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| I suppose also that the bookies might reflect on our 10 match unbeaten run and come to the view that we won't repeat that. Other clubs (Dewsbury etc... seem to be recruiting in numbers) might appear stronger than last year and all that adds up to a lower ranking.
My only reservation in that theory is Fev. They've taken a hit on finances by not finishing 4th. They've let their squad go and still in early stages of recruitment and they are PT. Why have them the highest ranked PT club?
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| Quote ="littlerich"
My only reservation in that theory is Fev. They've taken a hit on finances by not finishing 4th. They've let their squad go and still in early stages of recruitment and they are PT. Why have them the highest ranked PT club?'"
Maybe they know who we have signed but not yet announced.
btw watch this space with Bradford, could be in trouble again next season. and wont retain their squad, already offered players massively reduced contracts due to not going up
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| Joke odds.I would say Leigh 6/4 Fax 10/1 would be about right.
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| Odds differ from Town to Town these odds could be from Corals in Leigh for all we know,Charlie himself might have given them,am I worried?Not a chance I have faith in Richard and the lads 2/9 are crazy odds without a ball being kicked I've heard Bradford are having internal problems anything can happen at Leigh,King Degsy might abdicate London are an unknown quantity, Dews could make a run, Fev I can't see owt happening there,40/1 on Fax is great value,remember Rangi isn't certain to be at Leigh, I've heard a rumour about Barlow and Riddy making the trip to Yorkshire,you never know.Charlie thinks Fax will finish 4th what say you halifaxjohn?What does our resident Jester Litlerich think?
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| Quote ="Mr Jagger"Odds differ from Town to Town these odds could be from Corals in Leigh for all we know,Charlie himself might have given them,am I worried?Not a chance I have faith in Richard and the lads 2/9 are crazy odds without a ball being kicked I've heard Bradford are having internal problems anything can happen at Leigh,King Degsy might abdicate
London are an unknown quantity, Dews could make a run, Fev I can't see owt happening there,40/1 on Fax is great value,remember Rangi isn't certain to be at Leigh, I've heard a rumour about Barlow and Riddy making the trip to Yorkshire,you never know.Charlie thinks Fax will finish 4th what say you halifaxjohn?What does our resident Jester Litlerich think?'"
What do I think Terry, three things,
1, We will finish in the top four.
2, Nothing you have said above has not been gleaned from other comments on this forum.
3, You should try and make your comments without insulting people.
(Remember I was the first you started on until I pm'd you)
Oh, another,
4, It is better to keep one's council and be thought an idiot than to post on the internet and remove all doubt..
No disrespect intended of course.
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| I think we'll finish in top four BUT I hope we have a financial plan for if we don't. £787k to £150k is a hell of a drop. Wish we could have just kept going and not have an off season because we were on fire those last three months. If we can start well then I think we will be competing for fourth/third.
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| Quote ="littlerich"I think we'll finish in top four BUT I hope we have a financial plan for if we don't. £787k to £150k is a hell of a drop. Wish we could have just kept going and not have an off season because we were on fire those last three months. If we can start well then I think we will be competing for fourth/third.'"
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| I think Leigh will be there at the top obviously, with Bradford. Not sure about Fev. Lost all their players. Signed a good one. Signed a cast off. Poor coach. I think they'll struggle.
Sheffield will start slow as usual. London? Who knows? May surprise a few this year.
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| The odds are pointless once you take Bradford and leigh out of the equation. The only real value there is on Bradford and with Lowes having another off season to inflict his coaching on the players they have it seems unlikely they will beat Leigh to top spot. The rest have been plucked out of thin air, you only have to look at Batley tipped to finish bottom to see that. For me they have recruited pretty well this year, certainly a lot better than last year, and I think they can get in the cluster that will be London, Sheffield, Dewsbury and Fev fighting for 4th place. Obviously on Fax from that I think we will finish 3rd and I think we will be closer to the top 2 than most think. The players now know the levels expected of them and now believe they are capable of hitting those levels, it took 4 months of the season for that to happen and I dont think it will take the same next season. We have a really settled squad and will benefit from the fact that Fev and Sheffield are putting together new teams.
