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| Quote ="Yob"You should have read the whole thread before making some of those comments. The slagging match was not started by me, I just joined in and rather childishly, retaliated!
I totally accept that people's loyalties on here would lay with the club, and don't hold that against anybody in any way, but to have all these comments directed at me makes me thinks some of you need to take your blinkers off!
'" Think most people would agree that we're really not that interested in you Yob. As we are all Halifax fans I think it's fair to say we're more interested in the club than your mundane rants
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| In some instances Volunteers work harder than paid staff. I don't particulary give a toss about my job, but as long as I get paid every month, I'm alright. If I had a job I liked I'd work harder but thats life aint it.
If I volunteered to do something, I'd actually be doing something I wanted to do, so chances are I'd put more effort into it as its a cause I wanted to suceed.
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| I don't know what you are all getting so worked up about, we all know the only team to have the neccesary structure in place to pass the SL requirements is Widnes. For one, the RFL have apparantly taken a very dim view of Halifax ditching their academy.
Now if we can only sort out our on the pitch performances.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever" For one, the RFL have apparantly taken a very dim view of Halifax ditching their academy.
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Says who? And if the RFL had a proper academy/reserves League which served some purpose then Fax probably would not of got rid of the reserves for 1 year! Teams failing to turn up and the costs of running a team in a joke competition amongst other things made Fax make that decision. Hopefully this new League will be better organized and run next year- though I doubt it to be honest!
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| Quote ="SID SCOOP"Think most people would agree that we're really not that interested in you Yob. As we are all Halifax fans I think it's fair to say we're more interested in the club than your mundane rants
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Ihave just read back through this thread and as far as I can see you've got it wrong. It wasn't Yob that started this , he had things said about him first. On a public message board ( which should not have been publicly talked about)he is just sticking up for himself. As I have said before ,why not keep it on PM'd. To save everyone's embarrasment??
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| Quote ="SID SCOOP"Think most people would agree that we're really not that interested in you Yob. As we are all Halifax fans I think it's fair to say we're more interested in the club than your mundane rants
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Cheers big ear/s
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Yup thats why Cullen has come out and stated that Widnes supporters should stop thinking that the club has a SL set up when it doesnt.
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He is right though , we are all lagging behind Widnes at the moment
Having said that they like us all still have to ' Qualify ' to submit an application , as I doubt Leigh making the GF we will ' Qualify ' this season by winning the NRC
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| Quote ="Starbug"He is right though , we are all lagging behind Widnes at the moment
Having said that they like us all still have to ' Qualify ' to submit an application , as I doubt Leigh making the GF we will ' Qualify ' this season by winning the NRC
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Wheres the evidence of this other than the waffle from the club? They have come out to say that they arent full time now after SOC stated he would fund them full time until the next SL licences - other than the fan base (which has remained impressive but hasnt improved) what other evidence is there that they are that far ahead?
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| & they have parted company with the assitant coach, Stankevitch as he didnt want reduced hours.
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| Good thread spoilt by shat.... If you have problems and "are in the know" do your dirty laundry behind a message board. Shame on you all.
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| Quote ="Yob"Malcolm, if you are going to get personal, I can give as good as I get!
I'd say that you put in a lot of time and effort, but you're past your Sell By date and cause far too many problems, such as taking delivery and paying many thousands of pounds for shirts 3/4 of the way into the season, when the problem in them being delivered so late was down to the supplier.
Also, such as negotiating to take over sponsors sponsorships and seeking the Trust members permissions to do so, then going ahead without their approval, vus depriving the club of potential sponsorship monies/donations!
In my opinion a paid Part Time employee would do a better job, so long as the person was qualified in the area they are working. With the best will in the world, somebody is going to do a better job if their income depended on it, than somebody who can come and go whenever they want and with no financial motivation.
A volunteer can be very valuable, but have them doing the jobs they can handle.
As for me putting money in to replace you, that isn't going to happen! That's up to the board to build it into the budget!'"
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| this topic as turned into a load of crap and getting very personal and should be locked or get back onto the topic
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| Quote ="SID SCOOP"Last Saturday I was asked by Illingworth RLFC if I could help out with their junior presentation night. They wanted a Halifax player to present the trophies and big Frank Watene gave up his Saturday evening at just a few hours notice and travelled over from his Castleford home to present the awards. The youngsters were thrilled to bits and all think Halifax are great. This is just an example of some of the positive things they do in the community.
Ben Black is kindly giving up his Saturday evening to present the trophies at Halifax Irish's presentation night tomorrow. He was only asked yesterday as well.'"
That really is fantastic, that is some of the most powerful advertising you can get in a way. With such a cult hero as Watene, the kids do love him, they will want to see him play and will drag the parents along for the ride and hopefully after a great display and win against Leigh on Sunday, return.
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| Quote ="Haighy"That really is fantastic, that is some of the most powerful advertising you can get in a way. With such a cult hero as Watene, the kids do love him, they will want to see him play and will drag the parents along for the ride and hopefully after a great display and win against Leigh on Sunday, return.'"
