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| Is it 200k for all clubs below second or will we lose more funding if Doncaster
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| 3RD/4TH Place £200k
5TH/6TH Place £175k
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| cheers Mick,from a funding angle Doncaster catching us is not significant.
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| Thanks Bentleyman but do you have a figure for 9th place and the promoted team?
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| What we all need to remember is where ever our teams finish ( you can still get second) it is more money than we would of got under the old system so in effect everyone's a winner unless your in the bottom 5 Next year spend it wisely clear the bills and start again the 3 full time teams will be pushing for the top Bradford London and Leigh then it's up to the rest of us to get 4th for the middle 8 although I don't know what the prise money is next year One thing I know is part time will find it hard to beat the 3 full time teams but the chance is there I hope if my team do finish second we use the money correctly and don't pay over the odds for players
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| Quote ="jtfev"What we all need to remember is where ever our teams finish ( you can still get second) it is more money than we would of got under the old system so in effect everyone's a winner unless your in the bottom 5 Next year spend it wisely clear the bills and start again the 3 full time teams will be pushing for the top Bradford London and Leigh then it's up to the rest of us to get 4th for the middle 8 although I don't know what the prise money is next year One thing I know is part time will find it hard to beat the 3 full time teams but the chance is there I hope if my team do finish second we use the money correctly and don't pay over the odds for players'"
True but the gap between 1st/2nd and 3/4 is too big imo and not just because of yesterday I would say the same if Fax were going to get that 2nd spot, it should be £500k, £450K, £400k and so on in £50K amounts less.
Remember how much London and Bradford will get next year!
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| Without big investment next season it will be slaughter in SL2 for some clubs. Glad we are going down lol
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"True but the gap between 1st/2nd and 3/4 is too big imo and not just because of yesterday I would say the same if Fax were going to get that 2nd spot, it should be £500k, £450K, £400k and so on in £50K amounts less.
Remember how much London and Bradford will get next year!'"
Exactly. The idea was that the RFL would part fund two teams to compete in this middle eight.
There wouldn't be enough money to do as you say. More likely, it'd be 1st £300k, £250k, £200k and so on. And then Leigh would be £½m behind on funding. Which makes the whole twelves and eights thing even more untenable.
I think we need to give twelves and eights a go, just to stop folk banging on about what a great idea twelves and eights would be if only we'd had the guts to do it. But it suffers from the same problem as traditional p+r - we haven't got enough cash to fund an under-competition of clubs to a level where they can seamlessly progress to $uperleague.
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| Just out of interest, what was the prize money last year?
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| While the extra cash will close the gap for this years top 2 ,it will also open up a different gap between the top 3/4 and tge rest, potentially making the bulk of the regular season predictable
In 2016 only the top 2 from 2015 will have the cash to go full time and therefore compete in the middle 8
Ultimatly clubs need to work harder to improve their own income streams, that simple fact has not changed
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Just out of interest, what was the prize money last year?'"
These figures are not actually prize money though. They are next seasons funding from the RFL which this season was something like 70 or 80k.
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| Sorry but I fail to see the difference. It is still dosh available to the club.Explain.
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| It's not 'prize money'. Simply, RFL funding has increased and the amount you get is based on your position the previous season.
The money you get for winning the GF is prize money. When I say you I don't mean 'you' I mean the team that wins the GF, which won't be you.
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| what do the grand final winners and runner up get in prize money
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| Quote ="n empsall"what do the grand final winners and runner up get in prize money'"
Winners of the Grand final £40,000.00 runners up £20,000.00
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| Quote ="Starbug"While the extra cash will close the gap for this years top 2 ,it will also open up a different gap between the top 3/4 and tge rest, potentially making the bulk of the regular season predictable
In 2016 only the top 2 from 2015 will have the cash to go full time and therefore compete in the middle 8
Ultimatly clubs need to work harder to improve their own income streams, that simple fact has not changed'"
It seems I am mistaken on this one, on the Leigh board Andy Mazey ( club director ) has posted that in 2016 the middle 8 losers ( positions 5,6,7,8 ) get the 2015 funding of Bradford and London ( £780,000 ) for 5th and 6th with 7th getting Leighs and 8 th whatever this years 2 nd Championship finishers get
Which makes next years 3rd and 4th positions vital, again the ability of clubs to increase their own income is still vital
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| Quote ="Faxlore"Winners of the Grand final £40,000.00 runners up £20,000.00'"
Cheers, kind of deflates the occasion for me getting so much less than finishing in the top two. It's like the old premiership system where top of the league were crowned champions, with the play offs just being another cup to play for. It didn't really mean anything.
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| Quote ="n empsall"Cheers, =#0000FFkind of deflates the occasion for me getting so much less than finishing in the top two. It's like the old premiership system where top of the league were crowned champions, with the play offs just being another cup to play for. It didn't really mean anything.'"
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| The important thing this year is to finish either 1st or 2nd. Winning the grand final really isn't that important compared to that. Given the choice would you rather finish 2nd and be rewarded with £450,000 and be in with a good chance of a top four place next year, or finish 3rd but win the grand final and get £40,000 and have all but no chance of a top four place next year.
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| Personally if we cant finish top then I would want to see us in the grand final. On the other hand i do understand what that extra money could do for the club although from what MS has been saying the club budgeted for 3rd so if thats the case their should not be a problem should they?
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Sorry but I fail to see the difference. It is still dosh available to the club.Explain.'"
The point is, it's not worth spending a lot of money this year to earn extra money for next year. If you do that, you'll use next year's money to pay for this year and have no money left for next year.
Personally, I think one or two clubs have failed to see the difference too.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Personally if we cant finish top then I would want to see us in the grand final. On the other hand i do understand what that extra money could do for the club although from what MS has been saying the club budgeted for 3rd so if thats the case their should not be a problem should they?'"
Don't expect a problem financially. The BOD do seem to run the club very well that way, however if we do miss out on second place does that mean we can only budget for finishing 5th or 6th next year? As we probably won't have the money needed to compete for higher. That's why I think finishing in the top two is far more important than winning the grand final, and kind of dilutes the occasion.
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| Quote ="n empsall" That's why I think finishing in the top two is far more important than winning the grand final, and kind of dilutes the occasion.'"
Exactly my thoughts when I heard the distribution was going to be on league positions.
I expect there was a big lobby from folk who choke on the big occasion.
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| Quote ="griff1998"The point is, it's not worth spending a lot of money this year to earn extra money for next year. If you do that, you'll use next year's money to pay for this year and have no money left for next year.
Personally, I think one or two clubs have failed to see the difference too.'"
Which two clubs are they?
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