindset, as a player if you can't get your self in shape without being told then there is something wrong mentally that will show itself physically and performance wise as individuals and as a team.

I'm not privy to what goes on behind the scenes at the club but as for EM i would have had him above Tangata until Adam's recent upturn in form. I think he's also in front of Calcott and certainly before any dr/loan player who may be brought in. This is just my opinion but it's got to be said whoever has been in the squad of late has done Fax proud. For that SG must take the plaudits and whoever represents our club let's hope we continue our way up the league. Up The Fax!

Knowles playing for hudds reserves.

So when we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes, when a player is left out out by the coach who sees first hand what we can't
(which from any squad several will be) "must" it be down to a personal difference?

Does he have a personal difference with every player who is not picked and goes out on loan or is just Elliot?

Are Fax the only club to leave players out and send them on loan or DR?

Do all these other coaches have personal differences with these players or is it just SG with his players?

The entire line of reasoning has no reasoning behind it, it's just that you can only field 17 at any one time and considering how we are playing SG hasn't done a bad job going with those who he's picked.

Perhaps 'must' was the wrong word to use. As for dr what other clubs chose to do regarding that is up to them. I don't want our club using it under any circumstances, ever. Up The Fax!

No perhaps about it, it was pure unfounded speculation clearly stating in public that SG had a personal problem with Elliot and as a result was leaving him out of the team.

That is getting personal about one or both of them, completely out of order and perhaps a public apology is in order.

DR, which wasn't what was being discussed but as of 2022 that's what's on offer, it's part of what we pay for and if we don't like it then don't buy the goods.

Crikey, calm down! It's my opinion, get a grip!

Well when your opinion involves other people personally keep it to your self then because when it's out in public it's not just your opinion any more is it.
SG every week has to cope with a multitude of challenges all of which are just part and part of the game many of which he won't agree with.
Regardless of personal feelings he has a responsibly to get the best 17 players on the park for every game from everyone who's available.
On team selection he has shown that the vast majority of the times they have been our own players and is fully aware of the benefits of doing so, but when the need arises he uses other arrangements such as loans and DR and in the modern game he would be failing in his duties for all those who he represents including the club, the players, the supporters etc and he say's "It is what it is" and gets on with with the job and doesn't continually moan about it from the comfort of an armchair using a keyboard.

It's a forum, it's an opinion and I won't keep it to myself. If you don't like or agree with it scroll on down.

I’m not getting involved in this one , already serving my 2nd ban from total rl fans forum , lol!

Considering what some of the posters on that forum come out with it would take the patience of a saint not to get banned on there. I completely agree with you and the other posters on there defending the fax players against the bans handed out to them. I don't post on there because i too would end up banned and as for the debate on here for what it is worth have a good ding dong and then try to move on.

The thing i took offence to is that leef p***k calling our players dirty and calling all the fax fans deluded tin foiled hat wearing weirdos , you defend it with logic then the topic gets locked , obviously I call out locking the topic and then get suspended by some jobsworth because I won’t bow down to some weird hierarchy they’ve managed to manufacture. The John drake guy seems pretty reasonable but that ckn cock nose character, well that patronising message he sent me was just over the top.

It's a public forum which doesn't give someone the license to make things up and post lies about the coach and playing staff and when they do I'll say so.
And if you don't like it or agree then follow your own advice and you scroll on down.

At least there wasn't an alleged Fax fan slagging of Fax who when faced with the logic and truth of the matter could give answer in the same manner.

You should go on total rl fans forum then , you’ld have a field day , you can have one of my user names if you want , I have several so when I get banned I can just crack on anyway . Total rl bans you , I create new manual IP address with other email and hey presto I’m back , I think even my mrs’ is on there without knowing, lol !

No thanks.
I've seen and heard them, hiding behind "it's a forum" and I can say and do what I like" without even a thought given on how to act responsibly and at least having some resemblance to actual facts.

It kinda reminds of when you walk into a local pub and everyone turns around and stares at you like you’re not welcome we’ve been here for years , yeh whatever gimp it’s called a public house for a reason. Anyway like you say probably not the place for you .

Who's lied or made things up? Methinks somebody's lost the plot!

You have when you said this.
Part Quote " It must be a personal thing between him and SG."
Is that true? No, fact.
Was it made up by you. Yes, fact.
Why? Because you said this regarding the same topic.
Part quote: "I'm not privy to what goes on behind the scenes at the club."

So if it's untrue and never happened what does that make it?

Me thinks somebody's lost his memory and eyesight.

Very well said.

I wish the players could of shown in that first half some of the passion the fans have on here what a terrible half of rugby we look like we are still on the bus. All credit to london they fully deserve there halftime lead can we comeback we will need a massive turn around in performance in the second half to do that.

Well more fool me for thinking even with 8 players missing that the side we put out today was still good enough to win. Full credit to london who i thought out enthused us today i just hope this is a one off and we can get back to winning ways at the bash next week when we should have some bodies back not that is a excuse for todays performance. And well done to the few fans that made the trip today it will be a long journey home.

Only good thing is Batley and York lost so we stay 3rd

Obviously disappointed with the result, I was still hoping our attack my just get us the points despite the much weakened line up but from following it on our twitter feed which said London were much the better side in both attack and defence and deserved it so fair play to them and as Faxlore said it could have been worse with the other results, I expected Fev to beat York but not Batley to lose against Widnes so as we were basically.

We’ll all good things must come to an end , let’s hope it’s just a bump in the road and not the start of some bad form .
The last 3 games of last season we lost 3 on the bounce, Whitehaven away , fev away , Batley at home . Next 4 games will be testing and fax will have to get on point ,the championship is very tough, you don’t turn up you lose it’s that simple . Anyway just got to crack on and show up against Bradford.