I wont dismiss you. I have never been to a FC Halifax game in my life. But I have been to hundreds of games of rugby league. I can honestly say, hand on heart, that I have never heard a bad word (at the ground) said / chanted about the football club. The only place I have ever seen any bad feeling is on this message board and on the Halifax Evening Courier site, where some absolute tripe is spouted.

They are absolutely entitled to their opinions, but they should just keep them on their own message boards.

I have a lot of friends who are AFC Halifax fans who can't stand Halifax RL but strangely I can't think of any friends who are rugby fans disliking AFC Halifax. However I can think of several RL fans who think football is a less entertaining sport than RL.

I believe a lot of the arrogance you refer to could be better described as apathy.

I also think there have been a lot of accusations from football fans over things like 'rent' which doesn't help things.

One thing is for certain - the Shay in its current form is a lot better ground than it was 12 years ago and couldn't have been done without some element of the two teams, stadium trust and council working together. I say bravo to all concerned.

What constantly dissapoints me is the relatively low turn out both teams are able to generate from a town with over 100,000 population. I know so many people who are willing to pretend to be life long Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool etc etc fans who have never been within a sniff of the respective stadiums. Likewise with Super League. I can't stand seeing people in Bulls, Rhinos, Hudds shirts in and around town as 15 years ago - this would just not happen.

In fact - apathy is good word all round. Probably sums up the vast majority of the towns population. Happy to whinge about things but not happy to get involved and make a difference.

In fact - having seen the message board for AFC Halifax for the first time it's quite funny.

It appears we spend all our time hanging pictures in the east stand, selling RL shirts to Town fans, not paying rent and making up crowd figures (and only one of those is true).

At least Geoff Butler has posted the same message on that site - a few of their fans on the site at least appear to want to build bridges but far too many will knock it down immediately.

Don't think that's just limited to the football fans.

Can't see why someone would make up the story about the shirt.

"Withholding" of rent was substantially reported.

The Batley crowd figure was CLEARLY overinflated.

Putting up pictures? No idea.

I make that 3 out of 4.

The Halifax RLFC Past Players Association have relocated the Halifax Hall of Fame to the Wall opposite the bar in the Harvey Suite. Town fans have taken great exception to this and many feel it has been done to spite the football club and is the rugby club flexing its muscles!!!!

Really??? How childish does this have to get, we have a proud heritage and history that the whole town should be proud of and if Town have a Hall of Fame why can't they go side by side??

Many Town fans though would have you believe Fax have committed the biggest sin outside of the ten commandments!!

Good point but why is that far more Town fans despise Fax than the other way round?

As for 1 out of 4 or 3 out of 4 - it's all down to how picky you want to be really. Tickets sold/given away. Rent being withheld reasonably (or not - I don't know the full picture. Does anyone?).

Because when the football club were kicked out of the Conference the rugby club (club, not fans) (though probably fans as well) were only too happy to take the ground for their own, a ground which had, for 80 or so years belonged to the football club.

Am I the only one who doesn't know about this? Is this really the case?

And Halifax Town treated Fax like the pest when theyx moved from Thrum Hall. Locking doors and hiding keys. Turning the water off etc. Halifax Town are far from innocent how they have treated Fax at the Shay.

The Rugby fans will still hate the Wendyballers as you say it

and the football fans will hate the Egg chasers,

some people just dont like the other sport theres nothing wrong with that

and move on, i'f have locked this thread if i was a mod [size=50hint hint[/size

belonged? sold to council, bought back sold etc?

End the thread right here. You have managed to hit the nail on the head probably without even knowing you were doing it.

Do you see why?

As a lifelong Town fan I am disappointed by the negativity coming from a small section of both sets of supporters. A bit of banter is OK but a lot of what's been posted on both messageboards is pure vitriol. I can see why Rugby fans have no time for football and footballers when you see idiots like Rooney and Cole behaving like s and I can see where the Town fans are bitter after your successes over the years and then you moving to The Shay. But infighting is not the answer. We need to forget about what's happened in the past and move on together. In my opinion, a good start would be a joint club shop. Please don't shoot me down here!

Sorry mate but I have no time for either the sport of soccer or the club. Maybe if people like Bubba did not post and encourage people to write slander and nasty things not just about the Rugby Club but also people like Roger Harvey then maybe I would have more respect. Sadly I cant see the likes of Bubba and co changing and would not trust such people. I hope Fax remain seperate from the soccer lot as much as possible.

Halifax United?

bet everything was rosy when you were at the shay bob.

I cant be bothered to waste time looking so it would be great if someone could post the link to the Town forum on here so i can have a scan. Like i say though i cant be bothered searching as they would be moments of my life that i cant get back.

Knock yerself out

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Dosnt seem to be much happening but a few of them appear to be getting worked up.

Can somebody please inform me what the relationship was like pre-1998 as i am just a puppy

Yer all true Geoff we want for fans to get on BUT what I find odd is that this is coming from a man who when running the SST you had to raise any valid question through fans representatives but even then you still got stone walled.

You used to insist on all communications through the 'proper channels' and would not allow anything through messageboards, which I agree with personally, but yet you come on here suggesting what the Trusts should be doing.

This is not the place as you said, so don't come on here telling the Trusts and HTST what to do thanks!


Oh and by the way if this game on Sunday was not a hot topic why has things been changed 3 times then???

GFB......