Dream on .........

We clearly need a high class ball handler / line breaker such as AOB. Until we do we will be also-rans at best sadly.

Woody at half back, worth a try ?

Norman.Could be a good idea and worth a try in the Friendlies if no other signing.

I’d go with that. Would also be tempted to give him goal kicking duties too

well that's Ridyard confirmed by Fev. one of the signings of the season for me that

Jordan Walde signS for HKR.

Sadly we are probably not going to get anybody released by a SL Club unless we are one of their last options, with the player pool still relatively small the perceived better players are going to be picked up by SL clubs or the high rollers in the championship. Not the end of the world as we on,y need players that want to play for us, not ones desperately looking for any port in a storm.

Lets hope that we have been made some big promises by Cas because you take Worrincy, Boyle, and Mitch out of the team and if certainly weakens us.

Castleford have dual registrated with Fax for the benefit of Castleford and Castleford only. Anyone who thinks otherwise is truly deluded.

Come on guys get your glasses half full. You might soon forget about Mitch when Harry Kid gets on the field. Boyle most people will have forgotten by the time this thread gets to page 4 , and Rob was fun to watch but everyone knows his downside.

Bring in Trueman , Gary Lo ,retain Bradon Douglas and we are already in positive territory , with a budget that doesn't go pop.

On the other hand Fax, by having the dual reg in place will use the loan deals for the benefit of Fax, anyone who thinks otherwise is entitled to their opinion.

It's a different game these days than what it was x number of years ago and I have struggled to come to terms with it when it comes to DR / Loans.

However the days of clubs, especially at our level having all the players pulling on their shirts signed up for the club are sadly over and I can only see more of the same in the foreseeable future.
When trying to survive and compete to do otherwise when all your rivals are either using DR and or lone deals will only lead to a sad end.

For me the choice is accept the game for what it is now or stop watching it as there is no point in living in the past.
At the moment I still think Fax are an independent club and as much Fax as they can be and my love of the club will have me turning up.

A loan deal is totally different to a DR deal.
How on earth can you call Fax independent when another club has a say in what players RM choses on a match day?

Im not sure RM would have agreed to the deal if that were the case as it certainly wasn't that way last season.

Wrong. Toulouse away?

Because another club does not have any say in whom RM chooses on match day.
Do you seriously think any club or coach would enter into an agreement where they were forced into doing anything?
Would you allow someone else to dictate what you had to do, no, so why would anyone else.
It’s one thing to oppose DR but to keep saying DR means control passes to the other club is a complete fallacy.

RM picks the team based on his opinion of who will do the job on match day and the clubs directors make their own decisions, both with the interests of Fax in mind.

Wrong. RM picked him and IW withdrew him at the last minute which as RM said he would have done in that situation and which a season long loan deal would have prevented, incidentally Fax won that game.

So Ian Watson had a say on Fax's team then. We won without DR!

Wrong. Ian Watson had a say on the squad only because
RM picked him for the squad not because IW said he had to be included, he might not have even played.

Exactly We won without DR showing RM picked the team to do the job and with or without it.
He will do the same this year but learning from the experience DR will be replaced by loan players if he can get the right deals done.

Why does DR have to be brought into thread after thread after thread, talk about obssession.
Keep beating yourself up over DR it won’t change a thing.

Why would Championship clubs pay for a SL player to get some valuable game time (for the player) with them? Sorry, but if any Championship clubs are actually paying for the privilege of providing a training ground for SL club players then they're bonkers. The SL clubs should be paying the Championship club for providing the means for their player to develop.

If what you suggest is true (that the Championship clubs need to pay for DR players (if only their wages), then the whole 2nd tier is missing a trick and needs to join forces to work out a fair and equitable deal. The benefit to the SL team is far greater than the temporary (and often lacklustre performance) that the arrangement provides, and the financial rewards should reflect this!!!

Looking at the Operational Rules it does appear that things have changed and the 'junior' partner does now pay for the privilege (at a rate agreed between the 2 clubs involved?) which is then included in their cap spend. When first introduced players were given a notional cap value (based on salary bands) which was added to the 'junior' club's cap spend. Clearly the SL clubs were losing out on these DR deals..........

Ah well, all the more reason for the "recipient" club to make sure they only take DR players that they really need. I've had a look at the operational rules, which states that the "home" club for the DR player remains responsible for paying the player, but that they can invoice the recipient club to recover costs to an "agreed value". I guess that the default may be to pay the DR players wages and travel expenses, but still down to individual negotiation.

Absolute madness. So we have to pay super league clubs because they can’t afford reserve teams. Crazy.

And what if a cas player plays for our reserves? Will we still be expected to pay?

The sooner the clowns ruining our sport and bending over backwards with their super league goggles on are gone the better. Time is running out though I fear

As fw says total madness as soon as the Championship Clubs get their act together and end this nonsense the sooner the better but I'm not holding my breath, RFL unfit for purpose

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