Im not sure there has been a mention of spitting his dummy out rather a player that is not happy about not been selected. Id expect that from any player. I suspect its more a case of unhapiness towards the coach because he's playing to a different set of rules than some other players.

It would be interesting to hear Grix's real thoughts on the matter. Grix signed Springer and most fans could see what type of player he is from watching him. Did Grix think he could change that? Maybe he came under pressure from people above paying a player who wasn't playing. The whole timing is out as we already look low on numbers which makes us suspect that someone is lined up.

I take your your point about what grix sees in training that we as fans don't but springer playing about 30 mins per game is what he as done most of is career. I would assume most coaches talk to one another and if he had a bad attitude surely that would be common knowledge. And i would of thought we signed him to be a impact player not a workhorse for 80 mins basically we knew what we were getting. One last point gadwin spent a good few seasons at castleford under Powell as a coach who is considered one of the best in this country if he had these faults as a player how did he last that length of time there.

Tbh I was gutted when I saw the announcement, I like the type of player springer was going forward dynamic with an offload and I feel with springer Hewitt and bourough gone we have lost a bit of explosiveness especially in the 2nd phase , I would like to believe we have at least one or two players already pencilled in to come in . As regards springer I knew there was a problem as he was replaced in the Widnes game and at the end of the game I was watching him , everyone was congratulating each other and immersed in the Tyrer return and springer looked a little lost , he lives in Normanton I believe so the move to featherstone appears more practical for him . I agree there perhaps seems a little bit of inconsistency in grixs’ cut throat attitude to some players but not others ie worthington who I think is the only player not to score yet throughout the whole squad but is workrate , defence and attitude is spot on but as never been dropped.

I also have a feeling that Grixs’ play style may not marry up to Lawrence turners promise of expansive rugby , if you watch the press conference at the beginning of the panthers rebrand Grix doesn’t say much in response to turners indication of free flowing rugby but in his pre and post match interviews his focus is defend make little errors then use the energy saved by that for attack . It may be that Grix was persuaded by Turner to sign a marquee player like springer in an attempt to attract more fans , like I said in my previous post it’s all conjecture so who knows .

Who are these other players?
Off the top of my head I can think of several who have been left out.
Larroyer, Rawsthorne, Salty, McGrath, McComb, Calcott, Davies, Borough (who should be back with us and eligible for selection this week) etc etc but none of these have followed the route Gad has.
If a different set of rules exist why aren’t any of them so unhappy they want to leave?
How is it every player I have listened to aren’t talking about division within the club, in fact it’s the opposite such as togetherness, team spirit and watching each others back that has played a big part in the current winning streak?
Absolutely gutted to lose our main impact player but he’s gone, the club comes first, time to move on.

To be fair 4 out of the 8 you mention are squad players and probably not expected to play many games. I doubt Springer was signed as a player to pad out the squad. Rawsthorne, Salty and Borough have only been left out when unavailable or injured. When Larroyer was not selected I also thought it were a bad decision because im picking him over our squad players and players like Kav and Garside every day of the week.

This is the problem,the squad gets weaker as the season progresses.Bring in a couple now and we’re still two down and we weren’t good enough at the beginning...

Yes totally agree that any player should not be happy about being left out. I was left out many times!

Rather than mouth off to the coach or sulk that player should work harder and force himself into consideration. No player is bigger than the team and if he thinks he is than has totally the wrong attitude.

...or we are happy to just plod through the season as nobody knows where the game is going?

So, so far we've 'plodded' our way to 3rd in the table!

I guess you'll never really know what has gone on but, as a leader, having a disgruntled employee in your team (no matter what you are doing) can very easily upset the balance and lead to poor performance all round. One bad apple and all that....

Better to prune out the dissent before it goes too far. For me this is a sign of a leader who understands his team and is not afraid of making the difficult decisions.

My point is more about the league as a whole rather than Fax's season. If perhaps there isn't going to be promotion/relegation this year saving money might be an option.

I get what you're saying but saving money means poorer results, which will affect longer term fan base so may be counter productive. Plus anyone who has worked for an organization which is 'Cost Saving Driven' will know that is just as bad as having a bad apple in the barrel.

I totally agree with you. As you say SG has got us to third which, on our budget, could be seen as a success. Let's hope the winning run continues on Sunday. Up The Fax!

I dont know were the idea that springer is a bad apple in the squad as come from if somebody on here is in the know then far enough you know more than me about what as gone on behind the scenes. But reading the comments from ian croad and simon grix there is no insinuation of springer having a bad attitude. From what i have been told grix was not happy with gadwins defence and he was being stubborn about the changes grix wanted him to make to that area of is game they came to a impasse on this and that was why the decision was made for him to leave.

This is exactly what I was told... Simon wasn't happy with Gadwin's work around the ruck/defence. And in fairness if you watch the highlights of when Gadwin played you can't really argue with it. I agree he was exciting going forward but did that offset the drawbacks... Suppose thats down to peoples opinions. But more importantly the only opinion that matters is the head coaches. He was our 'Marquee' signing so it will free some money up. Only concern is that there's no one available to sign in his replacement.

Hopefully Grix has learnt a lesson in that respect because he could probably have watched any of Springer's games for his previous clubs and come to the conclusion he wasn't the best in defence.

Maybe he believed he was able to coach him to become a better player in this aspect. Then again was it Simon's decision to sign Springer?

Ultimately as a fan I was excited when we signed Springer but i've not been blown away by his performances. We move on.

This is what I meant by 'Bad Apple'. Challenging authority is always tricky (especially if you're right!), and someone challenging the coach and openly disagreeing with him will affect the attitude within the team.

What a load of bollx.In last six games he featured we shipped an average of around 6 points a game-fantastic...
What ******* difference did it make ? I'd rather he saved his energy for going forward,we have plenty of others who only have defense in their lockers anyway....

This. I thought against Haven we badly missed him and Borough and the quick play the balls we got on the back of Springer.

At the end of the day the lad was o.k. but no worldbeater. On we go. Up The Fax! King's Head, shuddersfield, Salopian Raising Tides 5.0% Mmm!

Around quick play the balls the two players in the team with the quickest are Greg Worthington and Elliot Morris… I’ve heard some poor assessments of Greg because he’s not scored. Just keep an eye on him this week: wins the ruck the majority of the time, teams generally don't score down that edge and his quick play the balls… one of the best players we have, my opinion! Up the Panthers

Worthington has been one of our outstanding performers imho. Defends superbly, always makes ground after contact and as said does a fast play the ball. Big boots to step into but not let us down at all. One of the top centres in the Championship.

Your opinion is correct!

Ive not heard anyone say anything bad about Worthington to be honest. Unfortunatley for him given the style of rugby we play he's never going to get a load of tries as Grix as a modern coach is trying to attack defenders left shoulders which is why our right edge sees so much ball. The flip side is most opposition are doing the same and they won't get much change out of Worthington.