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| RFL will step in otherwise all they'll just be left with is a giant hole in the ground. It seems the main factor is that their bank has pulled a large part of their overdraft, but it begs the question why they'd do that all of a sudden? Poor credit rating I would guess which would point to this problem having been steadily creeping up for some time.
Anyway, it's all Iestyn's fault apparently lol.
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| You can guarantee something will come up. The bulls wont be allowed to go pop, and they will remain in SL.
They should have their SL license revoked.
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| Quote ="Halifax1987"You can guarantee something will come up. The bulls wont be allowed to go pop, and they will remain in SL.
They should have their SL license revoked.'"
i agree with you 100%
when the finance prejections of all the clubs applying for SL were reportedly checked by 'experts' earlier in the year, and Halifax' prejections were described by many as fantasy, what must they have thought to the bulls figures?!
we deserve a full enquiry about this process!
without a doubt .
the fans of Rugby League deserve an enquiry as to how such a mess has been ignored.
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| When I bought my Fax season ticket this season for £140 some of my work mates who are Bulls fans gave me a hard time saying that the ticket was too much just to watch a Championship team as they were all getting deals on their tickets being so cheap.
Well if you dont put your own money into you club this happens. I told them that Fax dont have big backers to subsidise our season tickets and i was glad to put my hand in my pocket for my club. Well, it looks like the Bulls didnt have a backer either and now their stuffed. I dont want to see clubs go to the wall but SL has proven that to get in all you had to do was lie and now its falling apart.
Bring on the Championship, all our clubs get together go our own way from Red Hall, get our own TV and media coverage and do it all above board with people in charge who love our sport and want to see it thrive and who are not out for free dinners and to promote their own personal exposure.
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| Very good opening post on the Warrington forum:
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=#0040FFQuote ="Colin_Fishwick"Its only a few years ago that the Bulls were riding the wave of success, Trophies and Finals galore, Large Crowds, Fantastic Highly paid players, Season Ticket Holders in abundance and a fantastic youth system (still in evidence today).
So what happened, The fantastic players retired or moved on for more money and were never replaced sufficiently. Performances and success quickly evaporated and so did the fans not to mention sponsors. There is still a core of fans, as at most clubs, who will attend and support come what may but it must be said that most people will only support an attractive proposition who entertain and more importantly win. Its human nature.
Will Warrington suffer the same consequences? Im sure the current powers that be will probably argue not, just like the powers that be at Bradford during their glory days probably did. Warrington are currently on the crest of a wave but what would happen if form is lost when the ageing squad breaks up, what happens when Tony Smith leaves and we lose the ability to win and perform. What happens if Moran decides to withdraw his investment and support.
My worry is that everything is geared towards attracting 'new' season ticket holders, the value offered to people willing to commit to a ST is fantastic to be fair. But what about the ordinary longstanding fan who cant commit to a ST? Well I can tell you that If you dont commit to a ST then watching Warrington becomes very expensive.
When Warrington suffer a dip in form, which they will at some point ala Bradford, all these 'new' ST holders, glory hunters if you like, will slowly start drifting away. Maybe then the club will realise that punishing the ordinary fan was a very foolish approach.
There is a saying that you should respect everyone on your way up as your sure to encounter them on your way back down. Warrington Wolves should sit up and take notice before its too late.
The truth of the matter though, is that the current custodians of Warrington Wolves probably wont be around when the proverbial hits the fan and it will be left to someone else to clear up their mess.'"
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| Magic Weekend to move to Odsal, the Top House to put on Triangle sandwiches and a Compoota fayre at Dickie Dunns. Its win win, and WIN, especially now the RFL are in charge, its great!
Get the Tina Turner cd out, blow up the bouncy castle and look for some wealthy sap who wants to lose a few million and Frans your Auntie. Lunatics, Asylum, now whats the link?
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| Absolute shambles isn't it, everything in Super League at the moment just seems to be built on shaky and corrupt foundations. This idea of breaking off into a new system/league becomes more enticing after every RFL disaster...
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| Another example of the licensing system not working?
I'm shocked, really...
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| lies:3rd person singular present, plural of lie Verb: 1.(of a person or animal) Be in or assume a horizontal or resting position.
2.Tell a lie or lies.
Noun: 1.The way, direction, or position in which something lies.
2[size=150=#FF0000.An intentionally false statement.[/size
they always catch up with you, and the RFL will find this out very soon im sure!
Why did you buy Odsal again?
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| How did the Sports governance awards go?
Just who is checking the books and dishing out grades.
Fiddling while Rome burns springs to mind.
And just who is going to invest in The Bulls knowing that debts will continue mount up if by chance they avert this disaster, its prolonging Administration, and a completely unsustainable situation. Keep your money in your pockets and take the fall, its a complete mess.
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| This has been coming, a mate of mine had a party at Odsal and even in the middle of Winter they didn't put the heating on so really have been struggling for money for a while.
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| I'm a bloke in my thirties and followed fax home and away since my dad took me to Thrum hall in 1980. He was a life long fax fan who moved to Bradford before I was born. I have lived in Bradford all my life and growing up on a street full of Northern and later cattle fans, I got plenty of stick. school was always a lovely place on a Monday if we got beat by them and the pothunters came out of the woodwork. I lived about two miles from odsal for a long time and I can honestly say I have waited for this day for a long time!
The honest answer is though that I am so sick and tired of all the under handed dirty dealings taking place in our sport that I have lost all belief and trust in it. I actually want rugby league to thrive, I don't even wish any club, even the cattle to go under but things are wrong in many ways.
The people running this game are killing it and they need to be stopped. I sit here knowing Bradford will be saved, I actually hope they are for the few loyal fans they have, but quite simply they should have this ridiculous franchise reviewed and/or play at a level they can afford to play at. It won't happen because the cowboys who rode into our game have a vested interest in keeping the egg off of their faces.