While you are correct in what you say if you look at it you are still preaching to the ' converted ' if you have a player attending a presentation at a RL club
Yes continue doing it , get letters and make contacts with as many as you can in the area as you are competing with the Bulls,Leeds and Huddersfield for this type of ' marketing
But the point still remains is you need to somehow find a way to actively promote your club to the people who have never had / dont have any interest in RL whatsoever
The article by Matt Calland in the paper is good but he also is reffering to ' the fans rather than the people of the town /borough , he is asking for existing fans to contribute more via lottery instead of targeting new fans
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| Well I know of junior clubs in the Halifax district who have recently had Bradford and/or Leeds players at their presentation evening's, that's not right is it ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"While you are correct in what you say if you look at it you are still preaching to the ' converted ' if you have a player attending a presentation at a RL club
Yes continue doing it , get letters and make contacts with as many as you can in the area as you are competing with the Bulls,Leeds and Huddersfield for this type of ' marketing
But the point still remains is you need to somehow find a way to actively promote your club to the people who have never had / dont have any interest in RL whatsoever
The article by Matt Calland in the paper is good but he also is reffering to ' the fans rather than the people of the town /borough , he is asking for existing fans to contribute more via lottery instead of targeting new fans'"
A lot of these kids aren't yet converted as many turn up for training at local amateur clubs in Rhino's/Bulls/Saints/Giants shirts.
The more we can get the players into the junior set ups the better. The main problem we have is that with the players being mainly part time living out of the area, it turns out to be a very long day for them if they then have to get up for work the next morning.
I think the guys we have who are getting into the clubs are doing a great job. It's a million miles beyond recent years.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"For one, the RFL have apparantly taken a very dim view of Halifax ditching their academy.
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We decided to ditch our academy round about the same time as your club went bust. Which do you think will stick most in the minds of the RFL?
Our academy previously dominated their league - winning the GF two years on the trot. Plans are in place to bring this youth set up back in plenty of time. You have a bunch of prima dona's and a very poor coach. It's you who should be worried. Half way through and you've already lost six matches. That my son is appalling. Have you seen your run in? Very tough. You'll be lucky to get a place in the play offs. As for Super League - we may get the knock back and certainly if we haven't improved our attendances or our financial backing i wouldn't want to go up anyway. I won't be losing any sleep if the worst happens - our club will continue on but if you lot get another snub, you won't see SOC for dust.
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| Quote ="littlerich"We decided to ditch our academy round about the same time as your club went bust. Which do you think will stick most in the minds of the RFL?
Our academy previously dominated their league - winning the GF two years on the trot. Plans are in place to bring this youth set up back in plenty of time. You have a bunch of prima dona's and a very poor coach. It's you who should be worried. Half way through and you've already lost six matches. That my son is appalling. Have you seen your run in? Very tough. You'll be lucky to get a place in the play offs. As for Super League - we may get the knock back and certainly if we haven't improved our attendances or our financial backing i wouldn't want to go up anyway. I won't be losing any sleep if the worst happens - our club will continue on but if you lot get another snub, you won't see SOC for dust.'"
The academy situation will have no massive influence in the next round of Franchises for teams outside SL
What will be the most relevant is attendances
With Salford and Celtic not posting good crowds figures and Quins not getting anywhere I cannot see the RFL wanting any more poorly supported clubs in
They know Toulouse will be able to pull crowds quite simply because of the size of the place
That is why I feel Widnes will have the ace up the sleeve , as long as their crowds dont drop because they are crap
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| Quote ="Starbug"That is why I feel Widnes will have the ace up the sleeve , as long as their crowds dont drop because they are crap
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........and indeed, as long as they win an NRC trophy or appear in a GF. At the moment, they can't win a WI raffle. Next year they'll have to pull out all the stops otherwise i can see panic buttons being pressed and that just adds more pressure and makes things even harder. If you had to put a gun to my head i would say Widnes are the favourites to get a place but it isn't written in stone. They've got to get a golden ticket before entering the franchise factory and at the moment they are nowhere near passing that first hurdle.
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| Quote ="Starbug"They know Toulouse will be able to pull crowds quite simply because of the size of the place '"
They're getting 2,000 to 3,000 at the moment. That's it. The size of London's massive but no-one's watching RL there are they? Toulouse have to actually show they can pull in the crowds too - like Widnes can.
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| Quote ="Starbug"The academy situation will have no massive influence in the next round of Franchises for teams outside SL
What will be the most relevant is attendances
With Salford and Celtic not posting good crowds figures and Quins not getting anywhere I cannot see the RFL wanting any more poorly supported clubs in
They know Toulouse will be able to pull crowds quite simply because of the size of the place
That is why I feel Widnes will have the ace up the sleeve , as long as their crowds dont drop because they are crap
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I also think such teams as Bradford ,Leeds etc will have something to say next time round .There is quite a bit of grumbling already as every other week they have a "no show crowd" Quins ,Celts, Salford, Cats don`t fetch many at all. I know it`s up to clubs to make their own crowd but even so it makes a differance in atmosphere and everything when it is all one sided.
Regarding the kids turning up in Bulls shirts etc.Well last week I took my grandchildren along to the excelent "Learn how to do the Haka" afternoon at the Leisure Centre run by Frank Watene and it was a very enjoyable event.
There was the inevitable family of "Bulls " there resplendant in all the shirts. They took a bit of good humoured ribbing and thoroughly enjoyed the day.
But despite the parents insistance to the contrary Mike insisted the young lad took his free season ticket like all the other Fax fans present.
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| Quote ="littlerich"........and indeed, as long as they win an NRC trophy or appear in a GF. At the moment, they can't win a WI raffle. Next year they'll have to pull out all the stops otherwise i can see panic buttons being pressed and that just adds more pressure and makes things even harder. If you had to put a gun to my head i would say Widnes are the favourites to get a place but it isn't written in stone. They've got to get a golden ticket before entering the franchise factory and at the moment they are nowhere near passing that first hurdle.'"
Same problem for us but we will win the NRC this year to get ours
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