I reckon London will improve but still wont be anywhere near good enough to make the top 3. Sheffield we just dont know and so far their signings have been less than inspiring. Fev will also have a new look team and although they will have two decent half backs this year they will be playing behind a pretty poor pack again and will have to contend with the handicap that is Jon Sharps coaching. They will have a new coach by the end of the season. Dewsbury have lost a few players as well and Im not sure they have recruited that well and I think they could struggle this year. As I said before I think the big improvers could be Batley and they could shock a few by finishing above Fev and Dewsbury.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"
I reckon London will improve but still wont be anywhere near good enough to make the top 3. Sheffield we just dont know and so far their signings have been less than inspiring. Fev will also have a new look team and although they will have two decent half backs this year they will be playing behind a pretty poor pack again and will have to contend with the handicap that is Jon Sharps coaching. They will have a new coach by the end of the season. Dewsbury have lost a few players as well and Im not sure they have recruited that well and I think they could struggle this year. As I said before I think the big improvers could be Batley and they could shock a few by finishing above Fev and Dewsbury.'"
Lol, you just make stuff up, if Batley finish above Fev and Dews they will be above Fax too. Love it when someone makes a post without knowing owt. I think Dewsbury have recruited well. Please name this poor pack Fev will have next season.
If Fax are reliant on what they have plus their signings so far they will struggle to make the top 4. It's still only October and We have recruited well so far and so have Dewsbury.
Last season Fax took advantage of a poor league and poor end of season form of Leigh who not only Fax beat in the middle eights. Next season will be different and you'll be back down to your usual 5th or 6th
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| Quote ="fevfan76"Lol, you just make stuff up, if Batley finish above Fev and Dews they will be above Fax too. Love it when someone makes a post without knowing owt. I think Dewsbury have recruited well. Please name this poor pack Fev will have next season.
If Fax are reliant on what they have plus their signings so far they will struggle to make the top 4. It's still only October and We have recruited well so far and so have Dewsbury.
Last season Fax took advantage of a poor league and poor end of season form of Leigh who not only Fax beat in the middle eights. Next season will be different and you'll be back down to your usual 5th or 6th
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I agree that Dewsbury have recruited well and I think London will ok ,Fev don't worry me their time has been and gone a shame really Bradford have been reported as having problems so I think we could challenge for top spot it seems Rangi may not be going to Leigh and they could have other problems making Fax the team to have a flutter on.
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| What planet is FevFan on??? We can only go on the current facts. Currently you've cleared out your quality players. Currently you haven't signed enough quality replacements. Currently you're scheduled to receive £300k less than you did last year.
What other conclusions than the ones on here are we supposed to come up with?
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| Have I missed who Dewsbury have signed? Im not classing Sykes or Reynolds as improvements to their team and the others seem to be run of the mill, who have I missed?
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| Quote ="littlerich"What planet is FevFan on??? We can only go on the current facts. Currently you've cleared out your quality players. Currently you haven't signed enough quality replacements. Currently you're scheduled to receive £300k less than you did last year.
What other conclusions than the ones on here are we supposed to come up with?
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Then you should wait a bit before making silly statements about how teams will look next season Ya talking rubbish, we let 16 players go. Some of which had never played for us. It's only October. Fev can't announce signing yet as players still under contract with their current team and your saying Fev will have a poor pack next season. Well if your taking about this moment in time then yeah we probably do have a poor pack because we only have about 3 forwards. But some of us know who's coming in and they are quality. Added to the 10 or so quality players we already signed we will have a far better team than last season. Fax will have to improve some more on last year. You signed Gaz Moore ffs lol
As for having 300k less you should stop and think about what your saying because your making yourself look dim. Or is it impossible for a team with less cash to go on a 10 game unbeaten run and come 6th in the middle eights?
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| No objection to Fev's odds - they always have been, and always will be, a threat. However, Fax's odds are ridiculous.
