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| Quote ="Starbug"They have taken a business decision , just like many people do all the time
Yesterday a customer of mine questioned a price I had given them , my answer was , " I have two choices , I price stuff too expensive and go bust through lack of work , or I price stuff too cheap and go bust through lack of profit "
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That is up to them and if it works for them and gets people interested again then good for them what it is thats actually winding me up is them as a result wanting 1000s of free tickets at the club I loves exspense.
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"That is up to them and if it works for them and gets people interested again then good for them what it is thats actually winding me up is them as a result wanting 1000s of free tickets at the club I loves exspense.'"
Once again you need to look to Red Hall for that one , something ' Dicky ' and ' Nige ' thought up over morning tea and ' biccies '
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| being thats its unlikely the north stand will be sorted in time i think the free tickets should be for the skircoat only and if they still want to attend after the skircoat stand tickets have gone they can pay like anyone else. i dont think its wise to make it all ticket as this has backfired many times in the past as fans often decide on the day to see how they feel and the weather ect. if we make it all ticket many will just think "i will watch it on bbc"
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| Quote ="lmw"being thats its unlikely the north stand will be sorted in time i think the free tickets should be for the skircoat only and if they still want to attend after the skircoat stand tickets have gone they can pay like anyone else. i dont think its wise to make it all ticket as this has backfired many times in the past as fans often decide on the day to see how they feel and the weather ect. if we make it all ticket many will just think "i will watch it on bbc"'"
The North stand as to be ready whats with the hanging around?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Once again you need to look to Red Hall for that one , something ' Dicky ' and ' Nige ' thought up over morning tea and ' biccies '
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Trust me I think them 2 have a lot to answer for
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| Quote ="lmw"being thats its unlikely the north stand will be sorted in time i think the free tickets should be for the skircoat only and if they still want to attend after the skircoat stand tickets have gone they can pay like anyone else. i dont think its wise to make it all ticket as this has backfired many times in the past as fans often decide on the day to see how they feel and the weather ect. if we make it all ticket many will just think "i will watch it on bbc"'"
You are obliged to give them a percentage of the available capacity , and to avoid H and S issues ( ie , all 10,000 turning up demanding to be let in ) it is highly unlikely that a council run stadium will not have this match all ticket , let alone the issues of large amounts of money being taken at the turnstiles
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"The North stand as to be ready whats with the hanging around?'"
because they will have to draw up plans of making calls to contractors to do the work and how long does this usually take the council? i think if it was planned to do soon we would of heard something. i know the council has agreed to pay but getting them to do it is hard work
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"Trust me I think them 2 have a lot to answer for
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It is a stupid situation to be in, and another well thought out RFL strategy to get more in at the challenge cup. No offence to other clubs, but if it wasn't Halifax I don't think it would be as big an issue with the season ticket holders. But this game means a lot to both sets of fans, its a derby we haven't had competitively for a long time and one I have been wanting to come up in the challenge cup for a while!
It will be all ticket no doubt about that! And if this was later on in the rounds, it would be a huge money maker for you and that I would guess most Bradford fans with any common sense would feel bad about! I have jokingly said on the bulls board move it to odsal and give Halifax 100% of the ticket sales profit and 50/50 profits from the bar etc so that you can get some money out of it. RFL seriously need to think about this for next season though taking into account what Bulls have done and the liklihood other teams will follow suit as it is harsh on all the fans who have got a ticket and are entitled too a freebie.
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| Quote ="Liane"It is a stupid situation to be in, and another well thought out RFL strategy to get more in at the challenge cup. No offence to other clubs, but if it wasn't Halifax I don't think it would be as big an issue with the season ticket holders. a freebie.'"
It is a big issue to most clubs if you look at the draw , only one all SL clash means around 8 other Championship clubs will make bugger all from this round of the Challenge Cup , with 3 others drawing clubs with no decent traveling support anyway
Basically the Challenge Cup is dead as far as Championship clubs are concerned as a money making venture
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| Quote ="Starbug"It is a big issue to most clubs if you look at the draw , only one all SL clash means around 8 other Championship clubs will make bugger all from this round of the Challenge Cup , with 3 others drawing clubs with no decent traveling support anyway
Basically the Challenge Cup is dead as far as Championship clubs are concerned as a money making venture'"
I do think you are in a slightly worse situation, but I do see your point, if you get a home draw you should be able to benefit from it! I would suggest the RFL are compensating for it. I would guess though most other fans don't have everyone signed up too a season ticket, so maybe have walk up options. Most people likely to go too a bradford game now have a season ticket.
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| all this is why as i stated earlier that the tickets are for your 1st cup game if drawn at home or should be anyway
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| Quote ="lmw"all this is why as i stated earlier that the tickets are for your 1st cup game if drawn at home or should be anyway'"
Not convinced on the legality of that. I think you are able to offer something that is available but limited to a number but not offer something, someone may not benefit from due to luck etc.
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| Quote ="Liane"I do think you are in a slightly worse situation, but I do see your point, if you get a home draw you should be able to benefit from it! I would suggest the RFL are compensating for it. I would guess though most other fans don't have everyone signed up too a season ticket, so maybe have walk up options. Most people likely to go too a bradford game now have a season ticket.'"
