Why on earth would Widnes fans do this bellend?

All bar one have said that it was a bad hit and if it is as bad as it looks and he gets banned they all agree that would be right. Even the [ibar one[/i agrees it was bad but isn't bothered due to Sheffields alleged tactics.

Mebbes your just worried because we now have a pack that won't be shoved around anymore mate



Not that your pack shoved us around much last season though

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Personally thought our pack got the better of yours in the first 3 games before you steam rollered us in the 4th game. We didnt get a chance to take revenge in the plyoffs though.

Aaah but we'd already reached our objective by then though

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We had nothing else to play for

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Defo a try if it had been a video ref decision. Also, good to see that both teams have been relegated to Championship 2 (15 seconds into the video)....












... before anyone responds, I do realise that it means match 2 of the season.

Haggertys lucky it only caught Sam on the cheek, anywhere else on his head and he would have suffered some serious damage to his elbow.

I remember that. Mozza's eye was a beauty after that strike.

That shot from Haggerty should have been a straight red, (if it was seen), and should have been referred to the disciplinary panel to be dealt with asap, whether on report or not. Perhaps someone can confirm that the incident could be cited by the Match Commissioner for prompt review?

As far as I know all championship reports or sendings off are dealt with on the Tuesday of the following week and not the current week, so even if he did get a red card he would still be able to play on Thursday.

From a team that employ Thamghart & Watene? lol.

No one is condoning what Haggs did and he will rightly get a ban he just took a personal battle with Barlow way to far!

Widnes have never been cheap shot merchants and have often suffered becuase we get ruffed up in the Championship, so once we get some players who can take it and give some rougher stuff back like Gannon we suddenly become a dirty team? I don't think so, Eagles fans said Widnes used spoil tactics last week yet still scored 44 points away from home?

Fax saw at the end of last season playing fancy rugby isn't enough hence why they signed the likes of Aizue & Gene to toughen things up, so why when Widnes do it are we 'lowering the game' etc etc.

Maybe not but you've always been dirty buggers

Big Jim in his pomp ?
Kurt Sorenson ?
Crikey the list is endless....


Every team has had their fair share, don't worry your self over it.

cheap shot by a dirty basterd who should get fined and banned

Lets just make one massive distinction, TOUGH is different to DIRTY.
What Haggerty did was not TOUGH it was DIRTY.

Said, Makali, Watene et al are tough not DIRTY.

Carry on.

I think those are fair distinctions mate but I would also make the distinction that Haggerty is not typically a dirty player. His actions on Sunday belie this fact and I think most are surprised that it was this player involved.
For whatever reason, and personally I think he had a few without condoning the hit, he lost his temper and his aggression boiled over from acceptable levels.

You can guarantee one thing though....
following the match on Sunday Halifax will be instructed to go out there and try and rile us on Thursday night. I'm sure Calland will have pointed to one or two players in our side that might lose their heads. Expect some 'aggressive' play and few angels on that pitch from either side.

In defence of Turley he went to his linesman on more than one occasion for clarification, notably the 'try', the drop out and the awful shot by Haggerty, which should see a 7 game ban for intent. That assault was that late I would imagine Turley saw it in the corner of his eye as the ball was miles away.

Anyway I hope you knock seven bells out of each other tomorrow, I understand the Widnes pack think they can bully yours all over the park, in which case Black hides and Widnes rack the points up.

So one shot defines a career? Players like Rob Roberts IMO are dirty as all they offer is cheap shots and constant mouthing off at people. The others are 'enforcers' who unfotunately once or twice cross a line. I've seen young Widnes lads booted in the head off the ball and less fuss be made tbh! I expect a 3 game ban and righly.

Apparently Barlow spat at Haggerty priot to that play the ball and he gave him a good whack in return.

You can feel his full force before his ban.

I've not seen this one but Jeremy Smith has got a 2 match ban and £300 fine for use of the elbow on Danny Orr; www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1674 I'm not sure if Haggy has [iprevious[/i but he genuinely doesn't seem like a thuggish type of player IMO. May be some substance in the spitting allegations (pardon the pun)! as I've never seen him act like this before and he seems if anything a bit daft on the field - laughing and joking with opposition players. I know if someone had spat at me I'd be rather displeased to say the least. If there was no spitting then it's a different matter again.

I've not seen this one but Jeremy Smith has got a 2 match ban and £300 fine for use of the elbow on Danny Orr; www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1674 I'm not sure if Haggy has [iprevious[/i but he genuinely doesn't seem like a thuggish type of player IMO. May be some substance in the spitting allegations (pardon the pun)! as I've never seen him act like this before and he seems if anything a bit daft on the field - laughing and joking with opposition players. I know if someone had spat at me I'd be rather displeased to say the least. If there was no spitting then it's a different matter again.

The RFL' discplinary pannel has never made sense tbh alwyas differing in punishments for same 'crimes' etc.

One example... Kav got red for elbow use and that was deemed sufficient punishment. Yet Roberts went up on same charge and got off scott free? So why was Kavanagh red carded etc?

I don't think he should be getting a lengthy ban, because from what you've been saying he's had no previous issues. But he shouldn't be allowed to play the week after the incident.

If he has no previous then they may give him a 3 or 4 match ban with part or all of the ban suspended.

I think though that he will probably get a part suspended ban as no punishment was carried out on the field against the player. Maybe a 4 match ban with 2 suspended or even a 3 match ban with 2 suspended.

I agree that the disciplinary should sit in the week following the alleged transgression - others may just think you're running scared and want him banned before he smashes your pack to pieces

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He'll eat Shirley and Tampons for his supper.

I just feel for Haggerty, having to go up against too hard nuts in Aizue and Tamghart.

Tamghart was ineffective last year at Widnes, he got dominated by their pack. This could mean he has something to prove which could be interesting.

Be interesting to see if Calland goes with 3 props on the bench once more like he did against Sheffield.