well that blown it now,, now its been on this board they are sure to fine out(EMC), and will sort it,,

Oh right, EMc read the board do they

Basil...

you would be suprised who reads these boards,,









,lol

They will wait until there is a queue at the burger van shortly before kick off, then storm in and tell everyone that sales of Bovril has been postponed until a further investigation can take place. The burger van owner will be suspended but then reinstated in time for the next game after his assistant admits he was responsible for Bovril being added to the menu and resigns.

Is that the secret of your teams success?...well its out now..only joking...well I hope I am...
By the way folks whats EMC.......is it all those new folk in uniforms behind the bar instead of the usual lasses.......still you can't stop progress?
Is it a franchise??
Help me out Fax Machine or at least tell me on sunday in the 3 pigs.

EMC (Event Management Catering) are the company who have the franchise to run the catering.

I thought that was the case.....ta for that

I thought I'd already explained this to you, Mouthy, and that Fax could not be blamed for this as EMC were appointed by Calderdale MBC but I'll go through it once again on Sunday and if possible create a Powerpoint presentation on my laptop and bring it with me.

Would we eat and drink more if they reduced prices, or is it a case of they have us fans over a barrell?
The real smart attitude would have been to involve local businesses and avoid this plastic catering service.
Having said that i dont think you can blame anyone for taking the safe option after the fiasco of finishing the Shay, maybe when the contract is up well see something better, for now, cut your whining and enjoy your sport and dont cut your nose off to spite your face, having a beer during the game is good, move on

Lets get back to berating the underachieving players. But, why do our burgers have less grisle than the Sports Village burgers? hmm!

Anyway, im looking forward to Mondays excuse, should we lose, perhaps Shelfsox can elighten us beforehand.
Ill start you off Shelfsox

'I thought.....................................................'

I'm surprised a burger van hasent pitched up near the ground yet? Would make a killing.

Do you think the council would allow a burger van parked outside the shay given the fact they have an interest in takings inside the stadium?

Its great to see pubs like the three pigeons thriving as a result of these prices in my opinion, nothing to worry about here

Do we actually know for certain if the council get a share of the takings or do they simply charge EMC a set amount for the catering franchise?

My major beef in all of this is that I could live with increased prices if the proceeds were benefitting Halifax RLFC and FCHT or even Calderdale MBC to help them recoup cost of the East Stand development but not just to line the pockets of some faceless corporation.

Why did the council not put the catering out to local tender and keep any benefits in the town? There are enough pubs going out of business. Surely someone would have jumped at the chance to run the bars at the Shay and likewise for the food side of the business.

They put it out to open tender and I dont think any local company showed any interest.

One of the Biggest Losers here though is the Supporters Club

Whereas the SSL used to be packed after a game, with many people staying back buying raffle tickets, Club 1873 membership ect, that was a small but steady stream of revenue which has now been cut massively.

Not really surprising, i think theres still many bridges to rebuild for both Football and Rugby, we've annoyed plenty of people over the years with administrators using revolving doors, even if the council controlled the contract, the track record of the sports clubs probably needed a bigger company that could take a hit if it went pearshaped.
Lets see what happens in the future, see if someone cant be a bit braver than the EMC deal.

Unlike the trend that seems to be for Clubs to tender out matchday catering to outside concerns.. The Cougars have gone the other way and booted out the overpriced Burger van and brought all the matchday food back under the control of the club,with great success.

A week a Sunday you'll find reasonably priced burgers ,hot dogs , chips n bacon butties ,as well as tea n coffee (£1) on sale at the back of the main stand at' Freddies Grill' plus an outlet selling local butchers pies n home made soup ( produced inhouse by our Aussie Prop Brendon Rawlins)
by the Hall of Fame Bar.

Plus our beers only £2.55 for lager and £2.35 for Worthies...

See you all there

I've always enjoyed Trips to Keighley, and was sad that i'm missing this years due to been on Holiday, but now you've told me that i'm totally gutted, Think a special trip over the hill is gonna have to be organised now

Half a season too late for us!


The Cougar pies (I hope they weren't the main ingredient, by the way!) were beltin' but that burger van had bugger all left just after half-time and was charging a fortune for the slim pickings available, so I'm glad that you've booted them out!

One of my favourite away trips but Worthies no thanks prefer the cricket club

Probably be some ' proper ale' on as well if you aint a Worthies Fans...

Also forgot to add that its kids for a quid in ,so long as they have an adult with em

Hardly comparing apples with apples there. The Cougars haven't got a new £5 Million stand that someone has to finance have they!

Get real people. As I understand it, the deal with the catering company, the Council and the clubs is quite unique - not a simple franchise operation, but a case where the Council purchases the service from the catering company at a set price which THE COUNCIL then 'sells' to the clubs in order to make a return on the investment.

As that success grows (through functions, seminars, dinners, private hire as well as matchdays,) there is an agreement in place for some of the money to come back to the stadium/clubs, which wouldn't ever happen in a straight franchise.

And if your retort is "well why don't the clubs publicize this?" it\'s a commercial arrangement between the council and the caterers therefore not the Club's job to divulge sensitive confidential details and pander to the lynch mob.

I'm pretty confident beer and burgers [iare[/i cheaper at Keighley and St Helens and Batley and Workington and Whitehaven and Barrow and Oldham, but dearer at Leeds, Huddersfield, Warrington, Hull, Leigh and loads more... oh wait! They're all clubs with modern facilities and new stadia aren't they?!!!??!?!

Which do you want?

Thats different to how I am led to believe it works.

EMC pay the Council an annual licence for the right to do the catering and run the bars at the stadium. The clubs purchase matchday hospitality direct from EMC which they sell on to their sponsors. For example, the clubs may pay EMC £12.50 per person who is having a meal and the club then charges the person having the meal £30 which is where the clubs make their money on diners.

Officeboy and Bubba, whichever is correct so long as the clubs are getting a share of the proceeds it puts a whole different slant on things.

Officeboy, no-one is asking for a detailed copy of the catering contract to be published (though why it should be secret beats me ) just let the fans of the clubs know that they actually gain from the agreement which is not the general understanding.

Bubs, the technicalities of it may be slightly different to my redcollection - I've usually had a few when told anything important

but the principle that it's not a straight franchise and that the clubs will benefit from the success of the operation is enough to assure me that the thing was entered into with the best possible deal for the clubs and therefore the speccies in mind.

The bleat bleat bleat of those who think we're still at Thrum Hall and nothing's moved on since 1985 gets on my ends.

And Fax Machine, I only read, see and listen to the same things available to everyone else. I'm just prepared to see things from the perspective of others now and again, and with an open mind, which is something that a lot of people on here should do a bit more.

Doesn't that also include match ticket and parking? If so, they are making a loss.