But those that don't have their SL season ticket won't go to the game , that's why the brought this daft idea in , because the Challenge cup is a SL competition only now , SL fans will not pay to watch their team play lower league opposition , club or sport eh ?
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| Quote ="Liane"Not convinced on the legality of that. I think you are able to offer something that is available but limited to a number but not offer something, someone may not benefit from due to luck etc.'"
Same could apply with your game , if all 11,000 demanded a ticket as in theory they have paid for it , what could you do ?
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| Quote ="Liane"Not convinced on the legality of that. I think you are able to offer something that is available but limited to a number but not offer something, someone may not benefit from due to luck etc.'"
thats why its counted as an extra free game that you have not paid for when buying your season ticket and yes if your lucky enough to be drawn at home
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| i think i posted this earlier on in the thread but we must get something out of the bulls free season tickets. the RFL must give us something. Look at our 3rd round clash with lock lane. they brought about 100 fans does that mean we split the 100 gate reciepts 50/50? what is the difference between our season tickets being used for the 3rd round and the super league clubs getting the 4th round? what would have happened if lock lane had beaten us and they drew bradford?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Same could apply with your game , if all 11,000 demanded a ticket as in theory they have paid for it , what could you do ?'"
It says due to availability, but I get the point it is a complete mess! I like playing lower leagues - different grounds / teams - always an upset somewhere!
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| All Halifax have to give is 30% of the capacity to visiting club! Most grounds in The RFL would struggle to accommodate 11k season ticket holders at their ground!! The Shay is no different. Warrington, Cas, Wakefield, Salford the list goes on. Let's face it no matter who they drew (apart from the clubs at larger football grounds) this issue would have raised it's ugly head!!
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| Quote ="chris_smith"All Halifax have to give is 30% of the capacity to visiting club! Most grounds in The RFL would struggle to accommodate 11k season ticket holders at their ground!! The Shay is no different. Warrington, Cas, Wakefield, Salford the list goes on. Let's face it no matter who they drew (apart from the clubs at larger football grounds) this issue would have raised it's ugly head!!'"
The same thing happened last year when we had Dewsbury it was the allocation sold on a first come first served basis. The year before (the first year this was offered) we were away at Catalans. How the Bulls share there allocation amongst the season ticket holders is our problem. I think the worry on here is whether you get the cash for it. I honestly thought the RFL compensated via the some sort of payment from the SL clubs to make up for this which is the only way it would be fair to offer it. Ask Dewsbury fans because they had it last year?
BTW I was on a wind up earlier playing up to the stereotype as I pointed out but I think Lianne has proved that not all Bulls/Superleague fans are d1cks. I like Lianne and probably a lot of other people on RLFANS will buy a ticket from Halifax if we don't get our free one because we've waited for this game for ages.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"The same thing happened last year when we had Dewsbury it was the allocation sold on a first come first served basis. The year before (the first year this was offered) we were away at Catalans. How the Bulls share there allocation amongst the season ticket holders is our problem. I think the worry on here is whether you get the cash for it. I honestly thought the RFL compensated via the some sort of payment from the SL clubs to make up for this which is the only way it would be fair to offer it. Ask Dewsbury fans because they had it last year?
BTW I was on a wind up earlier playing up to the stereotype as I pointed out but I think Lianne has proved that not all Bulls/Superleague fans are d1cks. I like Lianne and probably a lot of other people on RLFANS will buy a ticket from Halifax if we don't get our free one because we've waited for this game for ages.'"
Maybe you won't get the opportunity to buy a ticket from the Halifax club, seeing as the Halifax supporters have also been waiting for this fixture for a long time...
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| Quote ="marillion man"Maybe you won't get the opportunity to buy a ticket from the Halifax club, seeing as the Halifax supporters have also been waiting for this fixture for a long time...'"
This sums it up for me really.
And as Chris says a little earlier, we only need to give Bradford 30% of the overall available tickets.
How good would it be, because of demand from the Halifax people, we can only give Bradford 30%.
Its not our problem they have so many season ticket holders (who cares how they got them!).
We were drawn at home, so we need to make the most of home advantage, and it that means having to sell 70% of the tickets.....let's have a crack at it!!!
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| LOL at us selling more than 3 or 4K max tickets for this game. Really?
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| Too right 70% of sales to Fax Fans !!!
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Too right 70% of sales to Fax Fans !!!'"
Its not that far for a lot of bulls fans to the shay. I'd love to know what percentage of bulls registered season ticket holders actually reside in the HX/HD6 Areas?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"LOL at us selling more than 3 or 4K max tickets for this game. Really?'"
HOW MANY DID WE TAKE TO WIRE FOR THE GF?
3500-4000.
I SEE NO REASON, IF MARKETED CORRECTLY WHY WE CANNOT SELL THE SAME FOR THE BRADFORD GAME.
I WOULD SUSPECT THE HALIFAX CLUB WILL NEED TO COMMIT PRETTY SOON HOW MANY TICKETS THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE BRADFORD. IF IT IS ONLY 30% OF THE 6,600 CAPSITY THEN WE BETTER MAKE SURE WE SELL OUT OUR ALLOCTATION, OTHERWISE WE WILL LOOK ABIT DAFT. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, ANY AVAILABLE TICKETS COULD BE BOUGHT BY BULLS FANS.
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