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| Quote ="fevfan76"Then you should wait a bit before making silly statements about how teams will look next season Ya talking rubbish, we let 16 players go. Some of which had never played for us. It's only October. Fev can't announce signing yet as players still under contract with their current team and your saying Fev will have a poor pack next season. Well if your taking about this moment in time then yeah we probably do have a poor pack because we only have about 3 forwards. But some of us know who's coming in and they are quality. Added to the 10 or so quality players we already signed we will have a far better team than last season. Fax will have to improve some more on last year. You signed Gaz Moore ffs lol
As for having 300k less you should stop and think about what your saying because your making yourself look dim. Or is it impossible for a team with less cash to go on a 10 game unbeaten run and come 6th in the middle eights?'"
Good post.
Bring on 2016
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| 40-1 seem very good odds to me.
As a Leyther, I will be having some of that.
Fax played some great stuff towards the end of the season, and changed their style by offloading in the tackle at every opportunity. A strong candidate for 3rd in my opinion, hence I will have a dollop on them E/W.
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| Quote ="fevfan76"Then you should wait a bit before making silly statements about how teams will look next season Ya talking rubbish, we let 16 players go. Some of which had never played for us. It's only October. Fev can't announce signing yet as players still under contract with their current team and your saying Fev will have a poor pack next season. Well if your taking about this moment in time then yeah we probably do have a poor pack because we only have about 3 forwards. But some of us know who's coming in and they are quality. Added to the 10 or so quality players we already signed we will have a far better team than last season. Fax will have to improve some more on last year. You signed Gaz Moore ffs lol
As for having 300k less you should stop and think about what your saying because your making yourself look dim. Or is it impossible for a team with less cash to go on a 10 game unbeaten run and come 6th in the middle eights?'"
At this point you can just about announce who you like after all Gaz Moore is probably still a contracted Fev player for a few more days. If you are going to accuse someone of looking dim is probably best not to make a post that makes your self look even more so. Shall I tell you why Fev are not announcing any players and it is the same reason that Sheffield are not announcing a load of players................... If quality was that readily available Fev would not be raiding the piggy bank to try and get teams to part with their players, anyway how did that work out when when Campbell tried to get Batley to part with Rowe with a wad of cash?
Unless that is Im wrong and you really do know who is coming in but then again its a Fax forum and you could name names without anyone from Fev noticing but you dont know any names do you?
Ps. BTW who do you think your new coach will be once you get rid of Sharp mid season?
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| FevFan is obviously full of bluster.
Mind you, a previous post is correct, write Fev off at your peril. But right now they look shipwrecked and that's all I can go on, ignoring Kim Jong FevFan's propaganda obviously.
It's early doors.
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| Quote ="Snowy"40-1 seem very good odds to me.
As a Leyther, I will be having some of that.
Fax played some great stuff towards the end of the season, and changed their style by offloading in the tackle at every opportunity. A strong candidate for 3rd in my opinion, hence I will have a dollop on them E/W.'"
Where are these odds available, online? Also can you get E/W or is it just to finish top?
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Where are these odds available, online? Also can you get E/W or is it just to finish top?'"
Good Morning Pete,I'm a regular at betting though mostly on the Horses, but in Horse racing if the favourite is odds on as Leigh are in this case ,you can't back each way,I'm not sure about Rugby but would think the rules would be the same,alternately at most Bookies the would remove the favourite from the betting and you would bet without Leigh ,but the odds would be much smaller.
Or as I have done you can wind up Mr Jagger ,and he has offered me 100 pound at even money that Leigh don't finish higher than Fax in the Leigh they say Charlie knows FA ,but in this case he knows this bet is a good thing, thank you Mr Jagger. .
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| Cheers Frank/Ian. I see Fax have come into 33/1 still barmy but still worth a nibble I think. Up The Fax
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| It's just on Sky Bet as far as I know, with no e/w available. 40-1 for Fax is a good value bet given what we know. Being logical (which you should be if you're having a bet) then it's whether, on average, your bet would come in or not. On balance, with what we know, would Fax come out on top just once in 40 attempts? Who knows, but if you think "yes" then 40-1 is a good value bet!
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| Looking at these - there's only value at E/W for me and even then I'd want 1/2/3. Alas as Leigh are so short, we won't get that.
As the season draws closer, you'll find a market offering e/w on the first two places which means someone finishing above Leigh or Bradford to win, which is tough ask.
At this stage, I reckon Betway have it priced right, Leigh 1/3, bulls 4's and us at 25/1 Fev 28/1
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