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| Quote ="houdini"There is more teams in halifax than the london league
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But Halifax has more teams than most areas except maybe for Hull, Leeds, Wigan/ Leigh, Wakefield/Castleford, St.Helens areas. But London has still way more than the likes of Bradford, Oldham, Huddersfield, York/North Yorks which are strong League areas for decades if not Centuries.
The Point I was making was that there is alot of RL played in London but very few people know about it!
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| There is alot played in London and still harlequins cant attract fans
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| Quote ="houdini"There is alot played in London and still harlequins cant attract fans'"
Probably due to London Transport system and road network being a pain in the especially on the weekend! It can easily take well over 2 hours from many parts of London including South London to Quins as its a hike from the nearest Underground and Bus Journey is a nightmare. Driving in London is a joke!That said Quins should get bigger crowds!
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| Doesn't seem to affect quins union crowds that. I suspect that many in london dont know RL exists, partly due to lack of effort by the club but mainly due to lack of interest by a union bias media down here
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Doesn't seem to affect quins union crowds that. I suspect that many in london dont know RL exists, partly due to lack of effort by the club but mainly due to lack of interest by a union bias media down here'"
But how long have Quins been around and playing at one venue? The problem with Quins, Broncos/Crusaders/Fulham is that they have never really stayed anywhere long enough to build up much in the local area for a number of years. As far as I know they have played at Craven Cottage, Chiswick Tech, Barnet FC, Brentford FC, Charlton FC (Two different eras!), Stoop, Crystal Palace (2 Different eras!), Hendon FC as well as the odd game at Chelsea FC and Wealdstone amongst others. No team is going to properly develop under that-and I am surprised Pro RL has survived so long as it is a joke to attempt to run and develop a club when virtually every 2nd year you move to a new ground with no officies to properly run out of!
Really Pro RL in London and other "Expansion" areas has been done on a shoe string budget and run by a group of clueless people! Paris SG, Southend, South Wales, cardiff Blue Dragons, Mansfield/Nottingham for example. If the game and the RFL are going to do expansion it should be done properly-but never is sadly and why Expansion is often laughed at.
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"Probably due to London Transport system and road network being a pain in the booty especially on the weekend! It can easily take well over 2 hours from many parts of London including South London to Quins as its a hike from the nearest Underground and Bus Journey is a nightmare. Driving in London is a joke!That said Quins should get bigger crowds!'"
That`s strange how come the Kiwi/Aussies and northerners working in London can get to the matches but Londoners can`t. Also how can the Londoners struggle to get to the soccer games as well. It`s because they like football down there , while anyones entitled to watch what they want and good luck to them I am against London geting any favours over and above anybody else they have been in the game long enough by now to be on a level playing field.
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"But how long have Quins been around and playing at one venue? The problem with Quins, Broncos/Crusaders/Fulham is that they have never really stayed anywhere long enough to build up much in the local area for a number of years. As far as I know they have played at Craven Cottage, Chiswick Tech, Barnet FC, Brentford FC, Charlton FC (Two different eras!), Stoop, Crystal Palace (2 Different eras!), Hendon FC as well as the odd game at Chelsea FC and Wealdstone amongst others. No team is going to properly develop under that-and I am surprised Pro RL has survived so long as it is a joke to attempt to run and develop a club when virtually every 2nd year you move to a new ground with no officies to properly run out of!
Really Pro RL in London and other "Expansion" areas has been done on a shoe string budget and run by a group of clueless people! Paris SG, Southend, South Wales, cardiff Blue Dragons, Mansfield/Nottingham for example. If the game and the RFL are going to do expansion it should be done properly-but never is sadly and why Expansion is often laughed at.'"
And that is the fault of who ?
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| London has various soccer teams and so fans do not need to travel too far to watch the Pro game. Plus Soccer is big especially in London with Arsenal, Chelsea etc. Many Sports struggle in London including Rugby Union as former London Clubs have moved out Saracens to Watford, Wasps to Wycombe and London Irish to Reading! Probably now only Quins are a London based team and even they are based on the outskirts to the west. If Union is struggling then why should League be any different?
Many Aussies, Kiwis do not go to games but many do as they often are in the West London area rather than in South London where RL has its biggest presence in the City.
Quote And that is the fault of who ?'"
Partly the RFL by helping London/Quins get in to SL by default and doing everything to help them without getting to the real root of the problem.But mainly the people running the club(s) as they have never really made them a "Local" product but just let them play games using mainly Aussies who stay a year or two adding to the unstability. Why would a Londoner travel say 1 hour to watch a team that has little local presence, is struggling to stay alive and whos ground is a pain to get to? No wionder they struggle to get over 3000.