It stinks, has stunk for a long time and at least they own the deeds to an old dump that one day they'll crawl back to cos that stinks too!
I was always told you reap what you sew. SL clubs need to wake up and let the real RL people run our game.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Lets get some adverts in The Telegraph & Argus.
"Halifax RLFC - playing proper rugby at a stadium near you".
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Love it!
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| Should we offer to lend them our Buckets
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Bet they survive.
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Bet they survive.
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Mr Creosote will make sure they do
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| The bank reduced the facility because the ground was no longer available as security: how ironic is that?
Good work Tank!
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| Of course they will survive! This is why it is ridiculous anybody giving them any donations! They won't reach the amount needed in the, and will have to go into administration. What will they then do with the
Money raised? Give it back!? They will get bailed out by the rfl, or somebody under the influence of the corrupt crooks.
We have all been saying it a while, but our game is in a right mess. They can hide behind 'improved crowds' and 'new stadia' all they like, if a club like Bradford with all the success they have had in the last 10 years can end Up like this then ask yourself what state the other clubs are in!
Until heads roll at the top we stand no chance.
They lie, twist stories, and change the goalposts nearly weekly!
If they come out and save Bradford, resulting in no punishment for the bulls (ie drooping a league or loosing their licence) which I am fairly confident will be the way this pans out, I am done with the game.
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| Close down good Friday, re-birth and ascension of rlfc Bradford easter Sunday perhaps? It's an odd pr move. But original I'll give them that
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| Quote ="Trustafox"Close down good Friday, re-birth and ascension of rlfc Bradford easter Sunday perhaps? It's an odd pr move. But original I'll give them that'"
Another Miracle, praise the Lord
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| ALL THOSE FAX FANS WHO WENT TO TIP TO WATCH NORTHERN WILL THEY WANT T COME TO SHAY >?
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| Quote ="FAXFOREVER"I'm a bloke in my thirties and followed fax home and away since my dad took me to Thrum hall in 1980. He was a life long fax fan who moved to Bradford before I was born. I have lived in Bradford all my life and growing up on a street full of Northern and later cattle fans, I got plenty of stick. school was always a lovely place on a Monday if we got beat by them and the pothunters came out of the woodwork. I lived about two miles from odsal for a long time and I can honestly say I have waited for this day for a long time!
The honest answer is though that I am so sick and tired of all the under handed dirty dealings taking place in our sport that I have lost all belief and trust in it. I actually want rugby league to thrive, I don't even wish any club, even the cattle to go under but things are wrong in many ways.
The people running this game are killing it and they need to be stopped. I sit here knowing Bradford will be saved, I actually hope they are for the few loyal fans they have, but quite simply they should have this ridiculous franchise reviewed and/or play at a level they can afford to play at. It won't happen because the cowboys who rode into our game have a vested interest in keeping the egg off of their faces.
It stinks, has stunk for a long time and at least they own the deeds to an old dump that one day they'll crawl back to cos that stinks too!
I was always told you reap what you sew. SL clubs need to wake up and let the real RL people run our game.'"
Top post and a big well done for staying loyal in hostile territory, fans like you always amaze me as despite years and years of our neighbours not just at Odslum but over at the Galpharm and Headingleydoing well we still have a hard core of fans even from Bradford and Huddersfield who support Fax, they are so loyal.
That quote about Fat Controller and his cronies at the RFL not wanting any egg on their face is so true, he is a weasel and as he has total control over RL with his Franchise system its like the king in his altogether song, nobody dare speak out as he holds all the aces.
Think about it, if say a Fax Director threatens to cry wolf over this debacle over at Bradford to the media guess what will happen?
Phone call from Fat Controller 'Hi Halifax RLFC, this is Nigel here can I just advise you that if you say anything about the goings on in the game then you can wave goodbye to any chance of getting a Franchise next time around, so maybe you would like to reconsider?'
Maybe this is why he invented this ssytem to give him total aotonomy over the game and the clubs in it???
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| Cheers Fax4life, I appreciate that. Certain times make travelling back to Bradford worthwhile. Coming down rooley lane last Sunday in fax shirt after they got dicked by salford being the most recent!
The reason that the bull bubble is bursting is because even tho the pot hunters from shelf, northowram, brighouse etc left us for them years ago it isn't in the blood. It's easy to back winners, its has to be a part of who you are to stick with your club when things are tough. All of a sudden they don't have success and the glory boys vanish. Sad but true
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| Quote ="FAXFOREVER"Cheers Fax4life, I appreciate that. Certain times make travelling back to Bradford worthwhile. Coming down rooley lane last Sunday in fax shirt after they got dicked by salford being the most recent!
The reason that the bull bubble is bursting is because even tho the pot hunters from shelf, northowram, brighouse etc left us for them years ago it isn't in the blood. It's easy to back winners, its has to be a part of who you are to stick with your club when things are tough. All of a sudden they don't have success and the glory boys vanish. Sad but true'"
You know what I find really offensive is this 'Bradford have too much history not to be in SL' rubbish, yet when we got relegated and hit the buffers like other clubs such as Leigh people forget that we were founder members of RL in 1895 and founder members of SL in 1996 and are older than most clubs with a long history of moderate success (compared to Leeds & Wigan it is) and a historically strong fanbase and the game being strong at amateur level in this area.
All SL is about is NUMBERS, if you put inflated crowds they all BELIEVE them unreservedly, yet look at Bradford yer they look like big crwods but they aint as they have all thses cheap season ticket holders many of which don't even turn up but are counted!
It don't pay bills the the dumb wotsits.
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