The new stadium was signed off a couple of months ago, just waiting on planning permission on Wheldon Road to get the money from Opus North for a Supermarket where the current stadium is, this is being discussed this month by the council and building is pencilled in to start by the end of this year.

If 2 come up it's a 15 team league (which would make sense for the Championship with Toulouse going, promote an extra team from C1 makes it even again). But I can see it staying at 14 and Halifax were only told they're still in the running so the RFL can say they gave them another chance but just don't meet the standard compared to the existing clubs try again in 3 years (when you will beat Wakefield in the criteria).

Just waiting on this, Just waiting on that, You have been waiting for 3 years to take a drawing into a 3D match design. Lets just wait and see where it goes. No Championship games on Sky next year anyway apparently, its going to be premier sport or something if rumours are true.

At least get your facts right



In 3 years there's been 2 buyers for Wheldon Road (first pulled out this year)
Outline & full planning permission granted
Architects appointed and designs completed
Contractors hired
2 sponsors for the stadium adding up to about 10% of total funding

So a lot of movement in 3 years, with no council support in the middle of a global recession.

I dont care about that or your argument, Leigh got themselves into the sports Village, Fax got the Nerw east Stand and Widnes got Stobart Stadium. You have got Planning permision, Achitechts and designs....You must be so proud of your full time proffesionally run company........Get serious !!!

Ok then how about a stadium where all 4 stands can be used, one of the best youth developments in England and a top 8 team in Super League (and making a profit)



Only 1 team are leaving Super League and only 1 will be coming up.

i have a feeling afew Super league fans are getting worried.

although i can only see us going up if they extend to 16 teams, which is more than possible.

At the end of the day you got into Super League last time on promises of playing in a brand new stadium =#FF0000[size=150BY[/size 2012

They can have all the planning permission, fancy designs, architects appointed etc but at the end of the day Cas have not met the promises they made in the last round of franchises.

Just keep believing the spin if it keeps you happy!!!

Not trying to be on the wind up or anything and I'm glad Cas have got this sorted (I even signed something for them at the 9s) but when was the actual permission GIVEN not 'hoped to be given'/fancy designs etc etc? I was under the impression it was after the license deadline date. What was put forward as definately happening and was signed and sealed is what should be accounted for in the process. If Cas didn't get all this permission until after then that should be that and they should be judged as playing at the Jungle now and for the future.

That's a problem the RFL should have not Cas. I'm not blaming Cas if the RFL can't stick to rules.

I think what faxhali is trying to say is, we had many of things in place, but still waited 10 years for 1 stand. Don't pin your hopes, and certainly not your 'licence application' (shiver) on drawings and agreements. They mean sweet fatty arbuckle

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Not much has changed in 5 years. Your licence will be based on Wheldon Road and not the "proposed" new stadium. You will just have to hope that having a modern stadium isnt weighted more than having a youth set up.

And an uneven Championship 1

A team who have been in 4 Finals in 3 years, Won 2 so far, are consistently at the top of their division, Have made profit, Have the facilities and are able to get the sponsorship deals.

As far as top 8 in super league its a bit poor really out of 14 teams.

2008 You finished Bottom in 12th
2009 you finished 7th out of 14
2010 you finished 9th out of 14
2011 you are finishing 7th or 6th at best.

All that does is make you a mid table side at best, Fax took you to Golden Point in Challenge cup and another Championship team beat you the year after.

This would make some sense apart from the fact that at the Widnes franchise anouncement Richard Lewis was specifically asked the question.

"Will Super League be expanded to include more than 14 teams?"
An emphantic no was the answer.

Pressing on the interviewer then asked "What even if there are new backers with extra finacial support?"

Again an emphatic NO was the answer again.

Richard Lewis continued saying "whilst new backers are always very welcome the main concern is the lack of quality players to go round to maintain and improve playing standards for any teams in Super League and to go beyond 14 teams would downgrade the competion in this respect."

Whilst not agreeing with him unless there as been a complete change of mind it will be one up and one down.

Thing with great new money backers is the majority of recent ones in RL have only long term done damage to a club... Crusaders under Samuel as clear example!

I have felt something building with this over the last few weeks, i just cant see it though, i think we all know Wakey are going at this stage, but will they kick Cas out too? i can't see them doing.

i am living in hope though,

we are ready now and Cas are still waiting on If's and But's Huddersfeild have been playing at the shay for their last 3 games and have had no need for the North Stand and i highly doubt if we got in that we would need the North stand too.

They. Don't. Want. Us. In. There

Lewis and wood are playing a cruel game with us to keep their chosen few on their toes. Our time has gone

Sorry but i don't think we are ready at all, mid table in the championship and barely got a functioning youth set up. Other than the stadium Cas are streets ahead with some very promising youngsters and one of the hottest properties in SL in Chase. IF anyone is to get booted out it should be Wakefield.

Mid table in championship doesnt matter one bit, if we were to go up the squad would go through a massive overhaul

Just looking at the table for the last 3 seasons and i dont see Widnes's name walking away with title after title and there in arnt they.

How do you know we wouldnt be ready if we are not in there, surely we couldnt be as bad as Quins and Crusaders could we

Cas are ahead on support yes but not on stadium, we have a better facility now.
Their new stadium still relies on planning decisions and they are assuming that a supermarket will be allowed at their existing ground which from my experience is not certain at all, plus the finances I still have my doubts as people do not just build you a stadium for nowt no way!
The youth argument gets me annoyed, how can we or any other club outside SL (Widnes apart but they have their money man backing them) afford a youth set up plus I believe we would not be allowed to have an U18 team etc.. being from outside SL. We struggle to raise the cash for an U23 - hence the Faxbuilder Fund! Not a level playing field so please do not compare our set up to Cas, if we were in SL we would have a youths set up as good as theirs fact!

I have always doubted the RFL would have the bottle to throw a SL team out no matter what, they would be open to a legal challenge and be embarrssed by the bad press, I fear we will be kept out THIS TIME. But come the failure of the Crusaders or harlequins as they are bound to go bust again sometime soon on those crwods then we need to be ready so keep the faith folks and keep positive.

Sorry for butting in your thread, however Fev have an Under 15's, 16's, 18's 23's, also a ladies team and a wheelchair rugby team.

If there is an area you need and must improve on it is the above. Apart from that, you should be awarded a license.

Good luck on the 26th, I hope you get in.

One of the criteria was an under 23 side. We have got an under 23 side.

Well it'll roll on until the 26th but personally I think that the announcement will come with the new SKY deal which will see an expanded SL with 16 teams in it and Fax being the extra team. The money guy at Wakey is not an idiot and I don't think he would have invested without a guarantee of SL rugby for next 3 years and I can't see them having the balls to kick anybody else out.
Our ground is fine for SL, the team would need to change and our yoof set-up would get a boost by not losing all the quality lads to other SL clubs as we would be able to provide the same opportunities.

What makes you think the other sl clubs will vote for this?.

If they increased sl to 16 clubs it would take £2.5 million a season out of the existing clubs coffers,can you honestly see that happening?.

Since when has what the clubs think, made any difference to what the RFL come up with ?