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| Earlier in this thread there is some discussion about the gates and how they are disappointing given Halifax's form and the fact they are chasing the title.
One thing to bear in mind is that occasional fans will be put off by the uncompetitive nature of some fixtures, they won't want to see Halifax winning by 54-14, to date we've played a lot of the lesser teams at home in the league, the better teams have still to come to the Shay and hopefully that will see some improvement.
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| Quote ="Thrum_Haller"Earlier in this thread there is some discussion about the gates and how they are disappointing given Halifax's form and the fact they are chasing the title.
One thing to bear in mind is that occasional fans will be put off by the uncompetitive nature of some fixtures, they won't want to see Halifax winning by 54-14, to date we've played a lot of the lesser teams at home in the league, the better teams have still to come to the Shay and hopefully that will see some improvement.'"
I can't understand people like that though. I love it when we go on the rampage - you get champagne Rugby League. Like someone else posted earlier - it's like watching Brazil
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| Quote ="littlerich"Like someone else posted earlier - it's like watching Brazil
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It sure is. The crowd go nuts!
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| Quote ="Yob"It sure is. The crowd are nuts!
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| Quote ="Thrum_Haller"Earlier in this thread there is some discussion about the gates and how they are disappointing given Halifax's form and the fact they are chasing the title.
One thing to bear in mind is that occasional fans will be put off by the uncompetitive nature of some fixtures, they won't want to see Halifax winning by 54-14, to date we've played a lot of the lesser teams at home in the league, the better teams have still to come to the Shay and hopefully that will see some improvement.'"
I really don't understand the mindset of people who won't support their team because they are kicking ass, sounds like an excuse to me, and a pretty feeble one at that.
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| Quote ="paulifax"I really don't understand the mindset of people who won't support their team because they are kicking ass, sounds like an excuse to me, and a pretty feeble one at that.'"
It never harmed Bradford, or Leeds, or Wigan, Or Saints
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| Quote ="Brew"It never harmed Bradford, or Leeds, or Wigan, Or Saints'"
I'm pretty sure our glory seeker fans didn't desert us for Stains and Pies
I don't really mind transient support as its all cash for the club but it still annoys me when people don't want to see our brand of champagne rugby but still say 'I'm a fax fan' when they only go to 3 games if at all, if they did they'd support fax through the 'thin' as well as the 'thick'.
Come seasons end there will be fans who have been to most games this season looking at missing out because some of the 20,000 fans we suddenly find when we've got to a final will have bought their tickets. It still amazes me that in 87 we took 30,000 to the final at Wembley but didn't break 8,000 all season at TH which incidentally meant I didn't get to go to the final. Grrrr.
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| Quote ="paulifax"I really don't understand the mindset of people who won't support their team because they are kicking ass, sounds like an excuse to me, and a pretty feeble one at that.'"
leigh looked to be trying throughout the game and played without any dirty tactics.
Some of the tries we scored came from real individual brilliance, and when i watched them on the courier website were SL quality. I don't agree with an assessment that there are any easy wins in our league any more.
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| Quote ="harry1"leigh looked to be trying throughout the game and played without any dirty tactics.
Some of the tries we scored came from real individual brilliance, and when i watched them on the courier website were SL quality. I don't agree with an assessment that there are any easy wins in our league any more.'"
Must have been watching a different game to me then. Were constantly throwing high shots, and petty things like grabbing Frankies hair. That is their game plan though - same as last year.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Must have been watching a different game to me then. Were constantly throwing high shots, and petty things like grabbing Frankies hair. That is their game plan though - same as last year.'"
And the year before that.....and the year before that.....
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| some of the tries we scored at the weekend were of a high calabre i was especially impressed with 2 of them particaulaly the beswick flick pass to send greenwood under the sticks at the start of the second half that is difficult to do and even more difficult for greenwood to take hold of being so close to beswick when he made the pass.
the second one was the ben black chip over the top to himself that was a play that you here stevo call for on a regular basis on super league coverage when games are tight or a team has run out of ideas it is a very difficult skill to do on the run and the touch of it to get it short enough to reclaim it is difficult to do well done to him for thinking of that and executing it really well as well.
some good super league standard tries scored at the weekend need to keep that going into this weekend against barrow.
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| Quote ="Brew"It never harmed Bradford, or Leeds, or Wigan, Or Saints'"
Not sure that's true. Think some Bulls, Wigan and Saints fans got bored.
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